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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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I dont understand context of your reply, Can you elaborate your point, please?

See my post on previous page:

Actually he might see two devils, the one who made the original insult, and the one who made sure to keep the subject alive in two of his posts after everyone elses comments were deleted.
 
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Can you blame Rob for thinking that there is a Devil.

a stupid guy posting nonsense out of whatever boredom
is NOT a devil
or devil sent

but just a stupid guy

the devil exists only in the mind of people
who can't be asked to think a little

it makes life easier
and makes it easier to manipulate people

that's the whole purpose of the devil concept

don't get fooled
life is more complex
 
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Actually he might see two devils, the one who made the original insult, and the one who made sure to keep the subject alive in two of his posts after everyone elses comments were deleted.

This is a very insulting and intolerant post. @Mohammad has shown to be a humble person that acknowledges his mistake. For you to compare him to the Devil is utterly disgusting. Who are you? Please go away.
 
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...And on the ambiguity of privacy this: Epik is describing itself as "The Swiss Bank of Domains." I had to go to google to work out that Epik is not a Swiss company.
I remember recommending Epik on another, hosting related forum a year or two back and some people took issue, suggesting that Epik looks scammy, purpoting to be a Swiss company, but not being one. Interesting and not altogether unwarranted reaction of people who'd never heard of Epik before. I'd planned to bring this to Rob's attention, but never got around to it... so, tagging @Rob Monster here now.

Full disclosure: I own the swissbankofdomains.com domain, great for any number of domaining projects, a security conscious ICANN accredited registrar amongst them. But I would never dream suggesting I'm Swiss based, that is actually putting it to use... until I registered a business in Switzerland (or more likely in Liechtenstein), that is :sneaky:

Now what does Swiss Bank suggest? Privacy, security, reliability. Well, it used to, and it was known as a place people hid money in numbered accounts, especially to hide it from the taxman. Changes in the law and mass IT leaking have changed that - Swiss banks are way more transparent to the taxman now, and when people jokingly saying someone probably has a Swiss bank account it is a shorthand way of saying they are probably corrupt.
So the Swiss Bank slogan could also be heard as "Welcome tax evaders" especially when you suggested here that your Escrow service could be tax free.
You do have a point there, as far as it goes. But we're not talking about a real bank here. It is obvious to anyone with half a brain that Epik's not purpoting to run a licensed financial institution. In this respect, the slogan or name "Swiss Bank of Domains" is synonymous with a safe heaven for... your domains! And not your ill gotten, corrupt wealth :xf.wink:
 
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See my post on previous page.
You came out of no where to ask me that Should I blame Rob for believing in existence of Devil. And I didnt find anything conclusive in your previous posts to understand context of your reply.
 
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See my post on previous page:
And I reacted to Mohammad's insult towards Rob same way as I reacted to Rob's tweet. Rob accepted his mistake and made an apology, I appreciate that and was thankful to Rob for that post. Same way Mohammad apologised too and deleted his comment so I edited my comment. I would have edited out my posts toward Rob too but there is a timelimit for editing your posts so I cant. But I still dont understand you venting out your anger on me! and calling a human a Devil even after he was sorry and deleted his post!
 
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And I reacted to Mohammad's insult towards Rob same way as I reacted to Rob's tweet. Rob accepted his mistake and made an apology, I appreciate that and was thankful to Rob for that post. Same way Mohammad apologised too and deleted his comment so I edited my comment. I would have edited out my posts toward Rob too but there is a timelimit for editing your posts so I cant. But I still dont understand you venting out your anger on me! and calling a human a Devil even after he was sorry and deleted his post!

@oldtimer started out as this wise old person. But quickly took a very dark position. It is hard to tell who is who here. You seem like an honest, decent person. Can you post the link to Rob’s apology?
 
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As I reflected on the past week, I realize my actions last weekend offended some. My intent was never to offend. To those who were offended by my actions, I apologize to you.
This post is in another thread in namepros titled free speech started by Bernard Wright @Tom K
 
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Epik is describing itself as "The Swiss Bank of Domains." I had to go to google to work out that Epik is not a Swiss company. Now what does Swiss Bank suggest? Privacy, security, reliability.

 
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I did not call anyone Devil,

Rob had mentioned in this thread earlier that he believed that there was a Devil, he as religion person being insulted in such distasteful manner as was done here is going to reinforce his belief that there are some evil forces at play in the world. So I personally am accusing no one, I am just saying that you can’t blame Rob for the way he thinks about certain things when some people behave so viscously towards him.
 
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I did not call anyone Devil,

Rob had mentioned in this thread earlier that he believed that there was a Devil, he as religion person being insulted in such distasteful manner as was done here is going to reinforce his belief that there are some evil forces at play in the world. So I personally am accusing no one, I am just saying that you can’t blame Rob for the way he thinks about certain things when some people behave so viscously towards him.

Actually he might see two devils, the one who made the original insult, and the one who made sure to keep the subject alive in two of his posts after everyone elses comments were deleted.

