SquadHelp - Marketplace

JudgeMind · Jan 26, 2019

Hey Folks,

I've just started using squadhelp.com to list some of my brandable. So far I have 76 domains listed, there is no fee to list. I've had some decent action so far in the way of interested buyers but no sales as of yet. I've only been with them for 1 week now.

A bit of a summary review of SquadHelp:

PROS

No Listing fee
No Logo design fee
Ability to submit your names to end users holding naming contests
Ability to chat directly or send a message directly to end users.
Stats of your marketplace domains are shown in the marketplace dashboard.
Their customer service and support has been great, 24hr a day chat.
Ability to increase or decrease the list price of your domains or to show a discount. You can decrease or increase the price yourself by $200. If you want to lower more, you can contact support.
End users can shortlist your domains before they make a decision on which they want to purchase. The number of shortlists is shown in you marketplace dashboard.
When you submit your names you get to set the price you wish to get. Because their commissions are high I recommend listing at a higher price to offset the commission costs.
Their landing pages are fairly basic but they work. Because the marketplace is fairly new, I'm sure we will see style improvements in the future.
One thing I really like is they accept multiple extensions. I have listed .co and .io along with .com
Each seller gets a direct link to their marketplace portfolio, HERES MY PORTFOLIO. It is handy if your trying to p[promote your portfolio through social media.
I like that their marketplace doesn't have tens of thousands domain listings like BB. They are fairly strict on the domains they accept to list and so this helps keep the number of domains in the marketplace down and gets your listings more exposure.

CONS

Their commissions are very high, depending on the domain name they are usually between 30% and 35%. However, there are no listing fees, no logo design fees, so in the end their commission is very similar to brand buckets.
Their logos are not top quality, in fact I requested to have some of my logos remade.
I think they have a big backlog of logos to design, the wait time for logo design has been around 1 week, but your names are still listed while the logos are being designed.
After your names are accepted you need to agree to their commission rate, at this point you also need to apply your own keywords, descriptions etc. I found this was very time consuming.

NameWell · Apr 30, 2019

Cdomains said:
I am glad someone else thinks the same as me.

You are right - the way they pick names makes no sense!!

I gave up submitting names a couple weeks ago.

Might give it one more try soon.

My advice would be keep a close track on what sells and on newly added names.

Recons.Com said:
First, it is not true.

Second, if true, that is awful for the website integrity.

It is true. Creatives write descriptions for their domain names. Squadhelp sometimes edit them, though.

ALDaisy1 · Apr 30, 2019

Recons.Com said:
First, it is not true.

Second, if true, that is awful for the website integrity.

Lol, it certainly is true. When you have a name approved as a premium listing, you are provided with a form to fill out that includes main category, possible uses, and description. I suppose it is possible Squadhelp might write a description if that section was left blank, but otherwise, the person listing the domain provides the listing info. Anyone who lists on the platform can confirm this is the case.

Recons.Com · Apr 30, 2019

ALDaisy1 said:
Lol, it certainly is true. When you have a name approved as a premium listing, you are provided with a form to fill out that includes main category, possible uses, and description. I suppose it is possible Squadhelp might write a description if that section was left blank, but otherwise, the person listing the domain provides the listing info. Anyone who lists on the platform can confirm this is the case.

When I say it is not true, I mean SH takes full ownership of description and uses your input as starting point, very often re-writing it. So they are fully responsible for any "insinuations" there.

NameWell · Apr 30, 2019

Recons.Com said:
I love your detailed responses. And I appreciate you taking time to do it as well. That is a welcome difference from BB, for example.

And I get a feeling that you genuinely believe what you are posting too.

I wish those explanations would hold some water too. Unfortunately, they don't.

Basically, you are saying that the review process is semi-automated. I.e., your reviewers have access to the "history" of a name at your platform. How that even works? If an ugly name was submitted 10 times and got couple of likes, then it gets some positive score and if a nice name was submitted 1-2 time and no likes, then it gets negative score?

