The USA Political Thread

mr-x said:

I don't know.

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If he does, then it has to be released or it will never go away, it'll make it seem like he's hiding something. Put it out there, the majority of Americans want to see it.

Barr has Cherry Picked the Mueller report for Trumps benefit.
The summary was written without Mueller's consent.

mr-x said:

Democrats and progressives have been on CNN and MSNBC and strait up lying about what to expect from the Muller investigation for two years.,

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What Exactly did they lie about? Show me these lies.

lennco said:

So you are saying Trump shouldn't be held accountable for any crimes he may have committed before he was president?

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Democrats will always find something to complain. Same as with Republicans about Clinton’s Lewinsky impeachment mess.

Keep digging. Keep stewing in your anger. I don’t really care about anything other than an Economic prosperous situation for us all. The economy will continue to fly potentially if this mess is forgotten. Increasing propaganda and division and impeachment isn’t good for the country. Everybody is hurt.

You guys can keep complaining all the way until November 2020 when he wins a 2nd term, that is unless you import enough illegal aliens to vote and turn the US socialist and go broke. When he wins 2020, there will be additional investigations. Beto will pay his constiuents to cut holes in the fence. Pelosi will move to spend money to help Adam Schiff to go on and on investigating.
This is never going to end.

Go have a beer and make a toast to Hillary, she won it seems- she and her husband are the criminals that walked, rich. Carter Page and others are broke.

offthehandle said:

Democrats will always find something to complain. Same as with Republicans about Clinton’s Lewinsky impeachment mess.

Keep digging. Keep stewing in your anger. I don’t really care about anything other than an Economic prosperous situation for us all. The economy will continue to fly potentially if this mess is forgotten. Increasing propaganda and division and impeachment isn’t good for the country. Everybody is hurt.

You guys can keep complaining all the way until November 2020 when he wins a 2nd term, that is unless you import enough illegal aliens to vote and turn the US socialist and go broke. When he wins 2020, there will be additional investigations. Beto will pay his constiuents to cut holes in the fence. Pelosi will move to spend money to help Adam Schiff to go on and on investigating.
This is never going to end.

Go have a beer and make a toast to Hillary, she won it seems- she and her husband are the criminals that walked, rich. Carter Page and others are broke.

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So that's a Yes.

lennco said:

So that's a Yes.

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I said I don’t care. If he is guilty of some tax thing from 30 years ago, or his Casino bankruptcies, or anything outside of government work its nothing to do with being the President. Obama covered up all his past records to be sealed. All past Presidents if put under a microscope have issues. None are exempt. Same with all of Congress.

If you read my posts, I attack Bushes too, Precott and the Nazi Banking- a corrupt family from birth. Illgotten wealth. Same with Kennedys and insider trading and bootlegging. Did all of them do a few good things? Sure. The Space Program for example was Kennedy and Govt approved funding, also based upon a “Russian threat”.

lennco said:

So you are saying Trump shouldn't be held accountable for any crimes he may have committed before he was president?

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Should we hold crooked Hillary accountable for selling Russia 20% of our uranium?

offthehandle said:

I said I don’t care. If he is guilty of some tax thing from 30 years ago, or his Casino bankruptcies, or anything outside of government work its nothing to do with being the President. Obama covered up all his past records to be sealed. All past Presidents if put under a microscope have issues. None are exempt. Same with all of Congress.

If you read my posts, I attack Bushes too, Precott and the Nazi Banking- a corrupt family from birth. Illgotten wealth. Same with Kennedys and insider trading and bootlegging. Did all of them do a few good things? Sure. The Space Program for example was Kennedy and Govt approved funding, also based upon a “Russian threat”.

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SirDrago said:

Should we hold crooked Hillary accountable for selling Russia 20% of our uranium?

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If a Crime has been committed by ANYONE, current president, past presidents or future presidents then they should be held accountable...Period!

My god what is with you people?
If Hilary deserves to go to jail for something then send her ass to jail.

This "I don't care" attitude is shameful.

They are talking about Trump pardoning Manafort, I sure hope he does not, 100% disagree if he does that- that would be totally wrong. Manafort hid lot's of assets, etc.

SirDrago said:

Should we hold crooked Hillary accountable for selling Russia 20% of our uranium?

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https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

JB Lions said:

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/facts-uranium-one/

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The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren’t publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after the Times story, the foundation acknowledged that it “made mistakes,” saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company.

"Made mistakes" in Demoncrat language means "stole and cheated".
That quote above is from your posted link.

SirDrago said:

The donations from those with ties to Uranium One weren’t publicly disclosed by the Clinton Foundation, even though Hillary Clinton had an agreement with the White House that the foundation would disclose all contributors. Days after the Times story, the foundation acknowledged that it “made mistakes,” saying it had disclosed donations from a Canadian charity, for instance, but not the donors to that charity who were associated with the uranium company.

