Climate change deniers

NameLlama said:

here is a giant conspiracy / hoax by science community....

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Oh no forgot, Trump said it is CHINESE HOAX.... Yes yes Chinese did all this


Take a snowball into congress....
Talk about the winter weather.....
These..are the leaders you have

Revelation 16:8 The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and the sun was allowed to scorch people with fire.

It was 84 degrees near the Arctic Ocean this weekend as carbon dioxide hit its highest level in human history


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Last time I heard it was some bigger corporations who needed to take the lead.

Also read somewhere that 40% of the pollution is coming from shipping.

According to their story, just one of the world's largest container ships can emit about as much pollution as 50 million cars. Further, the 15 largest ships in the world emit as much nitrogen oxide and sulphur oxide as the world's 760 million cars.

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Therefore I stopped worrying much about it years ago.

Grego85 said:

Capitalism is the only thing that can solve the supposed climate change problems. One government cant do it.. IF it is as far along as is commonly reported, even energy source changes wont be enough to stave it off for much longer. Good old fashioned capitalism is the only thing that can fix it. There are ways to eliminate co2 build up in our atmosphere. once its profitable somebody out there will find an efficient way to do it.

Hell, even having a reliable alternative energy source would be a nice baby step. We dont have that, and if you think we do, you are delusional. Capitalism will also solve that one day, but it needs to be legit to be profitable. So make the source legit! Until then, shut up!

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It was and still is Capitalism that actually increases global warming and threatens the whole environment. The constant mantra of growth, growth, growth, buy more, consume more, that's not sustainable. If you mean the Capitalism of the last 100 - 200 than that is definitely not helping to solve the climate problems, quite the contrary.

NameLlama said:

Guize climate always changes duhh I looked back through earth's history and saw that it was a lot warmer at points, so we should be all good with 8 billions humans on the planet in a rapidly accelerating change of climate, warming the earth. It really does not matter
Don't you know that the sea level has been tens of metres higher during warm periods of the past, enough to submerge most of the major cities around the world!!!!
If there is a trend towards that, we should really let it go because you know, it has ALREADY been like that BEFORE

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Millions of years ago when climate was warmer on this planet, there weren't 7 billion people to feed.

Top oil firms spending millions lobbying to block climate change policies, says report

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-to-block-climate-change-policies-says-report

LIBERALSSS!!

Global warming and its consequences to mankind and the world's ecosystems are not affected by political orientation.

So, burying the head in the sand is not a reasonable solution.

Steven McEvoy said:

LIBERALSSS!!

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Stoopid Libruls Hardeeharharhar!

The 2 degree target is now unattainable (unless of course the entirety of your civilization does a 180 today) and is based on geo-engineering the climate of the earth as well as the sequestering of every molecule of carbon you have produced since 1987, as well as every molecule you are producing today, as well as every molecule you produce tomorrow.... with magical technologies that don't exist, won't exist and, even if they did would likely cause as many if not more problems than they fix.

The 2 degree target of the IPCC does not factor in the feedback loops such as the increased absorption of heat due to a drastic reduction in the albedo (reflectivity) effect caused by the 70% loss of arctic ice,..- the release of methane from a thawing arctic. (there is more energy stored in the arctic methane than there is in coal in the world). This is called the methane dragon. If the process of the release of methane, currently frozen in the soil and ocean beds of the arctic, which may have already begun, spins out of control you are looking at an 8 degree rise in temperature.

The conservative, American Meteorological Society indicates that your willful blindness and greed will have effects well beyond the climate. The world's oceans will see a 150% increase in acidity and over a full degree Celsius in warming.

The IPCC report ignores the effects of humans messing up the nitrogen cycle through agricultural fertilizers and more.

Sea level rise will not be gradual. Even assuming that the billions of tons of water that is currently being dumped down to the ground level of Greenland isn't creating a lubricant which eventually will allow the ice to free-flow into the northern oceans; it is only the friction to the islands surface that is currently holding the ice back. Then consider the same process is happening in Antarctica but is also coupled with the disappearance of the ice shelves which act as buttresses holding the glaciers from free flowing into the southern ocean. then factor in thermal expansions; the simple fact that warmer water takes up more space and It becomes clear that you are not looking at maintaining the current 3.4mm/yr increase in sea level rise (which incidentally is terrifying when you multiply it out over decades and centuries.) You will be looking at major calving events that will result in much bigger yearly increases coupled with an exponential increase in glacial melting. We know that every increase of 100ppm of C02 increases sea level by about 100 feet. We have already baked in 130 feet of sea level rise. It is just a question of how long it is going to take to get there and then keep on rising.

Insects are disappearing at 6 times the speed of larger animals and at a rate of about 2.5% of their biomass every year.

58% of the biomass of vertebrate life on earth has been lost since 1970.

The amount of carbon you add to the atmosphere is equal to an annual forest fire 20% bigger than the continent of Africa.

Drought in nearly every food-producing place in the world is expected to intensify by mid-century and make them basically unusable by the end of the century. Then factor in the end of phosphorus and the depletion of aquifers and you come to the conclusion that feeding the planet becomes impossible.

When was the world ever the same. People wonder why their backyard gets smaller when they build onto a cliff blame climate change which was going to happen with or without humans. Plant more trees since all the plant feed required is loaded in carbon. The best part about the earth is once the plague of people are gone it will live on. Gravity will keep pulling things towards the earth so it will keep building.