You might have 6 million submissions, but probably most of them are repeat submissions of already listed names or names still available at handreg. Good names don't stay in drops for long for most part (there are exceptions, but not millions and not even hundreds of thousands). So, no, most rejected names probably had never been submitted at your platform, and certainly not 4Ls.

Furthermore, now you are effectively saying that names like Bunny/And/Bo, Nuvi/qe, Rising/Door, One/Carousel, Sell/Vast, Ensight/ian, Quite/Luxe, Edge/larity, Blush/is had multiple submissions and great reception with multiple likes. And I strongly doubt that or the buyers are truly clueless.

No, seriously, you are saying with a straight face that naming a company "Rising/Door" is a great idea, because it was previously submitted while available and then once someone regged it and submitted, your software recognized it and your great reviewers agreed with it? Instead of giving generic response, why don't you break down this example and let me know how it matches your own criteria? How does Rising/Door look? It lies flat on the floor and goes up when someone tries to cross? That would be a novel idea ))) What type of business could use it? Ok, let's look at description:

"
The name expresses the opening and the vertical direction. He is fresh, friendly, and promises growth.

Possible Uses
a Construction company, a Consulting Company, a Real Estate business and more!"

Really? Construction company named "Rising/Door"? ))) And why the name is "He"? Your reviewers can't figure out that a brand is "it", not "he", and yet they are linguistic and branding experts!

Let's look at "Ensight/ian":

"A visionary name based on the words 'sight' and 'envision'. Possible uses: A graphic design firm. A photo sharing platform. A vision or eye wear product. A wearable technology. A virtual reality company. An animation studio. A toy brand. A marketing agency."

Wow! So merging sight and envision gives Ensight/ian? Maybe, Ensight? Who is Ian then? And, envision has nothing to do with it. It is a prefix en- at play here. See enforce, endorse, enable etc. But you don't create brandables by both adding prefix and suffix to a word. This is why enright/ian is still available for hand reg

Let's find out the logic behind Nuv/iqe.

"
A short, elegant, and sophisticated name that insinuates something new and fresh. Would pair well with premium products pertaining to beauty and/or skincare."

Seriously, though, hire editors with a better command of English, if you guys are going to act as if you have figured out branding and are super selective.

Insinuates???

"Insinuate - suggest or hint (something bad or reprehensible) in an indirect and unpleasant way"

So this short, elegant and sophisticated name suggest in an unpleasant way something new and fresh? On the second thought, it does make sense ) And now brands "pair well" with products?

What kind of suffix/ending is /iqe? If I submit new/iqe, brand/iqe and the whole dictionary+iqe, since all of them seem to be available, you will superselectively give them all pass?

You should really try tracking recently bought names for a couple of months and you'll see that names similar to the ones you listed above are actually selling. Furthermore, if you'll track names that recently won contests on Squadhelp you'll see some names that are similar to those in a way. They might not make sense to you (it's subjective), but for someone else, they might make a perfect sense. And like I said before, people who are native English speakers and people who are not native English speakers often see things differently i.e. spelling of the same word might seem natural and intuitive for some, but difficult and complex for others. The same is with pronunciation.

NameWell · Apr 30, 2019

Recons.Com said:
When I say it is not true, I mean SH takes full ownership of description and uses your input as starting point, very often re-writing it. So they are fully responsible for any "insinuations" there.

In my personal experience, they have edited the descriptions of only small portion of names in my portfolio. I might be wrong, but I think that would be less then 10 out of 142 names that I currently have. Maybe your experience is different.

trelgor · Apr 30, 2019

NameWell said:
You should really try tracking recently bought names for a couple of months and you'll see that names similar to the ones you listed above are actually selling. Furthermore, if you'll track names that recently won contests on Squadhelp you'll see similar names. They might not make sense to you (it's subjective), but for someone else, they might make a perfect sense. And like I said before, people who are native English speakers and people who are not native English speakers often see things differently.

