What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

topdom said:

If MSM attacks you, probably you are a good guy, or enemy of evil guys, or you were their puppet and they don't need you anymore.

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topdom said:

Huffpost must have an agenda here

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Very convincing arguments

I have been silent on this thread. Just to comment here:

- At no point did l call it a hoax. Those who say I did are relying on hearsay. I have no doubt that people died and for those families who are impacted, I extend heartfelt condolences.

- In my Tweet, which was strategically baited by the SPLC, I acknowledged that the video had inconsistencies. The video raises questions that deserve answers.

- I deleted my personal Twitter account. I did this not because I have something to hide, but because I have better things to do than to be an apologist for free speech, or to be a punching bag for the SPLC brigade.

- I appreciate that the topic being discussed is sensitive and that many have deeply-rooted views about civil liberties. I have read all of your comments. I am disappointed by some of what I read but hold no grudges.

- On a personal note, I am of sound mind and focused on clients. I look forward to providing world class solutions for registrar, domains monetization, hosting, DDoS mitigation, Content Delivery and SSL.

For anyone seeking to understand the sequence of events in NZ that raised questions, here is a recent non-gory video with zero tracking that provides context on why people are looking into this issue:

https://video.watchmask.com/vid/watchmask/Greg Reese_6p-_hk_fOEQ/video.html

For those who wish to continue to condemn me for defying censorship, allowing free speech, and enabling citizen journalism, you are absolutely free to do so. However before you do that, consider three things:

(1) As recently as last month, the mainstream media got the news of Covington Catholic completely wrong. It was the existence of incontrovertible independent video evidence that unwound the official narrative.

(2) The alleged perpetrator in ChristChurch is still awaiting arraignment let alone a trial -- his arraignment was actually postponed at least once.

(3) Whether you acknowledge it or not, there really is an all-knowing, all-seeing and all-powerful creator God. The Bible remind us of this important context:

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. - Matthew 12:36

All the best. I leave you all my contact info below. If you want to be heard or feel the need to vent, you are free to get in touch.

Regards,
Robert W. Monster
Founder and CEO
Epik Holdings Inc.

Email: [email protected]
Tel: +1.425-765-0077
Skype: robertmonster
WhatsApp:+1.425-765-0077
Signal: +1.425-765-0077
Telegram: robmonster

Internet.Domains said:

Did Rob say that? Did he say "staged"?

One last time, he seemed to question some oddities. Oddities that have many possible explanations besides calling it "staged" or a "hoax.".....Yes, I know @Slanted had implied Rob did that. Although, I have seen no evidence as such.

Yes, my defense of Rob looks unjustified when @Slanted calls it a "hoax."

So can we get one simple answer. Just one.

Did Rob call it a "hoax?"

It's a "yes"or "no" question. No need to turn this into a word salad.

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Let me answer that for you: No.

This needs some clarification though. The wording Rob used implied it was a hoax but nowhere did he use that exact wording. People may as well have said he called it fake news, a prank or anything similar. Does that make it less offensive? No.

What saddens me is that people pretend to quote what he said but choose wording with a bigger impact than what was actually said. They could've made the scale tip the other way and said he was questioning the validity of the video. Would that make it less offensive? Ofcourse not!. But when you pretend to quote someone, make sure you're actually quoting him. Wording matters.

The same goes for that HuffintonPost article. I don't know the newspaper(?) and doubt it's somewhere near a tabloid magazine. That article however shows so much bias that it made me cringe.

I condemn what happened but at the same time cannot close my eyes for all the good that Rob has done for other people and the perseverance of an open and secure web (and no, not limited to right-wing supporters) and continues to do so.

