Oliver Maggs seller is scammer.

EmpireNames.com · Apr 30, 2019

Hi Guys.
i was trying to deal with this guy who own Gambly.com after having all proofs i decided to pay through paypal
but after receiving payment in paypal he disappeared
be carefull dont make any deal with him @Oliver Maggs
he trying to cash amount from paypal and then paypal will refund me and paypal will mark him as negative balance.
so he is trying to play game here with alot of guys..
be carefull

ivbran · Apr 30, 2019

Thanks for letting us know. Why you didn't left negative feedback?
https://www.namepros.com/tradereviews/oliver-maggs.1021715/summary

EmpireNames.com · Apr 30, 2019

ivbran said:
Thanks for letting us know. Why you didn't left negative feedback?
https://www.namepros.com/tradereviews/oliver-maggs.1021715/summary

oh yes i forgot ... i will do it nw

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

I was also scammed. Riz, you could have seen in the thread that I already bought it.

He trashed a contract we signed for the domain and the trademark and said he hasn't received any payment afterwards. But I saved copies of contracts and payments.

I already contacted Escrow, Undeveloped and other companies where he had accounts. He has social profiles. But from at least LinkedIn, it seems his pictures disappeared.

He parked the domain at undeveloped yesterday but my payment was declined. First Escrow was agreed, but there were problems because they don't offer credit card for GBP transactions. So I paid him differently.

The domain is now registered at LybianSpider!

EmpireNames.com · Apr 30, 2019

BrunoWillis said:
I was also scammed. He trashed a contract we signed for the domain and the trademark and said he hasn't received any payment afterwards. But I saved copies of contracts and payments.

I already contacted Escrow, Undeveloped and other companies where he had accounts. He has social profiles. But from at least LinkedIn, it seems his pictures disappeared.

The domain is now registered at LybianSpider!

same domain?

DotKing · Apr 30, 2019

his profile on Steam gaming platform https://steamcommunity.com/id/gamblyold
someone mentioned he is scammer in comments

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

Yes same domain. I even wrote into one thread that I bought the domain when I saw it was still offered. We signed a contract in his Google Docs, and when there were different problems with Escrow.com and Undeveloped.com (where he sent me payment requests), we then changed the payment method. After payment, he wrote "sorry haven't received anything" and deleted the signed contract. I downloaded it before.

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

https://undeveloped.com/buy-domain/gambly.com

I already contacted undeveloped and escrow by the way. Also, my credit card was blocked by my card issuer after trying to pay via undeveloped.com. So this seems to be extremely bad luck from my side.

You can find the trademark for GAMBLY in the international trademarks databases, registered to the same person. They were part of our contract.

Everybody scammed should collect all data available and denounce it.

https://imgur.com/6FGYVkK

FolioTeam · Apr 30, 2019

Saw this domain around when he was asking for some appraisals. I remember someone asking him why he was asking for the appraisal when he just sold the name in a different thread.

Thought something didn't add up then. Now, it seems my sixth sense was right

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

Yes, I posted into the open thread that I bought the domain. Then somebody contacted me regarding the appraisal, but shortly after my own payment. But he wrote me that somebody else offered him 650.

So I guess it's maybe one of these typical scams where the user didn't plan to scam from the beginning, but then the opportunity of receiving several payments for the same domain at once and disappearing was too tempting.

I've asked escrow and unveloped to save all data.

EmpireNames.com · Apr 30, 2019

he was also pushing me to pay through crypto...
thanks God i didnt paid him through crypto..
with paypal i am safe i can claim funds back..

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

Riz M. said:
he was also pushing me to pay through crypto...
thanks God i didnt paid him through crypto..
with paypal i am safe i can claim funds back..

Yes, but everybody should denounce it no matter if they finally lost the funds or not. What is interesting is that he didn't accept Paypal from me when his Escrow request and Undeveloped payments had problems.

I've contacted escrow, undeveloped, OnlineNIC and LybianSpider.

AbdulBasit.com · Apr 30, 2019

Riz M. said:
Hi Guys.
i was trying to deal with this guy who own Gambly.com after having all proofs i decided to pay through paypal
but after receiving payment in paypal he disappeared
be carefull dont make any deal with him @Oliver Maggs
he trying to cash amount from paypal and then paypal will refund me and paypal will mark him as negative balance.
so he is trying to play game here with alot of guys..
be carefull

Report to NamePros administrators with proof so they can ban this person from participating in any activity in this forum.

NYJimbo · Apr 30, 2019

FolioTeam said:
Saw this domain around when he was asking for some appraisals. I remember someone asking him why he was asking for the appraisal when he just sold the name in a different thread.

Thought something didn't add up then. Now, it seems my sixth sense was right

Yes, saw that too. Thought he was just a noob, but it turns out much worse.

wwwweb · Apr 30, 2019

As always deal seemed to good to be true, and a few always take the bait. Funny how nobody wrote a neg review which would have negated any follow up buys, until after the fact.

EmpireNames.com · Apr 30, 2019

@Eric Lyon please have look at this user profile. @Oliver Maggs
thanks

UmerK · Apr 30, 2019

BrunoWillis said:
https://undeveloped.com/buy-domain/gambly.com

I already contacted undeveloped and escrow by the way. Also, my credit card was blocked by my card issuer after trying to pay via undeveloped.com. So this seems to be extremely bad luck from my side.