How many names (seller owned domains) does SquadHelpn have listed? 25k? They’ve been around for a few years. They have a buyer base.

They recently saw enough of a combustion to really get with it, and the brandable space domaining community is bombarding them with submissions.

My take is that some (a lot?) of buyers like the process of crowdsourcing. They also dislike branding agency costs and failures.

I think it is mostly the process, not necessarily name quality that is selling right now. There is risk for misinterpretation of this, IMO.

Recons.Com · Apr 30, 2019

NameWell said:
You should really try tracking recently bought names for a couple of months and you'll see that names similar to the ones you listed above are actually selling. Furthermore, if you'll track names that recently won contests on Squadhelp you'll see similar names. They might not make sense to you (it's subjective), but for someone else, they might make a perfect sense. And like I said before, people who are native English speakers and people who are not native English speakers often see things differently.

Unfortunately, you don't get the point of what I am writing.

If SH is saying that they are super-selective and choose only 6-8% of submitted names and the names like Nuv/iqe or Rising/Door or Ensight/ian make through, that either means that a) their sellers submitted such a trash that SH has to be super-generous, not super-selective, to let those through or b) SH reviewers are so clueless that they start with 6-8% admittance rate that they are probably given and then manage to allow such bad names, while blocking great names that would truly benefited the business, instead of causing them problems in the future.

No matter if it sells or not, those names are awful and will hurt the businesses that make a mistake of choosing them. -iqe is simply not used as suffix, for example, and will create range of problems, including losing business to nuviq, nuvique, newiq, newique, nuvic, nuvik, newic, newik, newweek etc., as well as confusion how to pronounce (SH suggests to pronounce as nuviq, which makes no sense, as the last e, should make "i" pronounced as in "ice").

And, SH ignored so far my question regarding -iqe ending. Will they accept all the top words + that ending? Or plus -is ending? I can certainly find better than "blush" for that and SH won't have to blush for offering sub-par names to clients that rely on its expertise while focusing on developing their products and services.

And I cannot imagine the ridicule the new owner of Rising/Door will face trying to explain the meaning of an opening and vertical direction.

I just awarded a 100K+ contract to an architect firm and I don't think I would have taken the firm seriously if its name was "Rising/Door".

Furquan · Apr 30, 2019

Recons.Com said:
Unfortunately, you don't get the point of what I am writing.

If SH is saying that they are super-selective and choose only 6-8% of submitted names and the names like Nuv/iqe or Rising/Door or Ensight/ian make through, that either means that a) their sellers submitted such a trash that SH has to be super-generous, not super-selective, to let those through or b) SH reviewers are so clueless that they start with 6-8% admittance rate that they are probably given and then manage to allow such bad names, while blocking great names that would truly benefited the business, instead of causing them problems in the future.

No matter if it sells or not, those names are awful and will hurt the businesses that make a mistake of choosing them. -iqe is simply not used as suffix, for example, and will create range of problems, including losing business to nuviq, nuvique, newiq, newique, nuvic, nuvik, newic, newik, newweek etc., as well as confusion how to pronounce (SH suggests to pronounce as Inuvik, which makes no sense, as the last e, should make "i" pronounced as in "ice").

And, SH ignored so far my question regarding -the ending. Will they accept all the top words + that ending? Or plus -is ending? I can certainly find better than "blush" for that and SH won't have to blush for offering sub-par names to clients that rely on its expertise while focusing on developing their products and services.

And I cannot imagine the ridicule the new owner of Rising/Door will face trying to explain the meaning of an opening and vertical direction.

I just awarded a 100K+ contract to an architect firm and I don't think I would have taken the firm seriously if its name was "Rising/Door".

Whether its Blush or Bunny & Bo, at the end names got sold & get reported & get developed. It means " seller is getting $$$ from them" as a seller I only want to know this.

Other platform claim 5% to 7% sales through rate & I don't knew how to verify them.

