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information Impact of the URS and Unlimited Fee Increases for Registrants in .ORG/BIZ/INFO/ASIA

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I had a discussion today with several members of the ICANN At-Large community about the changes in the proposed .org, .info, .biz and .asia contracts, namely the imposition of the URS, and the unlimited fee increases. It was recorded, so I hope you find it educational:

https://freespeech.com/2019/04/10/i...ses-for-registrants-in-org-info-biz-and-asia/

There are upcoming comment periods, so hopefully folks will submit comments to ICANN opposing these changes.
 
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I'm sure flooding their physical mailboxes with angry mails will give at least some impact to them
It is likely that they'd put any such correspondence directly to trash... They will change the "modus operandi" if and only if something serious happens, such as if their power to run business will become more and more limited... or possibly revoked someday.
 
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@Eric Lyon and/or other relevant mods, I'm requesting that this matter be publicized to all NP members if possible. I know I'm a nobody here requesting such a huge thing, but isn't this a matter that will affect everyone here on NP and elsewhere as well? If either one of the TLDs (.org, .info, .biz, or .asia) were to be successfully corrupted by these new changes then .com (and all other TLDs) will also follow suit since the corrupted TLD will be used as a precedent/excuse/reason/"evidence" and make it easier to corrupt .com and all other TLDs. This kind of thing happens in the law courts all the time.
Personal Opinion:

I think it's both, good and bad news.

For Example:
  • Keeping registration fee's capped allows for more prospective low-entry investors to grab them all up before anyone looking to actually develop them into thriving businesses, providing lower threshold investors more opportunity to long-hold or quick flip such assets.
  • Opening registration fee's up (Removing all caps) and allowing them to scale, opens up a wide range of possibilities for higher threshold investors. Such as, but not limited to, New floor values for assets they registered during the cap and tripled or better in registration costs, resulting in a liquid state of minimum value at the registrar.
Note: Another unspoken benefit (Behind the scenes) of no caps is that it helps further the structuring of the domain industry itself in a way that supports sliding scale price lines, just like franchises do, or even the IRS (E.g. charging more based on income level).

There are a plethora of business models that cater to consumers with "Based on income" price-lines.

The sliding scale value is unfortunately frowned upon by many businesses when it comes to domain investors, even though they (Them self) use the same exact practice in their brick-n-mortar to charge consumers at different income levels.

There is a lot more to look at on both sides. I've only mentioned the things that jumped out at me first and have some logic behind them. We definitely want to consider the future of our industry, as a whole, as well as a fair market.

The answer is somewhere in the middle I suppose, to appease the masses on both sides. What, exactly, the middle is, I'm not sure.

Just my thoughts anyways.

Everyone's different.

Both sides of the coin have positive and negative out-comes. Weighing which is the least-worse than the other is the hard part.

What ever happens, I can only hope that it's for the greater good of the industry and not abused or manipulated into a power-play that could potentially eliminate low-threshold investors or cripple the industry.
 
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Thanks for the alert Eric, I do hope that this goes through before the deadline/s.

Both sides of the coin have positive and negative out-comes. Weighing which is the least-worse than the other is the hard part.

For me, in this case, I'm definitely on only 1 side of this coin. Far too many things in life got too expensive to the point where it becomes expensive to be poor and cheap to be rich. Charging more based on higher income is good in an ideal world, and that's what we domainers are already (indirectly) doing (or trying to do). But I'm sure we'll keep seeing the reverse, charging more based on lower income, e.g. "bulk discounts", the irony in which those who can't afford more than 1 will have to pay the higher price, while those who have better income, who can afford a lot more, instead pay less.

Opening registration fee's up (Removing all caps) and allowing them to scale, opens up a wide range of possibilities for higher threshold investors. Such as, but not limited to, New floor values for assets they registered during the cap and tripled or better in registration costs, resulting in a liquid state of minimum value at the registrar

Aren't we all as domainers (indirectly) doing that as well, "making new floor values for higher threshold investors", without any interference from ICANN? With ICANN corruption, what I believe will happen is that registrars will be the only ones profiting from higher floor values instead of low entry domainers, the ones who truly need the profit.

And besides, I'm sure many of us have seen how high-floor-valued ngTLDs aren't exactly any more liquid.

Well, debating like this probably isn't doing much, I just hope those alerted will see the points.
 
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