advice Opt out 60 days lock

frank-germany · Apr 4, 2019

does somebody know
how the ICANN terms
allow an out opt of the 60 day lock period
when I transfer my own domains to another registrar?
( .com )

frank-germany · May 8, 2019

stub said:
Wow! Is this GoDaddy's latest attempt at a simple push? Do you have any reference?

sure
just gone through the nightmare
and their thoughtfully designed interface made me pay twice for the one-year renewal due
at a whopping $18,17 USD x 2 = $36.34 USD
instead of a $8.25 USD transfer at Dynadot
I love Godaddy
---
Your domain transfer is complete.
The following domains have been transferred to your account:
xxx.com
To make sure all info related to your domains is accurate and up to date, sign in to your account.
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Your registrar transfer was denied.
The transfer you requested for xxxx.com has been declined because you opted-in to a transfer lock for 60 days when you agreed to the GoDaddy Change of Registrant policy.
For security reasons, when you change the registrant's first name, last name, email address or organization name, you consent to a 60-day lock on transferring the domain name. Because you’ve provided your consent, Section 3(6) of the ICANN Policy on Transfer of Registration between Registrars permits us to decline your transfer request.

I had not been asked for my consent
and I was not told how to opt-out

GoDaddy lost me as a domain customer long ago
and the continue to surprise me

Name Trader · May 9, 2019

@frank-germany - This thread makes an interesting read of this issue. It's a worthwhile read.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/godaddy-account-push-issues.1133189/

offthehandle · May 9, 2019

According to ICANN- Registrars are NOT required to lock the domain, though many do. I just got mixed up with an issue on this on a sale.

Here are ICANN's rules directly:

"60-Day Lock After Change of Registrant
After 1 December 2016, registrars must impose a lock that will prevent any transfer to another registrar for sixty (60) days following a change to a registrant's information. Registrars may (but are not required to) allow registrants to opt out of the 60-day lock prior to the change of registrant request."

To transfer a domain name to another registrar and change the registrant's information, registrants may:

- Request the transfer to another registrar before changing the registrant's information (to avoid the 60-day lock); or
- Have the prior registrant opt-out the 60-day lock (if this option is offered by the registrar) before making any change to registrant information.

Because policies may vary by registrar, please review a registrar's policy before making a change to registrant information or transferring to another registrar.

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/ownership-2013-05-03-en

Bob Hawkes · May 9, 2019

Thank you @offthehandle for the full text re ICANN. That was what I thought was the situation, but reading this thread and the reference by some registrars to ICANN policy wondered if I had been wrong.

I know that some registrars on a case by case basis may waive it. Which registrars routinely allow in something less than 60 days? It would be helpful information to have. Or is there already a post with that somewhere on NPs? Thanks.

Bob

offthehandle · May 9, 2019

Bob Hawkes said:
That was what I thought was the situation, but reading this thread and the reference by some registrars to ICANN policy wondered if I had been wrong.

I just got messed up- but originally my fault for not checking the purchase dates before selling. Normally would not have said anything on this sort of thread as 5 pages of speculation I guess is more fun yet could have been resolved in 2 minutes of google, but thought it might help. lol.

Regarding which registrars allow it, I don't know as I stopped using the 10 or so I had. I just looked at Namebrights TOS (updated April 2019) and could not see anything about a lock. You might ask them directly by calling, they have the best domainer interface for bulk actions- privacy, nameserver changes, 301's, etc. imo. I have used 20 registrars now, and really happy using them for most all work, and they answer the phone, I talk to the same people who respond to emails, and are not farming out 24 support overseas that is limited to a chat. Sure work 5 day week and normal business hours in the USA though to answer the phone, but wasting 45 minutes typing in a chat to only be told I need to contact support the next day, well that is pretty lame. Not going to mention who.

Jurgen Wolf · May 9, 2019

Actual IRTP (regarding "60-day lock" after registration/previous transfer):
https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/transfer-policy-2016-06-01-en

3.7 ...may deny...
3.8 ...must deny...

So it is completely optional.

p.s. Lock after change of registrant and opt-out of it - it is another kind of lock.

Jurgen Wolf · May 9, 2019

Bob Hawkes said:
Which registrars routinely allow in something less than 60 days?

I already posted above that I have the positive transfer-out experience with 1and1 and Donuts TLDs below 60 days since registration.

offthehandle · May 9, 2019

Jurgen Wolf said:
So it is completely optional.

Thanks. This is decent sales point for domainer centric registrars.

Jurgen Wolf · May 9, 2019

And it 100% will NOT work with Afilias TLDs (.PRO/.ORG/.info etc.) and CentralNic TLDs (.xyz/.online etc.) regardless of your registrar, those registries still use the archaic serverTransferProhibited method (it is shown in WHOIS).

offthehandle · Sep 25, 2019

I forgot this thread. Bought a domain here via a push registered at GD, intention was to transfer out right away, but that I didn’t realize was about to expire. I knew about the whois change terms, but was Forced to overpay $10 more ($18) immediately at GD, changed whois, requested auth code to move it to NS paid $8.99 there but was instantly rejected by GD. Sent an email to GD secureserver email address and of course, several days go by and still no email response. It will sit, 60 days in GD jail.

This is why I removed all my domains from their platform, stopped bidding and removed auction account too. Their Lousy user interface, expensive overpriced services and problems where you have to call several times to resolve matters is annoying. Their hosting is also slower than other hosts I have tried. I can’t understand how anyone likes them, even my non tech lawyer moved hosting from them. No discount codes for even $1 domains would get me back, the hassle factor is too high.

I think that all the domain bloggers don’t say anything since they get advertising money to promote them, hence why none usually complain or say anything like in this thread.

frank-germany · Sep 25, 2019

offthehandle said:
I forgot this thread. Bought a domain here via a push registered at GD, intention was to transfer out right away, but that I didn’t realize was about to expire. I knew about the whois change terms, but was Forced to overpay $10 more ($18) immediately at GD, changed whois, requested auth code to move it to NS paid $8.99 there but was instantly rejected by GD. Sent an email to GD secureserver email address and of course, several days go by and still no email response. It will sit, 60 days in GD jail.

This is why I removed all my domains from their platform, stopped bidding and removed auction account too. Their Lousy user interface, expensive overpriced services and problems where you have to call several times to resolve matters is annoying. Their hosting is also slower than other hosts I have tried. I can’t understand how anyone likes them, even my non tech lawyer moved hosting from them. No discount codes for even $1 domains would get me back, the hassle factor is too high.

I think that all the domain bloggers don’t say anything since they get advertising money to promote them, hence why none usually complain or say anything like in this thread.

I have never understood why anybody may like godaddy as their registar

Larion · Sep 25, 2019

Question please:

My Domain is not new, but it gets a "owner update".
is there a 60-day-lock at NETSOL when a name-change (owner update) is made ?
is it possible to opt-out of the 60-day-lock at NETSOL in this case ?

Many thanks!

Jurgen Wolf · Sep 25, 2019

Larion said:
My Domain is not new, but it gets a "owner update".
is there a 60-day-lock at NETSOL when a name-change (owner update) is made ?
is it possible to opt-out of the 60-day-lock at NETSOL in this case ?

Depends on their policy, how they process such changes...
And you have the rights to opt-out.

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