Every marketplace has 'Good Names' & 'Bad Names' you have researched and found bad names for SH. Now time to go on other marketplace & see what names are their

If you think SH is not accepting good names but only accepting 'trash' you should better move on or start submitting 'trash' names as it's getting sold on SH.

bowskie · Apr 30, 2019

Recons.Com said:
I appreciate you taking time to respond. I wish also that you took time to actually read what I wrote and did not provide generic irrelevant answer.

Being selective is good, except I don't see any sign of it, except decreasing % in some randomized selection.

Please re-read my post and see examples I provided from just looking through first few names listed in your market. How is listing Bunny/And/Bo selective? Infinite/Ignite? Nuvi/qe? Rising/Door?

Here if I sort by latest listings:

Sell/Vast. Please look up the definition of Vast and think how is that relevant to Sell. Also verb+adjective doesn't make sense.

One/Carousel...

Ensightian - seriously, what is it? Insight is a word. Ensight is already a made-up brandable. Adding limited use suffix -ian doesn't do much valuewise and creates bunch of possibilities of misspells.

Quite/Luxe - How can something be quite luxe??! It is either luxe or it is not...

What is Edge/larity??

Blush/is? So if I add /is suffix (is it even really a suffix or is it "is" as in "to be"? Will you accept if I start registering popular (is "blush" popular even?) word + is?

All of the above, and again I did not even have to go to page 2 to check these ones, doesn't show selectiveness. They are against your own guidelines.

FYI

Bunny/And/Bo now being shown as SOLD on marketplace dashboard.

OnlineDomainShop · Apr 30, 2019

I think SH is improving day by day , Today they launched something called "instant launch listing" ... Regarless of high number of rejections i still have 53 names on SH , One is very near to sale may be in few weeks i will get a sale ... I think they should increase the Review Requests from 5 to 10 atleast for each month...

Recons.Com · Apr 30, 2019

Furquah said:
Whether its Blush or Bunny & Bo, at the end names got sold & get reported & get developed. It means " seller is getting $$$ from them" as a seller I only want to know this.

Other platform claim 5% to 7% sales through rate & I don't knew how to verify them.

Every marketplace has 'Good Names' & 'Bad Names' you have researched and found bad names for SH. Now time to go on other marketplace & see what names are their

If you think SH is not accepting good names but only accepting 'trash' you should better move on or start submitting 'trash' names as it's getting sold on SH.

And that is where you are wrong. The list of the sold names is considerably better than the list of lately added names, meaning that eventually, with better ones gone, the bad ones added lately will end up clogging the site and those sell through rates will quickly plunge. The whole business hinges on reputation and google search. One of those take hit, and it is a quick fall from there. See BR with google search hit and huge damage it has caused to them and their sellers.

Here is what SH shows for the lately sold:

Vestun, TheTech.io, BloomOwl, DineHive, Intelibase, Ultiv, Luxacor, ZenAndZenith, BohemianFusion etc. Those are better compared to the examples above. There are also some that sold due to SH effect, but wouldn't otherwise and that will dry up eventually. Like simpliyo, infinitley, socialeffex... Can't imagine a business with long sustained success under names like that.

Recons.Com · Apr 30, 2019

bowskie said:
FYI

Bunny/And/Bo now being shown as SOLD on marketplace dashboard.

I don't doubt they can sell. Heck, they might sell "Nuviqe" soon too. That doesn't change anything from what I wrote. Those businesses look up to SH do the branding portion and browse through the names SH suggests are premium.

Before posting, I did google Bunny and Bo and it seems there is a business Bo/Bunny. I assumed it is either potential TM issue (if they coined the combo) or it is a part of pop culture somewhere that I am unaware of. Either way, did not and don't think it should be on a "super-selective" platform.

Oruko · May 1, 2019

Recons.Com said:
I don't doubt they can sell. Heck, they might sell "Nuviqe" soon too. That doesn't change anything from what I wrote. Those businesses look up to SH do the branding portion and browse through the names SH suggests are premium.

