question Buying overpriced domain

the idea to bid the $3K USD
and tell him you are not willing to pay that much

is:
how can I say?

no my english is not good enough

I would probably be banned here
if I'd use free speech on that topic

I just found:
my german is not good enough as well
to say it politely

so:
let put it this way:
DON'T DO IT !!!
--ashl--

Sometimes you can can contact the owner with the email mentioned on private whois details. Or check the private registration website for details on contacting the owner.

Check out other domains he owns, find buyers in other markets, and email him. I think if your offer is in line with the market value, buyers will take it seriously.

The seller might have specifically put the minimum offer and made his/her whois private to avoid buyers like you.

The value of a domain is very much subjective. Respect the seller. If you can't afford it, move on.

Seller on undeveloped then probably is on NP too. Try the domain buyer requests thread with a somewhat broad criteria but is related to that domain with the budget you're willing to spend. You might find the seller knocking on your door, at reseller pricing.

The point is whether you are willing to pay min 3k for that name....

If not there is no point in further discussion about worth...the pricing is owners decision and buying is your decision...

On other hand you can try to reach out to owner to quote your price you willing to pay...

Saying it didn't worth that much is not suitable for all persons and for all names...it is highly dependent on the need factor....if you think it is overpriced you have to forget about that name.

I hope you will reach the owner...

Good luck

Just seen this thread and I thought everyone always tried the old tactic first of contacting the owner through email (quite a few domain name registrations have an email forward attached to them).

The best bet is to first try: info@'the domain name' (Others worth trying are 'contact@', 'message@', 'mail@') You have nothing to lose by trying this method except one or two minutes typing time.

You will soon know if an email has been sent because if there is no such address it will bounce and you will be informed.

But as others have indicated making an offer without the intention of seeing the deal through at the price YOU offered is a sign of bad faith on your part.

Please contact undeveloped support about your budget and name. They would approach the seller.

I am so surprised at the response the OP is getting. If he thinks it is worth less than $3k he should make an offer. Sure the minimum says $3k. Sure it might be a little annoying to some of you. He also might take less than $3k. He may have forgotten about the name and just has it sitting there. There are so many possibilities. And yet some of you act as if there is only one possible solution.
Dude pm me the website. Tell me your highest price. I’ll broker the deal up to your highest price and then we see what’s what in the domainasphere.

I think it is the fact he is willing to make a bad faith offer that sticks in most peoples throats.

Domaining has not changed since when I first started in it, or at least it would seem. Most domainers expect to be dealing with people whose word, and hence offers/bids, can be trusted - however, unfortunately there are those who do not recognise that 'trust' in a person's word is of absolute importance in this business.

Most domainers do not know each other, indeed we are just people somewhere on this globe, and when one acts or suggests they will act in a way that 'trust' is broken means that it denigrates the whole ethos of how this business should operate.

As I am no longer a full time domainer by any means it is of little import to me personally, but surely it is not only in the domaining sphere but in business and life generally that the above applies.

based on your description, it is a name may only get ur attention, and not worth too much, then, I suggest calm down, wait for it drop again...dont approach any one, dont disclose it.....thus the name will sit there with no sale...

if it get renew finally, and you still badly want it 1 year later, then u may want offer it to continue the deal...

or u will get it for regfee.....

I think your just cheap with questionable ethics but that's the impression your making.

I know this is contrary to popular domainer belief, but multiple drops over X period of time is only a small factor in the domain's worth for most domains.

Domainers like to think there is some cut and dried method of valuation, but that isn't the case for most domains born or yet-to-be-born.

I've been reading sites of some very renowned brokers and they all seem to believe the same: a domain's value is mostly what a prospective buyer is willing to pay - which is almost impossible to calculate, in general.

Someone once bothered me about building a website when I made clear I wasn't too interested for ANY price. eventually I agreed to do one for a small amount $40, I think. It was still a nightmare for me. This was pretty much a waste of time, he didn't want to learn anything that I tried teaching him along the way. He wouldn't buy the premium plugin that would of set him apart. He kept insisting I didn't know how to put his adsense code in the header of his website (crypto-related). I told him, "I know how to put google adwords bro, right click your ad 'inspect element', it's an iframe being blocked", and I had to research myself, googe ads get blocked on crypto sites! This guy did 0 due diligence, he knew nothing of websites, just wanted to make money. HE WAS CHEAP.

Next he wanted another, a simple 1 page site for his to domains, $20. Again, I didn't want but okay, a couple days this would be done, I could do it I didn't really even want bother for $20, still I took this project on too.

He was all busy planning how to promote his first one! Still, he had me doing edit after edit, updating his 'domain' list over and over, this guy had NO content, making demands of me, that i update his domain list over and over (domaining site lol). I was clearly upset when he tried rushing me to finish this 1 page website. To try pushing me along when I already went beyond 1 simple page, this guy offered something like $12 for MORE work than the single page we were still fussing over.

I went off the rails, and deleted all this guys stuff. This small amount, a little carrot bit of $12 to add more pages to this 2nd site was extremely offensive.

Moral: don't waste peoples time with tiny offers when they're clearly expecting more. You don't know this person and it's rude to offer less than he wants as a minimum.