White Helmets group created a chemical terror scene in Syria and blamed Assad. MSM and all the Western leaders blamed Assad as well. Trump was "not" different: he called Assad an animal (actually we are all animals). He ordered an attack as punishment. 100+ cruise missiles were fired. Noone died. There was no damage. Only 2/3 of missiles were shot down by antique russian defense systems owned by Syria. And Trump didn't say "if we were not going to do any damage why did we waste so many missiles". Actually if Russia didn't want such an attack, US wouldn't be able to fire these missiles. US ships could be made blind. Putin and Trump made fun of the deepstate. So although it looks like Trump does what the deepstate wants, the deep state and its msm still wants to get rid of Trump badly.

Time to turn the page and demand answers from the XYZ registry for using hate to fuel a charity campaign.

Internet.Domains said:

Time to turn the page and demand answers from the XYZ registry for using hate to fuel a charity campaign.

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Stop gaslighting and post from your real account.

Rob Monster said:

(3) Whether you acknowledge it or not, there really is an all-knowing, all-seeing and all-powerful creator God. The Bible remind us of this important context:

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. - Matthew 12:36

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Nope, that is just your belief which is fine.

However, just quoting scripture to someone who does not believe is like me quoting some book you don't believe. It is also pretty easy to cherry pick very damaging bible passages about slavery, women, etc. but I won't bother.

Brad

Rob Monster said:

I have been silent on this thread. Just to comment here:

- At no point did l call it a hoax. Those who say I did are relying on hearsay. I have no doubt that people died and for those families who are impacted, I extend heartfelt condolences.

- In my Tweet, which was strategically baited by the SPLC, I acknowledged that the video had inconsistencies. The video raises questions that deserve answers.

- I deleted my personal Twitter account. I did this not because I have something to hide, but because I have better things to do than to be an apologist for free speech, or to be a punching bag for the SPLC brigade.

- I appreciate that the topic being discussed is sensitive and that many have deeply-rooted views about civil liberties. I have read all of your comments. I am disappointed by some of what I read but hold no grudges.

- On a personal note, I am of sound mind and focused on clients. I look forward to providing world class solutions for registrar, domains monetization, hosting, DDoS mitigation, Content Delivery and SSL.

For anyone seeking to understand the sequence of events in NZ that raised questions, here is a recent non-gory video with zero tracking that provides context on why people are looking into this issue:

https://video.watchmask.com/vid/watchmask/Greg Reese_6p-_hk_fOEQ/video.html

For those who wish to continue to condemn me for defying censorship, allowing free speech, and enabling citizen journalism, you are absolutely free to do so. However before you do that, consider three things:

(1) As recently as last month, the mainstream media got the news of Covington Catholic completely wrong. It was the existence of incontrovertible independent video evidence that unwound the official narrative.

(2) The alleged perpetrator in ChristChurch is still awaiting arraignment let alone a trial -- his arraignment was actually postponed at least once.

(3) Whether you acknowledge it or not, there really is an all-knowing, all-seeing and all-powerful creator God. The Bible remind us of this important context:

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. - Matthew 12:36

All the best. I leave you all my contact info below. If you want to be heard or feel the need to vent, you are free to get in touch.

Regards,
Robert W. Monster
Founder and CEO
Epik Holdings Inc.

Email: [email protected]
Tel: +1.425-765-0077
Skype: robertmonster
WhatsApp:+1.425-765-0077
Signal: +1.425-765-0077
Telegram: robmonster

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@Rob Monster

Rob, I love you. But intentionally or not, you added gasoline to the fire. You posted a brand new conspiracy video? And invoked God, who the scriptures say IS LOVE? You need to find a different forum for this kind of stuff. We want to go back to doing business but if any end-users stumble on this forum, they will think we are (what's the famous expression?)... whack jobs.

Not good for the domaining business.

bmugford said:

Nope, that is just your belief which is fine.

However, just quoting scripture to someone who does not believe is like me quoting some book you don't believe. It is also pretty easy to cherry pick very damaging bible passages about slavery, women, etc. but I won't bother.

Brad

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Sure, I get that. I am just telling you the rules of the game just in case I am right. You see, the universe does have rules. And though I try not to break them I am resting in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ. That is my informed truth. That said, I completely accept that others think differently on these matters.