Before posting, I did google Bunny and Bo and it seems there is a business Bo/Bunny. I assumed it is either potential TM issue (if they coined the combo) or it is a part of pop culture somewhere that I am unaware of. Either way, did not and don't think it should be on a "super-selective" platform.

Your criticism so far isn't constructive enough! Looking more like sheer hatred or due to the fact that many of your domain names weren't accepted.

Well! I think the issue is simple, go elsewhere if you don't like a platform. The sky is big enough for all beds to fly. Your emphases doesn't hold water.

Funny how you also have a company of your own, if i am not mistaken and you are here in a public domain badmouthing another company out of hatred.

I will also like to inform you that Brandable Domain names doesn't have to follow English Language principles. Some don't even have any meaning, reason why they are called Invented or Made Up Names.

One man's food is another man's poison.

If you have no positive things to say or criticise constructively, it is better you just focus on other things.

trelgor · May 1, 2019

Oruko said:
Your criticism so far isn't constructive enough! Looking more like sheer hatred or due to the fact that many of your domain names weren't accepted.

Well! I think the issue is simple, go elsewhere if you don't like a platform. The sky is big enough for all beds to fly. Your emphases doesn't hold water.

Funny how you also have a company of your own, if i am not mistaken and you are here in a public domain badmouthing another company out of hatred.

I will also like to inform you that Brandable Domain names doesn't have to follow English Language principles. Some don't even have any meaning, reason why they are called Invented or Made Up Names.

One man's food is another man's poison.

If you have no positive things to say or criticise constructively, it is better you just focus on other things.

”Shut up if you don’t have positive things to say” is the mother of evil.

I don’t think there is anything I loathe more than when someone for no obvious reason other than siding with establishment decides to criticize someone for speaking their mind. It makes me cringe.

I don’t think SquadHelp needs your defense. They need development, and I’m sure they value input.

Criticism is a valuable thing. ”Constructive” or not.

Regietron · May 1, 2019

OnlineDomainShop said:
I think SH is improving day by day , Today they launched something called "instant launch listing" ... Regarless of high number of rejections i still have 53 names on SH , One is very near to sale may be in few weeks i will get a sale ... I think they should increase the Review Requests from 5 to 10 atleast for each month...

Please how can you tell that your domain is "very near to sell"

Furquan · May 1, 2019

trelgor said:
”Shut up if you don’t have positive things to say” is the mother of evil.

I don’t think there is anything I loathe more than when someone for no obvious reason other than siding with establishment decides to criticize someone for speaking their mind. It makes me cringe.

I don’t think SquadHelp needs your defense. They need development, and I’m sure they value input.

Criticism is a valuable thing. ”Constructive” or not.

There are people including this guy & other who get angry when i try to criticise brandpa. If you want check head over BP review thread you will find it.

Recons.Com · May 1, 2019

Oruko said:
Your criticism so far isn't constructive enough! Looking more like sheer hatred or due to the fact that many of your domain names weren't accepted.

Well! I think the issue is simple, go elsewhere if you don't like a platform. The sky is big enough for all beds to fly. Your emphases doesn't hold water.

Funny how you also have a company of your own, if i am not mistaken and you are here in a public domain badmouthing another company out of hatred.

I will also like to inform you that Brandable Domain names doesn't have to follow English Language principles. Some don't even have any meaning, reason why they are called Invented or Made Up Names.

One man's food is another man's poison.

If you have no positive things to say or criticise constructively, it is better you just focus on other things.

It seems you have no clue what "constructive criticism" means.

"Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others..."

I provided long detailed and factually supported opinion/analysis. I also suggested that they follow their own guidelines when approving names and suggested they improve the quality of their reviewers. That all is constructive.

While your criticism of me has zero facts or specific suggestions what you want me to improve, besides "either shut up or take your names elsewhere".