You can find the trademark for GAMBLY in the international trademarks databases, registered to the same person. They were part of our contract.

Everybody scammed should collect all data available and denounce it.

https://imgur.com/6FGYVkK

Off topic but why was your CC blocked? Did you contact CC provider and Undeveloped and traced the reason?

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

wwwweb said:
As always deal seemed to good to be true, and a few always take the bait. Funny how nobody wrote a neg review which would have negated any follow up buys, until after the fact.

I wrote that domain has already been sold in one thread, I think even on Saturday.

But it seems he took all payments at the same time. Because there was a delay in my payment due to my own problems with his escrow request (couldn't pay by card because GBP transactions by cc not possible) and my unveloped.com payment (declined), and because I demanded many "proofs" and amendments to the signed contract.

What can you do when you have almost all proofs, contract, escrow with same name and email, dns change to undeveloped.com, social profile, proof that he had a business there in the past, proof that he holds the trademarks for the same word, etc.

At one point you can't do much more. Impossible to have 0% risk online especially when user offers you escrow but there are problems with the transactions which have nothing to do with him. Shouldn't have paid differently but I knew he was having other offers despite having a contract with me. I think he just decided to take the "opportunity" that different people pay for the same domain at one point. Maybe not planned from the beginning because why should he have created an escrow payment...

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

UmerK said:
Off topic but why was your CC blocked? Did you contact CC provider and Undeveloped and traced the reason?

Contacted all of them. Still waiting for reply.

biggie · Apr 30, 2019

that domain, was posted for auction by another user's name and the thread was closed by mod because of duplicate accounts.

when that happens with new member, then that should raise a red flag

they come in with that intention

and sometimes you just gotta walk away.

being persuaded to use pay services other than escrow.com, is reason to be suspicious.

hope you guys get your dough back.

imo..

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

It wasn't because of him that I couldn't pay by escrow and undeveloped. Plus there was a contract. You think why should a scammer waste so many hours for tons of amendments, proofs, etc, if he finally agrees to escrow service....I told him from the beginning that I would only accept escrow services and he agreed to everything... so that's why I think he just took the opportunity later when he realized that other people would pay him too despite that fact that the domain was already sold.

wwwweb · Apr 30, 2019

Riz M. said:
@Eric Lyon please have look at this user profile. @Oliver Maggs
thanks

BrunoWillis said:
I wrote that domain has already been sold in one thread, I think even on Saturday.

But it seems he took all payments at the same time. Because there was a delay in my payment due to my own problems with his escrow request (couldn't pay by card because GBP transactions by cc not possible) and my unveloped.com payment (declined), and because I demanded many "proofs" and amendments to the signed contract.

What can you do when you have almost all proofs, contract, escrow with same name and email, dns change to undeveloped.com, social profile, proof that he had a business there in the past, proof that he holds the trademarks for the same word, etc.

At one point you can't do much more. Impossible to have 0% risk online especially when user offers you escrow but there are problems with the transactions which have nothing to do with him. Shouldn't have paid differently but I knew he was having other offers despite having a contract with me. I think he just decided to take the "opportunity" that different people pay for the same domain at one point. Maybe not planned from the beginning because why should he have created an escrow payment...

Using Escrow was smart, undeveloped also backs up its buyers, sedo escrow is another option. You can also use registers who have checkouts that will lock, or auto transfer the domain automatically when dealing with newbies, people see a bit of a deal, and it goes south fast. Domains are liquid assets, and we are going to see more con types use legitimate scams in this seeming small industry of mainly honest people. It sucks I know, but sometimes offer a few bucks extra if they refuse to use your option, and walk away if you need to, if they are legit they will come around, if they aren’t then it’s good for you. I mean this guys whole social life is being destroyed for thousands of dollars, to bad he doesn’t realize how hard it will be to recover from this.

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

wwwweb. I did exactly what you wrote. He offered me to save 250 but I said I prefer to pay 250 more and by escrow. And he agreed and increased the amount in the contract. But then problems with payment. You normally assume a scammer leaves the party when somebody is willing to pay even 250 more for full security...Normally you don't expect a scammer to write for 2 days, add all the time amendments to a contract, if user demands escrow.

As I wrote, I guess he took the opportunity to take many payments at once later. Not from the beginning. Anyway, escrow, undeveloped and registrars are informed and I have linked to this thread.

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

biggie said:
that domain, was posted for auction by another user's name and the thread was closed by mod because of duplicate accounts.
imo..

I knew all this and talked to him about it. That's why I demanded escrow and he agreed. As I wrote, I shouldn't have taken the risk when the escrow services didn't work. Even if people first want to be honest, they can later still turn into scammers if the opportunity changes. That's the lesson.

BrunoWillis · Apr 30, 2019

Document is double signed below. First he sent me for Bitcoin, then I demanded Escrow for $1,000 which he accepted. We negotiated the details for this Escrow transaction over 2 days!

Then problems with his escrow request, change to undeveloped where my card was declined. Then I decided to take the risk because the problems didn't occur due to him, and we changed the contract back to 750 by bitcoin. Then contract was deleted by him (I have it) and "didn't receive anything".

That's why I assume he took the "chance" to take different payments at once and disappear with them when he suddenly had this opportunity. Probably also financial problems because there must be a reason why his own casino is down.

https://imgur.com/fnQwobb

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