discuss Can One "World-Class" Company Help Fix The Reputation Of .xyz?

~ The 34 Year Buzz!! said:

Do you think a single "huge" site can improve the tainted (generally spammy) reputation of .xyz?

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Curious to know, based on what data, what makes you assume that XYZ has a spammy reputation? Not even listed in the top 10 most abused TLDs with SpamHaus.

.XYZ has a good reputation. There is no need of some registrar to boost its reputation.

As others have mentioned the premises in OP are incorrect. For years .xyz have had very respectable lack of abuse, generally slightly better than .com/.net (vary over dates). Today they are 0.63 on Spamhaus score vs .com at 0.89 (lower better). They also have decent real world use. Yes significant West use them for their English language site and more impressive Alphabet do, but .xyz as an extension is doing just fine without that push. West do have great renewal prices on a number of extensions, no secret to those informed about new extensions.

Bob

It will never be a professional extension. It's ok for prank sites but nothing serious.

Kate said:

It will never be a professional extension. It's ok for prank sites but nothing serious.

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Better not tell the world's 5th largest company that use it for their investor relations!
(or for that matter the 2233 Alexa 1M sites on it)

The only relevant metric is how many of those sites you (or I) visit on a regular basis. For me: zero.

Even the people praising new extensions usually refrain from using them for serious purposes, that is for their bread and butter business activity.
Even an old, established and fairly sizable extension like .biz is shunned by end users and domainers. Yet it's light years ahead of .xyz or .whatever. If the consensus is that .biz sucks, then the logical conclusion is that .xyz and siblings are worse, truly horrible and unfit for serious projects.

Bob Hawkes said:

Better not tell the world's 5th largest company that use it for their investor relations!
(or for that matter the 2233 Alexa 1M sites on it)

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Google using it has less to do with the extension and more to do with a complete and meaningful string. Most all of the largest NewG sales are when a complete string is formed. When the keyword is in harmony with the extension making for a meaningful combination.

NewG's are very risky, but by only focusing on the extension the risk is multiplied.

I feel for all those people who paid 5-6 figures for those numeric names, during the chip hype.

I wonder how all those multi million dollar contracts signed by gtld operators ended up?

I don't knew what end-user think about it but personally I developed one .xyz domain into full funactionable website & earned more than $1k from adsense revenue. I never got penalized, the site was ranked first for many of keywords & I reunied my .com competitor.

I should also maybe explain why I dislike certain extensions like .top or .xyz, it's because the registries are spammers or behave unethically. .xyz is immature and will never be a professional extension with the current management team eg:
http://domainincite.com/24087-xyz-weighs-into-epik-controversy-with-monster-fundraising-domain

As someone invested in domains, I notice company domain names in the real world. Occasionally I have come across usage of some of the newer extensions but generally they are not the type of domains an investor would register - two-words + extension or combinations that are not very logical - basically the end user did not want to spend money on a domain and they found something for reg fee. Their poor domain choice certainly hurts their branding and time tell what effect it has on their business (developers deny the importance of a domain name). However, I do not believe I have ever actually seen a .xyz domain being used for anything. Recently when coming back home from a workout I noticed a landscaping company with a three-word .net. Guess what? IEven though that was just a few days ago I cannot recall the name - not very memorable. Just yesterday I had a conversation with a startup operating on a two-word .CO - a common choice for startups but a mistake imo if they want to grow beyond being a startup. But I never see .xyz being used. It is a crap extension which never made any sense. .Biz and .Info make far more sense than .xyz yet at this point .Biz and .Info are not extensions investors aggressively bid on - almost non-existent demand. So why would you invest in mosquito-infested swampland?

~ The 34 Year Buzz!! said:

Their "Western World" site is west.xyz

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The only one website I know and visit in this TLD...
And because I'm a domainer.

It is not comparable to .info and even .biz at all.
And if these TLDs are not popular in North America - this doesn't mean they are not widely used in Europe.

Nick V said:

Curious to know, based on what data, what makes you assume that XYZ has a spammy reputation? Not even listed in the top 10 most abused TLDs with SpamHaus.

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I saw it here at Namepros, in the same topic someone claimed "abc.xyz was the only good one ever reg'ed". I was mistaken for believing their mistake. Apologies to the once misunderstood .XYZ

The xyz registry needs to pay for their behavior. I have invested in .xyz, but the reality has hit me. In the end, I found out that the vulgar marketing of the xyz registry's pursuit of registration led to the current situation. I wouldn't be surprised if a startup chooses xyz because the startup needs to control costs.

Poo extension

wwwweb said:

I feel for all those people who paid 5-6 figures for those numeric names, during the chip hype.

I wonder how all those multi million dollar contracts signed by gtld operators ended up?

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They were fake sales, like a lot of the .top sale. Even many .com Chinese sales were faked around that time.

Paris is available for $2xx yearly - and no buyers...

Jurgen Wolf said:

Paris is available for $2xx yearly - and no buyers...

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That literally means nothing.

Then ~2M domains mean nothing.

Jurgen Wolf said:

Then ~2M domains mean nothing.

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I think you misunderstood.

Saying "paris.xyz hasn't been registered", is meaningless.

For you - maybe...
For me - it is just one more indicator...