Just FYI, the Bible distinguishes between "knowledge" and "wisdom". Many have tremendous knowledge but lack wisdom. How do I know that? Well, the Bible defines wisdom rather narrowly "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom... " Proverbs 9:10

And yes, I get that it might appear to some Christian readers that I am casting "pearls before swine" (see Matthew 7:6) but since there are many readers of this thread perhaps it helps someone, eventually.

Tom K said:

@Rob Monster

Rob, I love you. But intentionally or not, you added gasoline to the fire. You posted a brand new conspiracy video? And invoked God, who the scriptures say IS LOVE? You need to find a different forum for this kind of stuff. We want to go back to doing business but if any end-users stumble on this forum, they will think we are (what's the famous expression?)... whack jobs.

Not good for the domaining business.

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Thanks Tom. Appreciate the love.

As for the thread, if @MapleDots wants to delete it, I won't object. That said, the thread does reveal a lot about a lot of people's views so I don't object to it. We are up to 11,000 views in just a few days -- that is almost half of what the Gab thread achieved. It would appear the train left the station.

As for the domaining business, I have said before that free speech and free commerce will determine the future of the domain industry. In a world where winner-takes-all, there will be very limited need for domains. That Orwellian scenario is closer than you think and is impacted by choices made by people in our industry.

You might be aware, I was at ICANN Kobe earlier this month. I am one of the main guys advocating for continued WHOIS privacy versus licensing certain entities to have unmitigated rights to peek through to determine the identity of domain owners. This is being discussed, and not all of it transparently.

At the end of the day, the public internet was intended to be decentralized. It empowers individuals to engage with content, community and commerce. It is an amazing to have been a tiny part of it. That said, if the censors and regulators overreach, decentralized solutions will go mainstream very quickly.

Rob Monster said:

Sure, I get that. I am just telling you the rules of the game just in case I am right. You see, the universe does have rules. And though I try not to break them I am resting in the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ. That is my informed truth. That said, I completely accept that others think differently on these matters.

Just FYI, the Bible distinguishes between "knowledge" and "wisdom". Many have tremendous knowledge but lack wisdom. How do I know that? Well, the Bible defines wisdom rather narrowly "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom... " Proverbs 9:10

And yes, I get that it might appear to some Christian readers that I am casting "pearls before swine" (see Matthew 7:6) but since there are many readers of this thread perhaps it helps someone, eventually.

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@Rob Monster could eventually leave Jesus out of this ?

frank-germany said:

@Rob Monster could eventually leave Jesus out of this ?

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I will do my best there Frank. Since the thread was apparently about me, I figured it was fair game especially after the HuffPo hit piece was referenced earlier in the thread. You see in my world view, there is a "Satan" and he really likes to control the narrative. Until you have gone down that rabbit hole yourself, it is hard to fully appreciate the context of what drives a guy to stand on principle even when it is not really convenient or lucrative to do so, at least when measured carnally/financially.

Rob Monster said:

Thanks Tom. Appreciate the love.

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Of course, I don't hate anyone. I can see you're sincere and listen to different point of views.

Rob Monster said:

As for the thread, if @MapleDots wants to delete it, I won't object. That said, the thread does reveal a lot about a lot of people's views so I don't object to it. We are up to 11,000 views in just a few days -- that is almost half of what the Gab thread achieved. It would appear the train left the station.

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As you know, nothing you put online can truly be deleted. So even if MapleDots decides to delete the thread, people will be able to find it.

Rob Monster said:

As for the domaining business, I have said before that free speech and free commerce will determine the future of the domain industry. In a world where winner-takes-all, there will be very limited need for domains. That Orwellian scenario is closer than you think and is impacted by choices made by people in our industry.

