Undeveloped.com Experience

so i was thinking today.. cause there are unpaid buyers here as we all know..

did any of you guys consider basically telling buyer in the negotiation window if he agrees to a price, that you will setup a bin price on the domain at your agreed price.. and tell him to go click buynow.. which would force them to pay instantly basically..

do any of you do this? do you think its a good way to get less unpaid buyers?

or thoughts from @Undeveloped

alcy said:

so i was thinking today.. cause there are unpaid buyers here as we all know..

did any of you guys consider basically telling buyer in the negotiation window if he agrees to a price, that you will setup a bin price on the domain at your agreed price.. and tell him to go click buynow.. which would force them to pay instantly basically..

do any of you do this? do you think its a good way to get less unpaid buyers?

or thoughts from @Undeveloped

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That's my own way doing it. It reduces unpaid buyers for me. I have mentioned it here before.

alcy said:

so i was thinking today.. cause there are unpaid buyers here as we all know..

did any of you guys consider basically telling buyer in the negotiation window if he agrees to a price, that you will setup a bin price on the domain at your agreed price.. and tell him to go click buynow.. which would force them to pay instantly basically..

do any of you do this? do you think its a good way to get less unpaid buyers?

or thoughts from @Undeveloped

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it could not work if the payment is made by wire, ACH, check...
But, I see that, when I setup a BIN price, every payments seems made instantly for cheap domains.

@Undeveloped

i was adding new lead a moment ago and got error msg...
but I thnk email got sent.. and it can be seen in the lead archive.

plz have loook at it
ty

I tried Undeveloped.com for more than six months. 63 domains, thousands of impressions, zero leads. I'm now moving all of my domains elsewhere. I had zero success with this service, which is a shame because I like the way they do things (installment options, etc.).

alcy said:

@Undeveloped

i was adding new lead a moment ago and got error msg...
but I thnk email got sent.. and it can be seen in the lead archive.

plz have loook at it
ty

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@Undeveloped
I literally noticed few mins ago that this domain I sent as "buynow" lead... is not taken off market and listed as pending sale.. is this standard procedure for importing leads? that things are taken off market? if so then it shouldn't be so. can you fix it? I still want my name to be avaikble on market.. as importing leads is no guarantee of sale.

I would appreciate if you can change it asap. unless this whole thing is related to the error I listed above. if so thne plz fix also.

thanks!

@alcy,

It would help if you would provide the domain involved and notify us through support. As you might know, this forum is not the allocated place to submit inquiries especially when it is urgent. For future purposes, I would like to ask you to reach out to our support in order to get it solved promptly.

Regarding your inquiry, is the problem that the domain is taken off the market or that it isn't taken off the market? It is not becoming clear to me as your post includes both.

When importing leads the domain remains available for sale. When importing transactions and the buyer confirms his/her interest to purchase it the domain is held off the market as an agreement is reached.

Best regards,

alcy said:

@Undeveloped
I literally noticed few mins ago that this domain I sent as "buynow" lead... is not taken off market and listed as pending sale.. is this standard procedure for importing leads? that things are taken off market? if so then it shouldn't be so. can you fix it? I still want my name to be avaikble on market.. as importing leads is no guarantee of sale.

I would appreciate if you can change it asap. unless this whole thing is related to the error I listed above. if so thne plz fix also.

thanks!

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thanks, first I stated there was an error message when I added lead.

then I stated that when I added the lead, the domain went off market, cause its sale lander said so.

and it is not because he bought it, cause i never got a purchase notification or sale email. unless for lead imports those sale emails work diferent too.

so I will conclude the fact it was taken off market is related to the error msg somehow.

I think its all part of public knowledge to be aware of how import leads work, so I decided to post it here.. but if you say this needs more investigation then I'll email you the name now

thanks!

@alcy

Just made sure to check this for you and the conclusion that it was related to the error message received is wrong.

As stated in my previous message there is a clear distinction between importing a lead or importing a transaction. In this case, you have imported a transaction with a BIN. The buyer receives an email asking to confirm their interest and agreeing with the transaction. Since your buyer clicked in the confirmation link the transaction is moved in a so-called "agreement reached" stage and the buyer is granted a payment link. The domain is marked as sold as your imported buyer confirmed purchasing the domain.

You can always post anything you ought important to make public. However, in this case, mention is made by you which makes it look like the lead importer is broken while in fact, everything is working as expected. You only selected the wrong importer value for your customer which should have been lead instead of a transaction. If you would have submitted this through our support we could have cleared it up instantly.

Have a great day!

Not sure if it's been explained here already.....but I can't seem to figure out how to get the custom Background/picture images on my undeveloped landers...mine is just all basic White background....how do you change it to show related images ?