And you are completely clueless if you assume there is no logic/rules/stats/analytics regarding what constitutes a good brandable name and, yes, a lot of it is based on some of the English language principles.

Recons.Com · May 1, 2019

Furquah said:
There are people including this guy & other who get angry when i try to criticise brandpa. If you want check head over BP review thread you will find it.

So, why are you not consistent and why you get angry when someone criticizes SH?

Your whole "criticism" of Brandpa has focused on you not having access to their Slack channel and your assertion that BP doesn't have many sales and they are lying about their 5-6% sell through, while supporting that with exactly zero facts.

And, yet, here you are suddenly fair and supportive.

Furquan · May 1, 2019

Recons.Com said:
Your whole "criticism" of Brandpa has focused on you not having access to their Slack channel and your assertion that BP doesn't have many sales and they are lying about their 5-6% sell-through, while supporting that with exactly zero facts

I have their slack channel access from the start but I get kicked out without notification without a warning when I contacted their support than I got to knew that BP from thin air made a slack channel policy & they only allow people who have 35 plus published name. (I call this one of the 'Stupid policy I ever saw'.

It was not Slack Channel it was a mishandling of a seller who have been with them from the beginning. You can't just make policy in a minute & implement it to forcefully without a single warning.

You come here & start criticizes SH but you forget to do same with BP when i posted some 'Real Pure Trash' published names on BP.

For ur reference.

Regietron · May 1, 2019

@Recons.Com & @Furquah

Please this thread is about SH marketplace. You both have made your stance clear & known. You are beginning to derail. Kindly take your fight elsewhere.

NYJimbo · May 1, 2019

ALDaisy1 said:
Anyone who lists on the platform can confirm this is the case.

I always add a domain as basic plus, update the

Recons.Com said:
So, why are you not consistent and why you get angry when someone criticizes SH?

Your whole "criticism" of Brandpa has focused on you not having access to their Slack channel and your assertion that BP doesn't have many sales and they are lying about their 5-6% sell through, while supporting that with exactly zero facts.

And, yet, here you are suddenly fair and supportive.

Take this to PM/DM, its not helping anyone.

Recons.Com · May 1, 2019

NYJimbo said:
I always add a domain as basic plus, update the

Take this to PM/DM, its not helping anyone.

And how would you know that? There is nothing private here. It is a discussion about SH marketplace and opinions are shared.

Regietron said:
@Recons.Com & @Furquah

Please this thread is about SH marketplace. You both have made your stance clear & known. You are beginning to derail. Kindly take your fight elsewhere.

I find it amusing that two new members in @Regietron and @Oruko with combined under 100 posts feel entitled to indicate to others what derails a topic and what doesn't, what is constructive and what isn't.

Your post is completely off the topic and doesn't add anything. And people don't "begin to derail", the discussions though might. You feel that way, you click on "report" link below post, don't "begin to derail" yourself without adding anything to the subject of the discussion.

Eric Lyon · May 2, 2019

Please keep this thread on-topic about SquadHelp. Any further off-topic posts may result in a warning or infraction.

Thanks,

Regietron · May 2, 2019

OnlineDomainShop said:
One of my unregistered domains preapproved but it was registered by someone else recently...

They have worked on this now. For Any unregistered name they approve, it becomes live & registered the moment you accept terms & publish.

Cdomains · May 2, 2019

NameWell said:
My advice would be keep a close track on what sells and on newly added names

I have, and I do not think it matters. If you try to add names like they already have listed, they reject them.

One thing I noticed is they only accept names that have no real application to a particular type of business.

They seem to like weird, generic names that are non-specific and could be used for anything.

If you try to submit a name that seems too close to a niche, it will be rejected.

It seems very subjective and depends on who is doing the selecting when they are checking names.

If the person reviewing the names does not like certain types of names you are screwed.

It is a game of luck. Spin the wheel and hope the person doing the selecting that day likes the kind of names you submitted.

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