Undeveloped.com Experience

JudgeMind · Nov 12, 2015

Has anyone used undeveloped.com to sell domains? They claim to be able to increase a domainers sales by 54%.

DAN.COM · Apr 5, 2019

carob said:
Not sure if this question has been asked and answered yet, apologies if it has already been covered:

When importing a lead to Undeveloped, can you offer to sell the domain on a payments plan? Can you switch that on yourself in the admin section, or is it automatically there, or do you need to contact support?

Hi Carob,

Due to the high and recurring fees for installed sales, we can't offer installed sales at 5% at the moment.

Kind regards,

Reza

DAN.COM · Apr 5, 2019

Argentum said:
@Undeveloped is there any way do turn off buy now option and only offer "Installments" option on landing pages of domain names?

Hi Argentum,

At the moment that's not possible, however, you could set up a rental instead to accomplish almost the same effect.

Having said that, one the new for sale pages that we're currently building accomplishes what you're asking for. I can't share too many details publicly yet since our competitors have become very active readers of our posts here (Hi guys

) but the new sale model is showing a conversion rate that beats any ratio we've ever seen before.

Kind regards,

Reza

domvault · Apr 6, 2019

Dear @Undeveloped ,

When are the new sales landers coming ?

Jurgen Wolf · Apr 6, 2019

Undeveloped said:
the new sale model is showing a conversion rate that beats any ratio we've ever seen before.

How about non-payers ratio, it is decreased?

DAN.COM · Apr 12, 2019

harshgupta said:
Dear @Undeveloped ,

When are the new sales landers coming ?

Hi Harsh, we don't communicate any ETA at this point due to the project still requiring some testing and product development. It's a high priority project though so we'll be able to share more details sooner or later.

Kind regards,

Reza

Anna_M · Apr 17, 2019

Hey @Undeveloped,

Any plans to create domain subset folders?

Creating different account just for this reason is pain : )

The more so competitors have got the folders options.

Thank you

alcy · Apr 17, 2019

Anna_M said:
Hey @Undeveloped,

Any plans to create domain subset folders?

Creating different account just for this reason is pain : )

The more so compentitors have got the folders options.

Thank you

whats a domain subset folder?

Anna_M · Apr 17, 2019

alcy said:
whats a domain subset folder?

Option to group domains in different folders in one account.

For easier tracking.

For those with more than one strat.

meslam479 · Apr 17, 2019

Anna_M said:
Hey @Undeveloped,

Any plans to create domain subset folders?

Creating different account just for this reason is pain : )

The more so competitors have got the folders options.

Thank you

We need this feature for sure

Anna_M · Apr 17, 2019

singhhooda said:
After the sale, smply ask them to release payout in EUR so the payment gets loaded into your Payoneer's account.

Thank you @singhhooda! So there gonna be double loss on the exchange rates, right? First, when @Undeveloped converts dollars you received for the sale to Euros and then when Payoneer converts euros to your local currency. Or am I missing something?

singhhooda · Apr 17, 2019

Undeveloped is my

Anna_M said:
Thank you @singhhooda! So there gonna be double loss on the exchange rates, right? First, when @Undeveloped converts dollars you received for the sale to Euros and then when Payoneer converts euros to your local currency. Or am I missing something?

As per what I had experienced, Undeveloped didn't charged me for currency conversion. (my max sale was till $2K).

But you should confirm them for big amounts.

OIO · Apr 26, 2019

@Undeveloped , this is one evidence of issues some of us complained about. This is a very serious case that needs to be addressed asap.

DAN.COM · Apr 26, 2019

neyoweb said:
@Undeveloped , this is one evidence of issues some of us complained about. This is a very serious case that needs to be addressed asap.

We don't accept Amex since 2016...

Haykay2005 · Apr 26, 2019

neyoweb said:
@Undeveloped , this is one evidence of issues some of us complained about. This is a very serious case that needs to be addressed asap.

@Undeveloped should work this immediately.It should be stated clearly on each page that you don't accept Amex, with this buyer won't even try it

DAN.COM · Apr 26, 2019

singhhooda said:
Undeveloped is my

As per what I had experienced, Undeveloped didn't charged me for currency conversion. (my max sale was till $2K).

But you should confirm them for big amounts.

Indeed, we don't charge currency conversions and use the real time conversation rate of the moment the payout is sent.

DAN.COM · Apr 26, 2019

Anna_M said:
Hey @Undeveloped,

Any plans to create domain subset folders?

Creating different account just for this reason is pain : )

The more so competitors have got the folders options.

Thank you

Hi Anna,

Thank you for the feedback. For the moment we allow sellers to create multiple accounts with us but I understand the need for such a feature. I've made a note of this for our product team!

Kind regards,

Reza

alcy · Apr 26, 2019

Undeveloped said:
Indeed, we don't charge currency conversions and use the real time conversation rate of the moment the payout is sent.

same for crypto payouts right? realtime?

sbweb · Apr 27, 2019

One thing I don't get is when I point the nameservers to Undeveloped for a domain, and someone else claims it, their page shows up instead of mine. If I'm pointing to their DNS, shouldn't that prove my ownership? This seems to be a frequent occurrence.

Haykay2005 · Apr 30, 2019

I will be so glad if @Undeveloped can take this issue very seriously. This week alone I have heard 3 cases of buyers running into "error message" during checkout. Sellers were able to know because it was an outbound . Inbound sellers won't know this, you won't just have sales and that's it.