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Facebook wants to connect the entire world (and monetize it) but wouldn't be anywhere without a domain name. Even social media eco-systems need a domain to survive. I don't believe grandiose ideals like that of Zuckerman will ever work as can be seen from the challenges facing (no pun intended) Facebook in these early stages. That's what you call a "God complex".

Rob Monster said:

You might be aware, I was at ICANN Kobe earlier this month. I am one of the main guys advocating for continued WHOIS privacy versus licensing certain entities to have unmitigated rights to peek through to determine the identity of domain owners. This is being discussed, and not all of it transparently.

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Not sure where this comes from. Can you explain why this came up?

Rob Monster said:

At the end of the day, the public internet was intended to be decentralized. It empowers individuals to engage with content, community and commerce. It is an amazing to have been a tiny part of it. That said, if the censors and regulators overreach, decentralized solutions will go mainstream very quickly.

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Email, websites, etc. will always be part to the public Internet. And we will still be able to make choices based on morals and principles as with anything else.

Rob Monster said:

I will do my best there Frank. Since the thread was apparently about me, I figured it was fair game especially after the HuffPo hit piece was referenced earlier in the thread. You see in my world view, there is a "Satan" and he really likes to control the narrative. Until you have gone down that rabbit hole yourself, it is hard to fully appreciate the context of what drives a guy to stand on principle even when it is not really convenient or lucrative to do so, at least when measured carnally/financially.

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theire is neither Satan nor God
its only existing in human brains

no-where else

this image doesn't justify anything

I suggest you don't make it worse for yourself with every reply

Tom K said:

Not sure where this comes from. Can you explain why this came up?

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You know if you are interested, there are many ICANN working groups that have a vested interests in protecting their portfolios and while I am not one of them (with a valuable portfolio), I join as an observer and you might too.

Here is an old thread:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/ic...ge-domain-owners-rights.1048344/#post-6421940

One particular member here is in the RPM working group, battling with the TM attorneys at this all the time. He gets little if any support or credit from fellow domainers. I don't want to mix his name up in this thread- but you might look into the history.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/im...l-rights-to-due-process.1003885/#post-6688035

offthehandle said:

You know if you are interested, there are many ICANN working groups that have a vested interests in protecting their portfolios and while I am not one of them (with a valuable portfolio), I join as an observer and you might too.

Here is an old thread:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/ic...ge-domain-owners-rights.1048344/#post-6421940

One particular member here is in the RPM working group, battling with the TM attorneys at this all the time. He gets little if any support or credit from fellow domainers. I don't want to mix his name up in this thread- but you might look into the history.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/im...l-rights-to-due-process.1003885/#post-6688035

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I will look into this further. Thanks. You're right, it doesn't belong in this thread (different topic).

Tom K said:

@strugar

Can you explain what you dislike about the post?

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I disliked a dozen of posts in this thread (I'd probably disliked more, but cannot bother reading all of this mess); I don't think Rob's / Epik's actions were/are wrong at all, and I allowed myself to dislike the posts that are overly pathetic, imho.
I have better things to do than to argue over internet who is right or wrong, so don't expect further replies from me, you'll just have to live with fact that I disliked what you wrote.

strugar said:

I disliked a dozen of posts in this thread (I'd probably disliked more, but cannot bother reading all of this mess); I don't think Rob's / Epik's actions were/are wrong at all, and I allowed myself to dislike the posts that are overly pathetic, imho.
I have better things to do than to argue over internet who is right or wrong, so don't expect further replies from me, you'll just have to live with fact that I disliked what you wrote.

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Fair enough. I am disgusted with this topic and this forum as well (maybe for different reasons, maybe not).

Tom K said:

Fair enough. I am disgusted with this topic and this forum as well (maybe for different reasons, maybe not).

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Personally I look at everything objectively and that includes the subject at hand.

I feel Epik is a strong brand and offers some distinctive services to domainers.

