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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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Guys, don't you think it's a bit gross for a registry to be cashing in on this massacre and the scandal? In particular, to use the surname of Epik's CEO in that way? Surely not a coincidence. Of course, you're donating the money. But it is nonetheless a marketing ploy to gain positive exposure for .XYZ in the context of a massacre and a high-traffic NamePros thread.

You could have done this in a context that didn't piggyback on a really unfortunate scandal. And you could have done it in a way that didn't actively promote the new TLD you're selling or further link the name of Epik's CEO to the massacre.

Some people accused Epik of trying to profit off this massacre – which is nonsense, since it has only been a PR disaster that will cost Epik business. But it seems that the XYZ registry is genuinely attempting to profit off the incident, selling its new .XYZ under the guise of philanthropy and at the same time doing so with a personal insult to the CEO of Epik. I should remind you that we sign promo contracts with your registry regularly. Though you may not agree with Rob's decision – as I myself do not – it is surely inappropriate for a company try selling .MONSTER domains by linking that TLD to the surname of a CEO involved in a scandal that pertains to the death of dozens of innocent people.

I see that Epik isn't the only company making bad PR decisions in the context of a mass shooting. Please discontinue using a .MONSTER domain for this unseemly purpose. You can promote your cynical charity drive in some other NamePros thread – without trying to drive buzz here. Really gross, guys. Really gross.

Xyz will do anything for publicity, not much better.
 
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You are gossiping about his board. I find that rather distasteful. Ask the questions you need answered to proceed in the manner you deem appropriate. But stop gossiping and picking the man apart.
 
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I don't know. Seems like free speech to me

People have a right to be stupid, wrong, and offensive. That includes the XYZ registry. Never once did I say that those people shouldn't be criticized. The goal of free speech is to promote critique. That way, ideally people stop being stupid, wrong, and offensive.
 
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You are gossiping about his board. I find that rather distasteful. Ask the questions you need answered to proceed in the manner you deem appropriate. But stop gossiping and picking the man apart.
Facts are facts, a board member resigned, it is public information. Are you censoring what people can talk about online Johnny join lately Jan 8, 2019, Trade Score 0? Maybe earn a few brownie points before you start telling people what to do online.
 
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Ad hominems might help you here. Let's see what others think. I say things have gone far enough.
 
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Guys, don't you think it's a bit gross for a registry to be cashing in on this massacre and the scandal?

People have a right to be stupid, wrong, and offensive. That includes the XYZ registry. Never once did I say that those people shouldn't be criticized. The goal of free speech is to promote critique. That way, ideally people stop being stupid, wrong, and offensive.

Please just stop posting. The hypocrisy is nauseating. This would be a complete joke if it wasn't so devastatingly sad. Do what is right. The more you post the worse you sound. Action speaks louder than words.
 
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Ad hominems might help you here. Let's see what others think. I say things have gone far enough.

But you have no authority here, nor does any other poster, and posts like yours just bring more people out of the woodwork, because they sit there and say "Who do they think they are? Now I will give my two cents."

This discussion was set up to be a clusterfuck from the get go. Why?

There are people here who are very conservative
People who are very liberal
People who are centrists
People who believe in tolerance and forgiveness
People who believe in fighting hate where they perceive it and will never forgive or forget.

So these threads end when they are closed, (with these pageviews, that ain't happening) or when they finally peeter out organically. But they never peeter out when one member, says "OK that's enough"
 
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Guys, don't you think it's a bit gross for a registry to be cashing in on this massacre and the scandal? In particular, to use the surname of Epik's CEO in that way? Surely not a coincidence. Of course, you're donating the money. But it is nonetheless a marketing ploy to gain positive exposure for .XYZ in the context of a massacre and a high-traffic NamePros thread.

Yes, several people already commented on that in this thread. They could have just linked to the fundraiser if they wanted, without promoting their extension and taking an obvious shot at Rob.

Brad
 
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Sometimes a thought experiment helps to understand a problem.

Picture this: it's Friday afternoon at Epik's offices and the staff are relaxed, looking forward to a weekend away from it all. But suddenly masked gunmen break in, and line everyone up against the wall. They start ranting, and are filming it. They say all domain investors are parasites, preventing freedom of speech by buying up all the best domains and stopping people using them, as part of a global conspiracy of the devious tribe of domain investor vermin that must be exterminated. The gunmen are livestreaming this.