You know, you don’t really sound as an “old timer”.
 
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Fair enough. I am disgusted with this topic and this forum as well (maybe for different reasons, maybe not).

Usually when one spends too much time on a particular topic, especially one such as this, the sentiments toward the forum seem to be negative.

Perhaps try exploring elsewhere. NamePros.com/News is a good place to start.
 
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Usually when one spends too much time on a particular topic, especially one such as this, the sentiments toward the forum seem to be negative.

Perhaps try exploring elsewhere. NamePros.com/News is a good place to start.

Nope. Not in this case. But thanks.
 
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Did you actually watch the video? It explains why it pays to be neutral.

Since 1815, Switzerland has managed to stay neutral. They also managed to stay out of the EU. The citizens have guns but they did not fight in wars. They never had to and don't desire to. That makes sense to me. More countries should be like Switzerland -- it is among the most prosperous in the world and the skiing is amazing.

Epik, as a company, is neutral. We welcome clients of all views who are lawfully engaged to participate on the Internet. And if Epik moves, we are moving to Switzerland. Our new CTO, is eligible for Swiss citizenship and is scheduled to scout for locations in Switzerland right after Cloudfest, now in progress.
 
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Since 1815, Switzerland has managed to stay neutral. They also managed to stay out of the EU. The citizens have guns but they did not fight in wars. They never had to and don't desire to. That makes sense to me. More countries should be like Switzerland -- it is among the most prosperous in the world and the skiing is amazing.

when you dig a little deeper you may find that the German leaders in world war II used Switzerland's banks to securely store the stolen treasures.

So they had a profound interest to keep Switzerland intact.

- as far I know -- hearsay -


https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/14/world/swiss-acknowledge-profiting-from-nazi-gold.html

"Under pressure to explain its financial dealings with Nazi Germany, the Swiss National Bank publicly acknowledged today that it had made a profit on its wartime dealings in gold bullion with the German central bank. And for the first time, it gave an estimate of its gains: 20 million Swiss francs."

"At today's news conference, Mr. Roth said Swiss profits on trade in bullion with the German central bank totaled an estimated 20 million Swiss francs in commissions on a total wartime trade of 1.2 billion Swiss francs."

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He said Mr. Roth had explained that Switzerland was trading with Nazi Germany as the price of its effort to prevent Nazi occupation. At the time, Switzerland was encircled by Nazi-occupied countries.

''Both the Allies and the Germans had an interest in a free Swiss franc market,'' Mr Abegg said. He quoted Mr. Roth as saying in Zurich today that Switzerland's wartime ''dealings with the Allies were higher'' than those acknowledged with Germany. But he said he was unable to provide figures for those transactions."


https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/nazi-gold_swiss-bank-money-repaid-to-holocaust-victims/34822348

"Previous reports have said Nazi Germany looted gold from the central banks of countries it occupied to finance its war effort. By most accounts, the stolen gold was first gathered together in Berlin and stamped as German gold before being shipped to Switzerland."

"A commission led by historian Jean-François Bergier was established by the Swiss government to undertake an investigation into various aspects of Swiss conduct during and after the war. It found evidence of the Swiss central bank buying Nazi gold and Jewish refugees being turned away from Swiss borders."
 
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And if Epik moves, we are moving to Switzerland

Moving!?!? Think about it...you have to find boxes, get over priced packaging tape, have yard sales, rent a truck (at least to get to/from airport and/or dock) put in a address change with the post office, stop newspaper delivery, etc.etc.etc.

It would be best if you just stay in the US. If you do relocate, I can show you some nice spots on the east coast! :xf.smile:
 
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And if Epik moves, we are moving to Switzerland. Our new CTO, is eligible for Swiss citizenship and is scheduled to scout for locations in Switzerland right after Cloudfest, now in progress.

moves?
 
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Good point. Two entirely different things that rarely go hand in hand.

I'm with Rob on this one. It's been pretty well established that penalizing abortion in Poland simply pushed it underground or (for the better situated) abroad. There is really no way to know if there has been any drop in the number of abortions, or perhaps increase thereof, because there are no reliable statistics (never mind the official ones, which have nothing to do with reality). My point is the same as Rob's: sweeping garbage under the carpet does not a clean house make. On the contrary, things are more likely as not to grow and ferment there, out of sight, with no one in the mainstream the wiser. Until the rot eats through the carpet and... somebody gets himself an automatic rifle and vents his quietly accumulated frustrations on innocent people in a mosque. Or a catholic church. Or a public school.