"Made mistakes" in Demoncrat language means "stole and cheated".
That quote above is from your posted link.

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"The Committee on Foreign Investments has nine members, including the secretaries of the treasury, state, defense, homeland security, commerce and energy; the attorney general; and representatives from two White House offices (the United States Trade Representative and the Office of Science and Technology Policy)."

"We don’t even know if Clinton was involved in the committee’s review and approval of the uranium deal. Jose Fernandez, a former assistant secretary of state, told the New York Times that he represented the department on the committee. “Mrs. Clinton never intervened with me on any C.F.I.U.S. matter,” he told the Times, referring to the committee by its acronym."

It's like when you guys continually bring up Benghazi, even after she was cleared by multiple Republican-led committees.

@JB Lions

The evidence was compiled as Secretary Clinton courted Russia for better relations, as her husband former President Clinton collected a $500,000 speech payday in Moscow, and as the Obama administration approved the sale of a U.S. mining company, Uranium One, to Rosatom.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...f-memos-about-russia-clintons-and-uranium-one

lennco said:

past presidents or future presidents then they should be held accountable...Period!

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Where is your fairness and call to investigation on Hillary? The fake FISA and Dossier mess.

Past Presidents? So based on that logic, should we try Jeb Bush for his grandfather? Or some 5th generation removed Kennedy? That makes no sense. People are dead and gone.

lennco said:

This "I don't care" attitude is shameful.

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Shameful, lo que sea. I don't live there remember?, so really the only reason I watch the news is my free speech and economic interest and future continuation of it.

I only got involved in this political snake pit and watching news and even discussion here because I like Trumps ideas and policy, I believe it increases wealth in the private sector.

I don't have to like his past or present- but being a capitalist- I care about my own economic prosperity- and you should too. Capitalism is somewhat selfish if you study it. We all are guilty of caring about our future finances. If the economy rocks, we all benefit. Trade is increased, people pay taxes and spend money. Everybody benefits when positive consumer sentiment continues.

You can police your neighbors and politicians looking, meanwhile screw up consumer sentiment and create socialist thinking with the ilk of the new (3) female stooges elected recently. Nobody here that is liberal seems to be interested in the take over of big tech on the economy either- you guys applaud Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc. I question all of it. Very complicated situation we have allowed our freedom to be dictated in. Sure we can boycott it, and where I can I do. I also use Duck. I buy locally where available.

I pay and report income taxes there back into your soil, and receive virtually nothing in return.

I'm writing my congressman, requesting an investigation into President Barack Obama's obstruction of justice when he ordered the DOJ and FBI to stop investigating Hillary Clinton for gross negligence handling classified information.

U.S.-Backed Forces Declare Victory Over ISIS In Syria After Last Stronghold Falls.

Good news for all sides of the isle.

Mission accomplished, that sounds familiar.
Last time I heard that, it was during the 2003 intervention which paved the way for more disaster.

Donald Trump Jr.‏Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr 2h 2 hours ago
Has anyone heard from slimy Adam #fullofschiff Schiff today? I mean it must be embarrassing to have have spent the last 2 years as the leader of the tinfoil hat brigade and have it all come crashing down so quick.

I’m legitimately concerned for his mental state.

Glenn Greenwald‏ Verified account @ggreenwald 3h 3 hours ago
Glenn Greenwald Retweeted Michael Tracey

MSNBC hosts should collectively go on the air, bow their heads in shame, and apologize to the public for what they've done. Outlets should fire the ex-CIA, NSA and Pentagon officials who used their disinformation training to help these "news agencies" mislead everyone:

Michael Tracey‏Verified account @mtracey
I don’t want to gloat. I’m not happy about this. I’m furious at how utterly the media disgraced itself and deceived the American people

The difference is: when someone says that Grump is pure as the driven snow and everything posted against him is “fake news” - these are extremists who may be ignored. Ignorant types. Easily discounted.

However on the other side I’m not saying that Grump is an out and out criminal. I’m saying that he committed crimes. This is a more moderate view and espoused by the vast majority of the country too.

The truth is rarely all the way at one extreme, but according to these “four legs good, two legs bad!” types - it is.

Donald Trump Jr.‏ Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr 3h 3 hours ago
Donald Trump Jr. Retweeted BNL NEWS

That’s one hell of an idea. How this farce started and snowballed based on the actions of unelected bureaucrats into one the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on America should be discovered. Those responsible should be held accountable for this stain on American Democracy.

BNL NEWS‏ @BreakingNLive
BREAKING NEWS: President Trump calls for an investigation of the investigators, asserting "This was an illegal take down that failed."

Paul Sperry‏ @paulsperry_ 3h 3 hours ago
After Special Counsel Mueller issued 2,800 subpoenas & 500 search warrants, the facts & truth are now clear: Trump & his campaign did not conspire or coordinate with Russia. So why did Comey, McCabe & Strzok launch the investigation in first place?
Only 1 answer: TO SET TRUMP UP