I also don't believe Rob Monster is a racist, I believe he is an individual with strong views who sometimes shoots from the hip. The thing about shooting from the hip is sometimes you hit the target and sometimes you don't. Each persons twitter style is different but I sure don't think we should judge based solely on a few twitter characters.

I don't like that the previous owner of godaddy shot elephants but I still use the service, so if domainers are going to decide to use services based on what the owners/board of directors/employees do then there won't be any services left to pick from because we all have skeletons in our closets.

So I pick my services based on the merit of that service and I try to keep my personal opinions out of it. That is how a business is run, I cannot say I won't sell to one person because of his believes or what he has or has not done. I sell to anyone that will meet my price. Simply, easy and fair.

When I opened the topic I had a simple question and I never expected such a varied response, I simply wanted to find out what was making the news in other articles.

I will stand by Epik because I think they offer great services.

Will I stand beside Rob Monster?

Well... that depends...

I will agree with him on some things and I might even strongly disagree with others but I will have to wait and see if he shoots any elephants before I decide to boycott a service

MapleDots said:

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Personally I look at everything objectively and that includes the subject at hand.

I feel Epik is a strong brand and offers some distinctive services to domainers.

I also don't believe Rob Monster is a racist, I believe he is an individual with strong views who sometimes shoots from the hip. The thing about shooting from the hip is sometimes you hit the target and sometimes you don't. Each persons twitter style is different but I sure don't think we should judge based solely on a few twitter characters.

I don't like that the previous owner of godaddy shot elephants but I still use the service, so if domainers are going to decide to use services based on what the owners/board of directors/employees do then there won't be any services left to pick from because we all have skeletons in our closets.

So I pick my services based on the merit of that service and I try to keep my personal opinions out of it. That is how a business is run, I cannot say I won't sell to one person because of his believes or what he has or has not done. I sell to anyone that will meet my price. Simply, easy and fair.

When I opened the topic I had a simple question and I never expected such a varied response, I simply wanted to find out what was making the news in other articles.

I will stand by Epik because I think they offer great services.

Will I stand beside Rob Monster?

Well... that depends...

I will agree with him on some things and I might even strongly disagree with others but I will have to wait and see if he shoots any elephants before I decide to boycott a service

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Fortunately today there are options when it comes to services like those of Epik. Personally I never used their services and don't see what makes them outstanding.

IMO, elephants is one thing. What concerns me most is the effect on human lives. The level this conversation has taken the domaining community to is abysmal. Personally I will not be participating on this forum much, if at all. I have canceled my "business" subscription. This is my personal decision but I have to move on to things that are actually productive, positive and add value.

Kate said:

And it's worth reminding the fact that those 'sinners' are not just some strangers on a forum, they are customers of Epik who add up to your bottom line. Perhaps the business is good and that is the reason why Epik continues to cultivate and tap the market.

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Slanted said:

Untrue. Gab.com is 1 domain registered at Epik. It's not even hosted at Epik. As a registrar, Epik makes a few pennies per year on a domain renewal – if that. Gab is a forum full of its own members. Only a tiny fraction of them would have any business at Epik now or ever.

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Is Epik coming out with a .gab or .truth extension? I'm curious because these things do benefit that community. I see discussions about other things planned such as payment processors, etc. Just clarifying that because it seems like products and services are being tailored and targeted toward this specific customer base as shown below (screenshots from Gab.com)

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Personally I look at everything objectively and that includes the subject at hand.

I feel Epik is a strong brand and offers some distinctive services to domainers.

I also don't believe Rob Monster is a racist, I believe he is an individual with strong views who sometimes shoots from the hip. The thing about shooting from the hip is sometimes you hit the target and sometimes you don't. Each persons twitter style is different but I sure don't think we should judge based solely on a few twitter characters.

I don't like that the previous owner of godaddy shot elephants but I still use the service, so if domainers are going to decide to use services based on what the owners/board of directors/employees do then there won't be any services left to pick from because we all have skeletons in our closets.