"Cut off the head of the snake" they shout and one by one they behead the Epik staff. They are livestreaming this to social media.

How would you feel about that?

Domain registrars go into lockdown, domain investors start sweating, and the Godaddy website crashes as people rush to buy fresh WHOIS domain privacy. Many governments announce it is illegal to broadcast, save or view the video as it is terrorist propaganda, inciting violence, and an imminent threat to public safety. Social media platforms keep taking it down but people keep sharing it and reposting it just as fast.

Due to a regular Friday evangelising gig, Rob Monster was out of the office and his phone starts pinging like crazy. He looks on the Twitter app and sees the video of the Epik beheadings. Should he retweet it? Should he suggest it is a hoax? What should Rob do?

As his finger hovers over the Send Tweet button he sees tweets coming in saying this was a false flag attack arranged by Rob Monster and the cosmopolitan conspiracy of domain owners to get sympathy and boost prices. What should Rob Monster do?

Please note no freedom of speech was harmed in the construction of this thought experiment.
 
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I don't like to see anyone here be turned into the prey of a feeding frenzy. I am confident that enough share this sentiment that some momentum will build. It weakens the integrity of this forum when a member is figuratively danced around and kicked by passersby. That is what this is devolving to. If this were about Trump, Kardashian, etc. I'd be all for it. But not a member of this community. It does not foster strength.
 
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I don't like to see anyone here be turned into the prey of a feeding frenzy. I am confident that enough share this sentiment that some momentum will build. It weakens the integrity of this forum when a member is figuratively danced around and kicked by passersby. That is what this is devolving to. If this were about Trump, Kardashian, etc. I'd be all for it. But not a member of this community. It does not foster strength,

Rob is more than welcome to come here and defend himself, apologize, or say whatever he wants.

So far he has chosen not to do that. That is his choice.

Brad
 
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Yes, several people already commented on that in this thread. They could have just linked to the fundraiser if they wanted, without promoting their extension and taking an obvious shot at Rob.

Brad

Worse yet, XYZ didn’t just stop and post here, they have proactively plastered that stupid URL in other domainer blog comments.
 
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Worse yet, XYZ didn’t just stop and post here, they have proactively plastered that stupid URL in other domainer blog comments.

Guys, XYZ is not promoting hate or giving hate a platform. Lets not lose sight of the issue.
 
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Rob is more than welcome to come here and defend himself, apologize, or say whatever he wants.

So far he has chosen not to do that. That is his choice.

Brad

And if this brand new member thinks this is something off the chart, someone get him in touch with Adam Dicker, Shane Bellone, Jonathan from NameJet.
 
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Runaway train... this thread, I mean... where's Denzel (Washington) and Chris (Pine) when you need them? :xf.wink:

Even the normally levelheaded Dr Berryhill lost it completely and let loose a whole salvo! :xf.eek:

But, please, nobody even think of stopping!

@Slanted, don't listen to them, keep posting more, keep adding fuel to the fire, lest it burn itself out :sneaky:

More popcorn, anyone? :ROFL:
 
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Guys, XYZ is not promoting hate or giving hate a platform. Lets not lose sight of the issue.

Wow. I got my first dislike ever for the above post. Care to share why you don't like it? @equity78
 
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I'm not saying they're not stupid. But that is a separate issue and on a completely different level. Let's not conflate the two. Open a separate thread for that.

Fair point but they did the conflating by coming here and doing that, they could have started a thread here instead of posting in here.
 
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There is also a reason in threads like this especially I wish there were more buttons, I have always believed dislike should be disagree, it's not an attack, it's disagreeing.
 
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Fair point but they did the conflating by coming here and doing that, they could have started a thread here instead of posting in here.

Okay, but let's not let them distract us. The original issue is far too important to get distracted by these sideshows.
 
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But let's see the answers for this, how do we come to an amicable settlement. What is it people want to see happen that winds down the thread?

Do they want Rob fired?
Sell the company?
Exiled?
Willing to forgive under certain circumstances and apologies from Rob?
Infinite debate that will never end as there is no amicable solution?
 
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But let's see the answers for this, how do we come to an amicable settlement. What is it people want to see happen that winds down the thread?

Do they want Rob fired?
Sell the company?
Exiled?
Willing to forgive under certain circumstances?
Infinite debate that will never end as there is no amicable solution?

I want to see what the Epik's moral compass looks like. I don't want to tell them what to do. I want Epik to show me what doing the right thing is for them. Then let the community make the final decision.
 
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