Thanks

So, I've had many hundreds of domains listed on U for a couple of years now and today I tried to add 25 or so I had missed/skipped in the past and only about 2/3 made it.

Most of the ones that didn't get imported said 'ignored' and a few others said 'failed' and when the question mark is hovered it says "you are not allowed to update this domain". The name is not in my portfolio so of course I can not update it.

I assume some of them may erroneously be listed in someone else's account...can anyone shed light on this for me?

Mister Funsky said:

I assume some of them may erroneously be listed in someone else's account...can anyone shed light on this for me?

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Willing to bet it's 100% that, just search the names on U and if they are listed by someone else, just contact U and ask them to be removed and place into your account. I noticed this on a few names and U took care of it in no time

DomainBarracksRob said:

Willing to bet it's 100% that, just search the names on U and if they are listed by someone else, just contact U and ask them to be removed and place into your account. I noticed this on a few names and U took care of it in no time

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Thanks for the response...I will send them the list.

Mister Funsky said:

it says "you are not allowed to update this domain".

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That needs to be updated and made clear.

@Undeveloped


1-

https://www.
in your landers are giving ssl errors. Please fix it.

2-
in your landers and DNS, if possible, please redirect all non-existing subdomains (catchall 301 redirect + wildcard A record in DNS) to the landing page. So that traffic is not wasted.

3-
Please allow users to add statcounter to landing pages. Namesilo landing pages have an option to add statcounter. I avoid using anayltics.

Under the 'Make Offer' button, how about a small text link that reads:

"How Much Should I Offer?"

And under this link can be a page informing domain buyers about the value of domains and what domains usually sell for, historic sales, etc. A lot of regular people have no idea what domain names are bought and sold for, and when they see a blank 'Make Offer' option with no Buy Now price, they don't know whether to offer $10 or $1000 and they usually opt-in to lowball or either pass-up on making an offer all-together.

Also, I read a lot of people saying in their TrustPilot feedback that they were "weary" or "concerned" with buying. I think if you guys added a video on the landing pages actually explaining what you do, how the buying process works, how easy it is, and listed all of your contact info within it (Phone number, twitter/facebook/social media accounts) - it would really advertise and showcase your company's transparency which will add trust and convert more buyers.

If you'd like to see an example of a video, go to BuyDomains.com, HugeDomains, or any of the successful brandable marketplaces (BrandBucket,BrandRoot, etc) They *all* have short 3 minute videos that buyers can watch. They must have them for a reason and the proof is in the pudding...

My 2 cents, hope to see change. And Good Job @ Undeveloped.

DomainBarracksRob said:

Not sure if it's been explained here already.....but I can't seem to figure out how to get the custom Background/picture images on my undeveloped landers...mine is just all basic White background....how do you change it to show related images ?

Thanks

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Hi Rob,

You can add your own background here: https://undeveloped.com/users/settings/profile

Mister Funsky said:

So, I've had many hundreds of domains listed on U for a couple of years now and today I tried to add 25 or so I had missed/skipped in the past and only about 2/3 made it.

Most of the ones that didn't get imported said 'ignored' and a few others said 'failed' and when the question mark is hovered it says "you are not allowed to update this domain". The name is not in my portfolio so of course I can not update it.

I assume some of them may erroneously be listed in someone else's account...can anyone shed light on this for me?

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Hi Funsky,

When you get the ignored status that means that the domain was already listed in your account. The failes status indicates that our support team has to look into the domain status and move it for you after verifying ownership.

poweredbyme said:

@Undeveloped


1-

https://www.
in your landers are giving ssl errors. Please fix it.

2-
in your landers and DNS, if possible, please redirect all non-existing subdomains (catchall 301 redirect + wildcard A record in DNS) to the landing page. So that traffic is not wasted.

3-
Please allow users to add statcounter to landing pages. Namesilo landing pages have an option to add statcounter. I avoid using anayltics.

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Hi,

Thank you for the feedback.

tomcarl said:

Under the 'Make Offer' button, how about a small text link that reads:

"How Much Should I Offer?"

And under this link can be a page informing domain buyers about the value of domains and what domains usually sell for, historic sales, etc. A lot of regular people have no idea what domain names are bought and sold for, and when they see a blank 'Make Offer' option with no Buy Now price, they don't know whether to offer $10 or $1000 and they usually opt-in to lowball or either pass-up on making an offer all-together.

Also, I read a lot of people saying in their TrustPilot feedback that they were "weary" or "concerned" with buying. I think if you guys added a video on the landing pages actually explaining what you do, how the buying process works, how easy it is, and listed all of your contact info within it (Phone number, twitter/facebook/social media accounts) - it would really advertise and showcase your company's transparency which will add trust and convert more buyers.