Want2learn said:

Why is everyone making this more difficult than it needs to be?

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Are you referring to the OP? Because he's clearly the one who's making this complicated.

How much the domain owner wants for the domain?
Domain Owner: Sets minimum price.
OP: That's ridiculous! It's not worth that much! I need to contact him and offer a much much lower price.

How to contact the domain owner?
Domain Owner: Adds privacy to whois data.
OP: Can I offer to buy the domain and then don't complete the transaction just to contact the owner?

I get that we all want the lowest price possible but sometimes we just have to respect other people's wish.

whenpillarsfall said:

They are listed as a private seller, so absolutely no detail of other domains or ability to message them

No whois data available.

Domain not listed on any other market place.

Have looked on and off for months, but the only feasible method of contact is via undeveloped and no way in hell am I paying 3k.

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Your only other option is to check whois history. Maybe there was some data before the owner put it under privacy.

wizard said:

Reach out to undeveloped.com and they can speak to them

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Gotta make those relationships in th industry. makeing friends has benefits!!!

whenpillarsfall said:

That's the problem. The system won't let me offer less than 3k. You just get an error message.

But I have no other way of getting in touch.

This isn't a case of me trying to be a cheapskate .. I've paid well over 3k for domains in the past. But this one really isn't worth anything near that, to anyone.

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try contact simon at undeveloped
if Simon cant help then leave it alone

whenpillarsfall said:

There's a domain I want that's on undeveloped with a minimum offer of 3k. It's in my country's extension and is free in loads of common extensions. It's also an uncommon name with no wider meaning.

It's worth a few hundred at best, and that's pushing it.

What's the best way to approach? Offer 3k and then say not willing to pay that much when they get in contact? I'd use a throwaway email, so to avoid the silly "this is legally binding" nonsense on undeveloped.

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Check other sales sites ,they may have it listed where you can place a bid,also check archive.org sometime theres an old email ,of the domain is listed at godaddy domain buyers for 69 bucks may have access to that info, but maybe that's too much for you too ,because if they don't secure the domain you lose 69 bucks,,,,,or just contact the owners at undeveloped and tell them your budget is not too far away can they at least shoot them an email , but if your looking to pay chump change for a domain with a minimum bid that you think is too high maybe you should look at another extension or let the moths out of your wallet

It would be interesting for someone to try to contact Undeveloped with a request to contact the owner for a lower price to see if they get involved or not - then report back with their reply and the result.

This guy wants to buy a 3k domain that's probably pretty good for nothing meanwhile hes selling a so so adverb name like epically for 10k maybe worth a few hundred ,talk about being overprice ,this guy is just cheap,a hes telling others they have silly pricing

ben pedri said:

This guy wants to buy a 3k domain that's probably pretty good for nothing meanwhile hes selling a so so adverb name like epically for 10k maybe worth a few hundred ,talk about being overprice ,this guy is just cheap,a hes telling others they have silly pricing

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Crikey, someone's got a chip on their shoulder. It sounds like business isn't very good for you, but don't take it out on me.

Regarding the domain, Brandpa and BrandBucket set the prices... The latter wanted to list at closer to 20k. So take up your concerns with them.

The domain I'm interested in is simply my uncommon surname in my country's extension. It was hand regged about 2 years ago after dropping.

I've given up on that domain now, it's not worth the hassle Particularly with guys like you jumping on my case.

Funnily I'm actually currently negotiating my much more common first name in the same extension for a fraction of the cost... All that's happened here is the owner has missed out on a good sale because of silly listing practices.

But seriously, check your attitude.

And all this from a guy asking for appraisals on

xin400.com

Hes got the goods and you don't think highly of your name,as far as epically ,you can go to uniregistry and they will recommend 60k ,if you really want your domain you will find a way to the owner ,or maybe you can just say the domain here and the domainer will see it,we do a lot of tough love around here but no offense

ben pedri said:

Hes got the goods and you don't think highly of your name,as far as epically ,you can go to uniregistry and they will recommend 60k ,if you really want your domain you will find a way to the owner ,or maybe you can just say the domain here and the domainer will see it,we do a lot of tough love around here but no offense

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I'm good thanks. I asked a simple question, and I got a response and lots of agro. As I said, not worth the hassle.

And please don't school me on how to sell domains. Particularly after looking at the junk names you post in the appraisal board.

Here is a good example, what does this domain appraise for with Godaddy's appraisal tool?

You don't have to state the name, but let's just see how far you are from the goal post?

Even though there is no rhyme or reason to it, an over average valuation may indicate something.

wwwweb said:

Here is a good example, what does this domain appraise for with Godaddy's appraisal tool?

You don't have to state the name, but let's just see how far you are from the goal post?

Even though there is no rhyme or reason to it, an over average valuation may indicate something.

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$1,455

Estibot < $500

As I've tried to make clear. This really is a case of an okay domain having an ott price tag and no way to make contact with the owner.

I have spent many thousands on single domain names in the past, and have no qualms doing so when they are worth it.

But this isn't even really about price. It's about how people could be missing out on sales because of listing decisions.

As above, I'm not pursuing this anymore. Someone else will likely be getting my money...