Extremist narrative is not the problem. We've got bigger problems. Unwelcome and dangerous narratives are pushed upon us by various governments every day, or haven't you noticed? One good example in the US is the narrative about "dirty, criminal, rapist latinos invading good, clean America" and how America will not survive this unless there is the wall. In Poland, the PIS goverment is hard at work winning hearts and minds (read: votes!) with classic scare tactic narrative about "dirty, criminal, terrorist migrants, most of them bringing with them dangerous diseases" and how they are the only ones in the 1,000+ year history of Poland who are ready, willing and able to stop this "invasion". Rob has already mentioned the "Social Credit Score" system in China, but not living in China, he wasn't subject to the accompanying propaganda campaign, narrative about how successful and good for the People this system is and... how it will be expanded. Do you think this is bad, but nothing to do with you? Just wait till a future US government takes a page from China's Playbook. And in the meantime, worry (or applaud!) the narratives being pushed by more than one candidate running for President about the need for major wealth redistribution, how else, by taxing the hell out of the rich, so as to allow, who else, the government to more fairly distribute the wealth amongst the People...

I'm just picking and choosing. There are many other such dangerous ideas and narratives pushed upon us every single day. I'm really more concerned about these narratives, government sanctioned, or likely to be sanctioned and implemented in the near future. My point is: compared to this, marginalized right wing, or left wing extremists, foaming at their mouths are of no concern whatsoever. By all means, allow them to vent; let them push their narratives upon us; give the "Five Eyes" a better chance to invigilate them and forestall tragic incidents like the one in Christchurch. Instead of scrambling to save their collective asses by, what else, a new narrative... guns are very bad! We are pushing for new legislation to further curtail peoples' freedoms, but for the good of the People... we're banning all rifles in the country, legislation to be introduced within 4 weeks! Wow, ain't that somethin'? (n)

An impressively articulated voice of reason. Since I cannot give you 5000 Likes, I extend my blessings to you and yours. May your voice never be forgotten in this industry and beyond.
 
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What cop out? I stand by everything I've said.

The only person saying "Left wing activists made me do it" is you. Since I never said any such thing, you can argue with yourself.

He often does.
 
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@Rob Monster

I hope we can be friends even though my intellect far surpasses your childish and ignorant psycho babble. I do like you, even though I believe that you are truly only worthy of serving me and those like me. Although you are unable to form thoughts and make decisions that are logical, I believe you should be allowed to exist. If for any reason, because I believe even the lowest forms of life deserve to exist.

Now, please be neutral about my assertions. I could be right. I could be wrong. I suppose you will have no opinion.

I hope you know that I am a Christian and I don't mean to offend you. I hope that, based on your statements, you will truly understand that I could be right.

And by the way, I am a completely civil and loving person. Just because I might view you as a weak mind, doesn't mean I think you are a bad person. Just means I believe you exist with no real purpose and that you unnecessary.

And by the way, I know you support me, and by extension, my statements above. Right?
 
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An impressively articulated voice of reason. Since I cannot give you 5000 Likes, I extend my blessings to you and yours. May your voice never be forgotten in this industry and beyond.
And as you said, I extend my blessings to you and yours.
 
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@Rob Monster

I hope we can be friends even though my intellect far surpasses your childish and ignorant psycho babble. I do like you, even though I believe that you are truly only worthy of serving me and those like me. Although you are unable to form thoughts and make decisions that are logical, I believe you should be allowed to exist. If for any reason, because I believe even the lowest forms of life deserve to exist.

Now, please be neutral about my assertions. I could be right. I could be wrong. I suppose you will have no opinion.

I hope you know that I am a Christian and I don't mean to offend you. I hope that, based on your statements, you will truly understand that I could be right.

And by the way, I am a completely civil and loving person. Just because I might view you as a weak mind, doesn't mean I think you are a bad person. Just means I believe you exist with no real purpose and that you unnecessary.

And by the way, I know you support me, and by extension, my statements above. Right?


wow
 
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Thank you for the compliment,

I admire your strong belief in your faith and I know that you have people of different race, religion, and gender working at your company that you get along with fine at a professional level, I like to know if I were a black pastor would I be welcomed in your home not for business, but for doing worship and bible study.

Yes, of course.

Last weekend, my wife and I housed a gay couple at our home for the long weekend. The one is a long-time friend of my wife -- they worked together right out of college and stayed friends through the years. He one is Mexican. His new husband is Spanish. I hugged them both, welcomed them into our home, showed them the city and organized a dinner with our 5 kids for the occasion of our youngest daughter's birthday. I even dressed like a hipster that weekend though it is not my go-to style, frankly. You get the idea. As you likely know, there are fundamentalist Christians that would cite Bible verses saying one should not have such fellowship, to which I say, nonsense. After all, Jesus Christ hung out with all types.

On the other hand, my neighbor is black, and married to a white woman. Since the Gab incident, he no longer talks to me. I still wave to him, greet him with a smile. His kids play in our back yard. We are still friends on Facebook but he thinks I have something against him because some liberal media told him that I am this, that and the other. As he whizzed by me this morning while out walking the dogs, I prayed for him. All will be revealed in eternity, and he will know that I did not love him any less and I regret that standing for free speech caused him to doubt my intentions. All the kids in the neighborhood know I am the same "Mr. Monster" who welcomes all.

Anyone who knows me, knows the truth. The media propaganda that is being fomented by the SPLC that portrays me as being hateful is a lie, and they fully know it. Unfortunately for them, they can't unperson me fast enough and more people will wake up as a result.
 
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