So I pick my services based on the merit of that service and I try to keep my personal opinions out of it. That is how a business is run, I cannot say I won't sell to one person because of his believes or what he has or has not done. I sell to anyone that will meet my price. Simply, easy and fair.

When I opened the topic I had a simple question and I never expected such a varied response, I simply wanted to find out what was making the news in other articles.

I will stand by Epik because I think they offer great services.

Will I stand beside Rob Monster?

Well... that depends...

I will agree with him on some things and I might even strongly disagree with others but I will have to wait and see if he shoots any elephants before I decide to boycott a service

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Thanks @MapleDots. This has been a tough thread on NamePros.

FYI, I love elephants. My wife and I were at an elephant sanctuary in northern Thailand for about a week in December 2017. They are noble creatures.



One day, one of them decided it would be a good idea to give me a shower while bathing in the Mekong river:


We did ride them but only bareback, which they don't mind at all, especially if you let them eat everything in sight. For calibration, a typical adult elephant eats about 400 pounds of forage per day.

I think anyone who stares into the eyes of an elephant could not possibly kill one. They say elephants never forget. I believe that.

Rob Monster said:

- I deleted my personal Twitter account. I did this not because I have something to hide, but because I have better things to do than to be an apologist for free speech, or to be a punching bag for the SPLC brigade.

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frank-germany said:

theire is neither Satan nor God
its only existing in human brains

no-where else

this image doesn't justify anything

I suggest you don't make it worse for yourself with every reply

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Tia Wood said:

Is Epik coming out with a .gab or .truth extension? I'm curious because these things do benefit that community. I see discussions about other things planned such as payment processors, etc. Just clarifying that because it seems like products and services are being tailored and targeted toward this specific customer base as shown below (screenshots from Gab.com)

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Hi @Tia Wood,

There are no plans for .GAB domain. However, the concept that a community can have their own domain extension is still valid. The technology to power it is fully ready to go. You can go to Epik.com, and buy a .Us.Tv (pseudo-domain) or a .TRUTH (alt-domain) and if you have the Anonymize.com VPN or Anonymize DNS, it will resolve pretty instantly. Also, we can resolve most Blockchain domains.

By the way, when I say that overreach by censors will cause the domain industry to collapse, I mean that sincerely. The technology for powering an alternate Internet is essentially ready to go. The only thing that prevented it from going mainstream was the need for it. However, if .COM prices were to go to $35 per year, or people's rights to use a domain lawfully would become arbitrary, the Internet would change.

As for my ongoing interaction with people in the free speech community, I am mainly doing this in my capacity as a technologist. They have sometimes been a willing source of feedback, e.g. surveys for name selection such as the mini-project being developed called WatchMask.com which was surveyed here for free. We ended up selecting Us.Tv for a larger project but the projects will leverage each other.

Regards,
Rob

I saw the gab thing, and by choice not on Gab or communicate on social media.

"What other extensions would you like to see introduced?"

I don't know how to describe the architecture, but since you are an inventor and innovator-
.... if there were a way to use blockchain and peer to peer technologies to allow valid websites to be resolved- to supplement and potentionally eliminate GOOGLE from being the central control of search- it seems like that would be an extension:

Indexing search of websites based on extension, certified like DMOZ used to do. To eliminate the b.s. search results and gaming.

The company without advertising can be found. The power and money does not necessarily rise to the top. Eliminate all the SEO b.s. too.

If you are familiar with Thomas Register, it was THE go-to guide before the internet to find odd ball physical things, materials and processes, distributors and suppliers and anything to do with commerce in industry.



They had 4 ft. stack of printed books on everything to build just about anything o-rings to laser cutting
to whatever. Right now, you search and Amazon comes up, who might not sell the best quality but
the cheapest imported O-rings from china.

As an example:
You want to buy a Laser Printer, so:
LaserPrinter.Search
HomesSeattle.Search
ElephantRides.Search
BusinessCards.Search