Then, America is very large market and many of them will prefer AMEX mode of payment, which doesn't work with Undeveloped.
Are we not loosing out based on this? Opportunity to sell some names will come once and might never repeat itself again.
There are issues behind the scene many of us don't know.
A friend had to temporary switch his nameserver to namesilo.com to complete a deal. This is a serious case

Any system can develop errors , bug or whatever, but the ability to identify and address issues on time makes you stand out

YairDD · Apr 30, 2019

Just wanted to use this thread and the fact that Reza reads it to say - I love Undeveloped, gets me more conversions than any other platform.

DAN.COM · Apr 30, 2019

Haykay2005 said:
I will be so glad if @Undeveloped can take this issue very seriously. This week alone I have heard 3 cases of buyers running into "error message" during checkout. Sellers were able to know because it was an outbound . Inbound sellers won't know this, you won't just have sales and that's it.

Then, America is very large market and many of them will prefer AMEX mode of payment, which doesn't work with Undeveloped.
Are we not loosing out based on this? Opportunity to sell some names will come once and might never repeat itself again.
There are issues behind the scene many of us don't know.
A friend had to temporary switch his nameserver to namesilo.com to complete a deal. This is a serious case

Any system can develop errors , bug or whatever, but the ability to identify and address issues on time makes you stand out

Hi Haykay,

We take issues that have to be taken serious but non-issues not so.

Stop spreading nonsense based on your own assumptions and or that of your friends. You've been doing this more frequently and that's why I kept ignoring your messages.

There are no technical issues present, all technical issues that users notify us of are always resolved immediately by a senior dev. When did you contact us again and mention that there's a technical issue at checkout? I haven't seen it or heard about it.

All marketplaces that accept Amex, are footing you the bill when they get hit with a chargeback. Amex offers zero protection and that's why we'll never accept Amex anymore. It's not going to happen and not a single deal is lost because we don't offer Amex. We also operate without Amex for years, just because someone raised this topic made it relevant for you, which shows what you base your posts on.

To conclude, if you really think we'd leave money on the table by having technical issues at checkout you seriously underestimate our intelligence. Every single sale that bounces, results in less revenue for us as well so to assume that we're ignoring serious issues is laughable at best.

Kind regards,

Reza

DAN.COM · Apr 30, 2019

alcy said:
same for crypto payouts right? realtime?

Hi Alcy,

Indeed!

Kind regards,

Reza

OIO · Apr 30, 2019

Haykay2005 said:
I will be so glad if @Undeveloped can take this issue very seriously. This week alone I have heard 3 cases of buyers running into "error message" during checkout. Sellers were able to know because it was an outbound . Inbound sellers won't know this, you won't just have sales and that's it.

Then, America is very large market and many of them will prefer AMEX mode of payment, which doesn't work with Undeveloped.
Are we not loosing out based on this? Opportunity to sell some names will come once and might never repeat itself again.
There are issues behind the scene many of us don't know.
A friend had to temporary switch his nameserver to namesilo.com to complete a deal. This is a serious case

Any system can develop errors , bug or whatever, but the ability to identify and address issues on time makes you stand out

True any system can develop errors, downtime, bug but what is happening here is a situation where any time a buyer tries to use AMEX, they are immediately slapped with an error page. Imagine a hundred customers tries to buy with AMEX at undeveloped in a day and all of them got slapped with that error. Thats just not good at all. Thats a settings problem and not downtime or whatever.

A proper page indicating they dont accept AMEX but you may proceed with the following payment method" will be better instead of error pages

Haykay2005 · Apr 30, 2019

Undeveloped said:
Hi Haykay,

We take issues that have to be taken serious but non-issues not so.

Stop spreading nonsense based on your own assumptions and or that of your friends. You've been doing this more frequently and that's why I kept ignoring your messages.

There are no technical issues present, all technical issues that users notify us of are always resolved immediately by a senior dev. When did you contact us again and mention that there's a technical issue at checkout? I haven't seen it or heard about it.

All marketplaces that accept Amex, are footing you the bill when they get hit with a chargeback. Amex offers zero protection and that's why we'll never accept Amex anymore. It's not going to happen and not a single deal is lost because we don't offer Amex. We also operate without Amex for years, just because someone raised this topic made it relevant for you, which shows what you base your posts on.

To conclude, if you really think we'd leave money on the table by having technical issues at checkout you seriously underestimate our intelligence. Every single sale that bounces, results in less revenue for us as well so to assume that we're ignoring serious issues is laughable at best.

Kind regards,

Reza

I never sent you messages that you ignored and if you think telling you what is wrong Is tantamount to having bad intentions towards your business, so be it.
I have noticed you hate been criticized. Am sure similar issues will soon be raised and your eyes will be clearly open

DAN.COM · Apr 30, 2019

sbweb said:
One thing I don't get is when I point the nameservers to Undeveloped for a domain, and someone else claims it, their page shows up instead of mine. If I'm pointing to their DNS, shouldn't that prove my ownership? This seems to be a frequent occurrence.

Hi SBWeb,

The problem is that domains change hands quite often. So a former owner can still have the domain listed in his/her account while he/she doesn't park and or own the domain anymore.

When you then park the domain with us and the domain is still listed with the former owner, his details will show simply because the domain is listed in that account.

The domain has to first transfer to your account so our system will grab your settings to load the custom for sale page.

There's still plenty room for improvement, for example, what's planned is to auto-delete domains that aren't active anymore. This way we can clean up our inventory better.

Kind regards,

Reza

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