Shout-Out To Bob Hawkes

Internet.Domains · May 21, 2019

Please give a shout-out to our very own @Bob Hawkes!

It was recently uncovered that Bob was feeling a little less motivated, and possibly retiring from Namepros, after some recent bullying. This saddened me as Bob has been a wonderful contributor and a valuable asset to this community. I may not agree with everything he writes, but I respect and admire his contributions. He is passionate and good natured. He is always respectful and the bullying he has recently endured is completely uncalled for.

Please give @Bob Hawkes a shout-out in the comments or Like/Thanks this post to let him know there are those who care!

(The best defense against bullies is letting those who bully know we stand with those who are bullied)

Name Trader · May 22, 2019

MackieMesser said:
Bullying is a method of weak persons that have personal problems (often a low self-esteem) and try to make others feel bad instead of solving their own problems.

I don't think that description fits those accused of bullying here

MackieMesser · May 22, 2019

stub said:
I don't think that description fits those accused of bullying here

I don't know the cases here, but that's a (or my) general assumption of people who bully others.

Chris Hydrick · May 22, 2019

dande said:
^^You guys should keep it short please. We are tired of lengthy posts. Learn how to summarize!

Grilled said:
Speaking of lengthy,
Your post was 422 words.
Bob's was 375 words.

I know it's not a word measuring competition.

My post 685 words.

If it was a word measuring competition. Mine would be bigger.

But...

Grilled said:
the size of a post isn't a dependent variable equating to quality.

Are you saying I'm over overcompensating?

efizi · May 22, 2019

@Bob Hawkes Your presence in the community is invaluable as many have testified. We cannot afford to lose you just because someone lacks etiquette on this great forum.

BrandEntrance.com · May 22, 2019

Avijit Roy said:
As a new community member i learnt a lot from @Bob Hawkes . Thanks a lot.

Same for me. I always read his posts when I see them.

Domainuu · May 22, 2019

@Bob Hawkes He is really humble and polite personality, that makes huge difference between average people and legend.
Come to India @Bob Hawkes i will buy Beer for You.

BaileyUK · May 22, 2019

GUILTY as charged.

First of all let me say how nice it is to read all the positive remarks made to Bob. Secondly I wish to apologize to Bob, I should have realized he's quite a sensitive soul and that I should have taken that into consideration.

In my defense I will add that he chose to open-up a private/direct message with me when things got a little bit close to the bone in a certain thread, I don't think that was a good move, sure he was asking me to correct a certain error in my comments, I thought it best not to get in to a private discussion with Bob while the public discussion was still heated. I then received the request again about 20 minutes later.

There is no doubt I was calling A-spade-A-spade, as I saw it in this DM exchange. No swearing or anything like that but, I did question (and dispute) his contribution to the thread also. Whilst I can understand using the DM service when in a convivial conversation . Not the smartest move when things are not convivial.

So once again I apologize to Bob, he did himself (as always) conduct himself most politely But, I should have continued to ignore the requests, my mistake.

As for the Mod deleted postings made by myself, xynames, and hawkeye in this particular thread. I still think they were justified. But thankfully a recent posting has cleared up some of the misunderstanding of direction of NamePros .
I refer to the recent posting by Namepros CMO

"Who wouldn't want want to own a dot Ninja domain" That posting brought a smile to my face and showed me why, and perhaps a few others had been on the wrong track and tact.in calling out a certain other Ntld advocate

xynames · May 22, 2019

I just can’t see myself ever direct messaging someone asking him to remove a post in which all he did was state that I was wrong. Let alone doing it twice after getting no response.

handpicked · May 22, 2019

For me, Bob's skillfully crafted words ooze wisdom and levelheadedness. Not only did I admire his contour and comradeship at NP but also an ardent fan of his dynamic personality. Experienced and wise... yet, child like inquisitiveness. I don't know the issues, but, kindly forgive all and comeback unhurt. I am learning a lot from you Sir, particularly me coming from an non-English speaking background. I liked your status post indicated as 'semi-retired'. Be that way. Don't ever retire. A little shout-out.

Mister Funsky · May 22, 2019

Internet.Domains said:
Please give a shout-out to our very own @Bob Hawkes!

Bob, this forum needs input from anyone and everyone willing to contribute in a thoughtful manner which is what you have always done. You are enthusiastic about domaining and it is clear the vast majority of lurkers and posters want you to stay.

Bob Hawkes · May 22, 2019

First thank you for your apology @BaileyUK. I also wanted to thank @xynames for his generous comments earlier in the thread, and in particular say again I totally respect the right of anyone to their opinion on any matter as long as things are said in a factually accurate and respectful manner. Please people, do not try to suppress any views on any side of an issue as long as they pass that test.

While I do not think it is wise to comment on many good points raised on all sides, I do feel compelled to comment on the issue of the DM I sent to Bailey. It is true that I did send a DM a few minutes after a post he made but in it I made clear I totally respected his right to post his opinions. The title of the thread was "While Still Time to Edit...." and I simply was privately pointing out that he had, through reposting and commenting, repeated something untrue (that I had not publicly reported sales details). Since it had been corrected in that very thread. I wanted to discretely give him the opportunity to edit his post so it was factually correct because I suspected he thought what he said was true but it was not. I did this as DM because the thread was already confrontational (when I had corrected the person who first made the inaccurate statement) and I hoped with a polite DM we could achieve what I wanted (stop the further spread of incorrect information about me).