If you'd like to see an example of a video, go to BuyDomains.com, HugeDomains, or any of the successful brandable marketplaces (BrandBucket,BrandRoot, etc) They *all* have short 3 minute videos that buyers can watch. They must have them for a reason and the proof is in the pudding...

My 2 cents, hope to see change. And Good Job @ Undeveloped.

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Hi Tom,

We've been asking buyers that mentioned the issue you raise about what caused their negative initial impression. And so far a number of negative threads on Namepros and this rogue review site which we have nothing to do with: https://www.reviews.io/company-reviews/store/undeveloped-com - seem to be the cause of that recent sentiment (the first 350 reviews didn't include the sentiment you refer to).

The three threads they refer to at Namepros we cannot delete and they rank very high in Google which we also can't impact. Even though we've replied in those threads, apparently some people only read the initial post created by the original poster and not our reaction.

We've also requested the review site I mentioned above to delete that entry as we only collect real reviews from our customers via Trustpilot but they refuse to do so and it seems that this tactic is part of their business model. The first review, for example, is clearly fake and they even emailed us to respond to it when it was placed.

Having said this, on the 18th of June we're launching our new platform. We've built parts of the new marketplace (the blockchain) in partnership with IBM (the oldest tech company in the world!). IBM has also created a case study of our new platform which will be published on our launch date.

This partnership but also other improvements we're launching will tackle some of the problems you raise.

Kind regards,

Reza

It now says "coming soon" at Dan.com. Can you confirm this is your new name, @Undeveloped?

Embrand said:

It now says "coming soon" at Dan.com. Can you confirm this is your new name, @Undeveloped?

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Going for that early 90s aesthetic look, too. That's bold.

Embrand said:

It now says "coming soon" at Dan.com. Can you confirm this is your new name, @Undeveloped?

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Hi Embrand, unfortunately I can not share the new name yet. We’ve got some PR agreements in place and to not cause an press embargo break I would like to kindly ask all members to not speculate yet . In Mid-June we’ll announce it directly here together with the launch of the best domain sales and monetization infrastructure ever built.

And that will be just the start of it. All our engineers currently solely focus on the upcoming launch, however, we’ve also worked with external freelancers to work on new projects that will be deployed shortly after our big launch.

Back to work again now, there’s still plenty to do

Kind regards,

Reza

Reza said:

Hi Embrand, unfortunately I can not share the new name yet. We’ve got some PR agreements in place and to not cause an press embargo break I would like to kindly ask all members to not speculate yet . In Mid-June we’ll announce it directly here together with the launch of the best domain sales and monetization infrastructure ever built.

And that will be just the start of it. All our engineers currently solely focus on the upcoming launch, however, we’ve also worked with external freelancers to work on new projects that will be deployed shortly after our big launch.

Back to work again now, there’s still plenty to do

Kind regards,

Reza

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Sorry, I will stop speculating. It is just very exciting what is going on behind the scenes, so it is hard to wait

Reza said:

In Mid-June we’ll announce it directly here together with the launch of the best domain sales and monetization infrastructure ever built.

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A very bold statement and I am one of those eagerly waiting to see what you are building. There is certainly room for a clean, responsive, safe and user friendly site that can seamlessly handle both monetization and sales of our assets...can't wait to see it.

@Reza Any plans to lower your 9% commission? That's too much for escrow service, as Undeveloped not refer any clients and all sales is outbound domain type-in clients. Because of that i know many domainers who owns $100k+ domains uses Efty integrated with Escrow as they (Escrow.com) charges only about 2% from the sale.

I thing 5-8% will be fair for Undeveloped. You can create scale, for example for sales up to $10k commission will be 8%, for sales up to 50k is 7%, up to $100k is 6% and over $100k is 5%.

Argentum said:

@Reza Any plans to lower your 9% commission? That's too much for escrow service, as Undeveloped not refer any clients and all sales is outbound domain type-in clients. Because of that i know many domainers who owns $100k+ domains uses Efty integrated with Escrow as they (Escrow.com) charges only about 2% from the sale.

I thing 5-8% will be fair for Undeveloped. You can create scale, for example for sales up to $10k commission will be 8%, for sales up to 50k is 7%, up to $100k is 6% and over $100k is 5%.

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Undeveloped's escrow is 5% ... you only pay 9% when you use their landing pages and the buyer comes from there.

loredan said:

Undeveloped's escrow is 5% ... you only pay 9% when you use their landing pages and the buyer comes from there.

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And we also do not need to send in personally identifiable information to be stored on a web server somewhere with no idea who has access, etc... I prefer undeveloped for many reasons, the simple escrow is one of them.