It is true the DM continued as he first asked for details. I provided the post number and link that included 2 of my posts from the Report Completed Domain Name Sales Here thread from the last 10 months, one from 2019, that gave the name, price, date, sales venue, net proceeds, and sales process. It then continued back and forth. I apologize for that as it was already very late at night in UK.

I would be delighted to share or have NPs share the complete unabridged DM exchange that night so others can decide for themselves the nature of the exchange if I have @BaileyUK permission to do so. Please let me know as obviously it is not proper to share any DM without permission of both parties. I give my permission for a posting of the unabridged total DM that night. Please let me know if I have your permission to post what we both said.

Bob

Bob Hawkes · May 22, 2019

xynames said:
I just can’t see myself ever direct messaging someone asking him to remove a post in which all he did was state that I was wrong. Let alone doing it twice after getting no response.

I think a danger all of us (me included!) sometimes assume things without knowing if they are true or not. I think we should be cautious, please all of us. It just leads to misinformation and unfair hurt.

In this particular case with respect to your statements here is the truth:

I did not ask him to remove the post (simply asked him to correct an untrue statement of fact within it if he had made it without knowing it was untrue)
I did not ask twice with no response. He responded quickly asking for evidence, I provided the link with the evidence, etc. It was strictly a one by one message scenario (if he gives me permission to share the unabridged you will clearly see that).
"in which all he did was state that I was wrong" I was not questioning an opinion he expressed, I simply requested that he remove the statement that I had no reported sales, since it was factually untrue.

I think if we could learn from this there is something we all must do better.

Bob

Jv1999 · May 22, 2019

nah, all Bobbehh needs is a huge 4-5 fig sail and ppl will not dis him anymore and his words will b gold

cuz that's sersiously the only thing ppl care about on NP, the sails. You can write a storm, quote stats to the moon... but everyone will clamor to the guy who always posted one-word posts and had 0 likes but finally sold a domain for over the value of a house. Then suddenly everyone thinks his posts are like the Rosetta Stone

mr-x · May 22, 2019

If Namepros has a great guy award, it should be Bob.

Best to you @Bob Hawkes. You're a good example for all.

karmaco · May 22, 2019

Jv1999 said:
nah, all Bobbehh needs is a huge 4-5 fig sail and ppl will not dis him anymore and his words will b gold

cuz that's sersiously the only thing ppl care about on NP, the sails. You can write a storm, quote stats to the moon... but everyone will clamor to the guy who always posted one-word posts and had 0 likes but finally sold a domain for over the value of a house. Then suddenly everyone thinks his posts are like the Rosetta Stone

I don’t think that is entirely true. I get the same amount of likes whether I post a $500 sale or a $5K sale. This place is supportive like that

FavourB · May 22, 2019

OH yeah he has impacted me too, and I want to use this meduim to say a BIG Thank You @Bob Hawkes ..
It was your post I first met in namepros and I must confess I was encouraged..
Without wasting time I followed you on Twitter and up till date my Twitter is set to show me your post I missed when am offline.. That's how much you impacted me in this industry..

You Haters are my haters BOB and I love what you do here.
Keep the fire burning Bob

Jay Ha · May 22, 2019

Although I never interacted with him irl, I can already imagine him as a good person on and off the internet.

Jv1999 · May 22, 2019

karmaco said:
I don’t think that is entirely true. I get the same amount of likes whether I post a $500 sale or a $5K sale. This place is supportive like that

lol me too. the point is the sail, not so much the price. But from his level of lengthy posts, he needs a more than xxx sail to gain the "respect" of "the people"

xynames · May 22, 2019

Bob has our respect. But I agree, until all his theories are demonstrated by actual big sales, his theories will remain just that...theories.

Jv1999 · May 22, 2019

xynames said:
Bob has our respect. But I agree, until all his theories are demonstrated by actual big sales, his theories will remain just that...theories.

Ur one of da bullies, u kno that right?

xynames · May 22, 2019

Is it better to be loved, or be right? Obviously Bob is loved.

If I decided to leave NP I doubt anyone would even care, certainly there would be no long thread gushing with sentimentality for me.

NameLlama · May 22, 2019

jk luv u

Jv1999 · May 22, 2019

xynames said:
Is it better to be loved, or be right? Obviously Bob is loved.

If I decided to leave NP I doubt anyone would even care, certainly there would be no long thread gushing with sentimentality for me.

I would care because your pov is insightful at times. And you make lots of valuable contributions that no one else can contribute. We'd lose knowledge and experience if u left

xynames · May 22, 2019

Maybe it would be fun to pretend to leave then.

Like sticking around at your own funeral to see what people will say about you.

Anyway, back to business. Good luck to all!

HotKey · May 22, 2019

xynames said:
Is it better to be loved, or be right? Obviously Bob is loved.

If I decided to leave NP I doubt anyone would even care, certainly there would be no long thread gushing with sentimentality for me.

Nope XYZ- , I would care, I find your posts, and actually a few others here, refreshingly blunt and generally bang-on. Just because we don't agree with a post, doesn't mean we can't respect it, and the person it's coming from.

I think it's totally ok to adjust our posting style towards the person we're posting to.. otherwise sometimes it can feel like we're all a product on an assembly line. We're not, we're all individuals. But adjusting ours posts to the individual, well that's a different art altogether. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. Its recognizing them that really defines us.

**

WB Bob- wow does Jag work fast!..

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