.ca Dot CA Discussion, Sales, and Showcase

whitebark · Jul 7, 2008

Domains For Next MyID .ca Auction

These are the upcoming domains and reserve range for the next/current myid.ca auction:

666.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Acrobats.ca ($251 - $500)
affordabletrips.ca ($251 - $500)
AirportRentals.ca ($1001 - $1750)
albertabyowner.ca ($251 - $500)
BridalOnline.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Broke.ca ($5001 - $7500)
CanadianDrugStores.ca ($501 - $750)
CanadianTennis.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CarStore.ca ($1001 - $1750)
CheaperFlights.ca ($101 - $250)
CraftSales.ca ($501 - $750)
DiscountTours.ca ($1001 - $1750)
DivorceTips.ca ($501 - $750)
DownloadFreeRingtone(s).ca ($2 - $100)
DUILawyers.ca ($1001 - $1750)
EasyIncome.ca ($751 - $1000)
EcoVoyage.ca ($251 - $500)
EngineeringCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
Enlargement(s).ca ($751 - $1000)
ExoticHolidays.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FashionOnline.ca ($2501 - $3750)
Fertiliser.ca ($1001 - $1750)
FitnessJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
FlightSearch.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Freebies.ca ($7501 - $10000)
FreelancingJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
FurnitureLiquidation.ca ($751 - $1000)
GayBlog.ca ($251 - $500)
GayCanada.ca ($3751 - $5000)
HealthGuide.ca ($1001 - $1750)
HearingAids.ca ($7501 - $10000)
Hired.ca ($7501 - $10000)
HockeyGame.ca ($1001 - $1750)
homegardens.ca ($251 - $500)
HowToDance.ca ($501 - $750)
iBlogs.ca ($751 - $1000)
InternetHelp.ca ($251 - $500)
InternetPhones.ca ($1751 - $2500)
JFK.ca ($1001 - $1750)
JointVenture.ca ($2501 - $3750)
KitchenWare.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Lake-Ontario.ca ($1001 - $1750)
LogosOnline.ca ($501 - $750)
Mask.ca ($3751 - $5000)
MontrealLaser.ca ($251 - $500)
MontrealTravel.ca ($1001 - $1750)
MusicJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
NutritionJob.ca ($751 - $1000)
OakvilleFlowers.ca ($501 - $750)
OnlineCoupons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
OnlineDates.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineGaming.ca ($2501 - $3750)
OnlineStock.ca ($751 - $1000)
OnlineStocks.ca ($751 - $1000)
OrganicStore.ca ($1751 - $2500)
PharmaceuticalCareer.ca ($751 - $1000)
PizzaRestaurant(s).ca ($101 - $250)
PrivatePilots.ca ($501 - $750)
ProFootball.ca ($251 - $500)
QuebecHoneymoons.ca ($1001 - $1750)
RollerBlading.ca ($5001 - $7500)
SaskatoonRealtors.ca ($101 - $250)
SelfImprovement.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Sensual.ca ($10001 - $15000)
Shareware.ca ($15001 - $25000)
SingleChristian.ca ($251 - $500)
SmallJob.ca ($1001 - $1750)
SNN.ca ($251 - $500)
Snores.ca ($1751 - $2500)
SportsStore.ca ($501 - $750)
TechJobs.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TeddyBear.ca ($1001 - $1750)
Theme.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TNN.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputer.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoComputers.ca ($251 - $500)
TorontoDentists.ca ($2501 - $3750)
TravelAuction.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UniqueGifts.ca ($2501 - $3750)
UsedHouses.ca ($251 - $500)
UsedLaptops.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Valuable.ca ($501 - $750)
VancouverHomeForSale.ca ($101 - $250)
War.ca ($1751 - $2500)
Women.ca ($50000)

I can see a number of these getting picked up - there a few others I'm surprised they accepted the high reserve and can't see selling because of it. What do you think?

wwwweb · Feb 28, 2019

rlm said:
Well, for starters, I'd bet that the owner of Cover.com was in a much better position to hold out and demand his price (i.e. less desperate) than the owner of Cover.ca... Personally, I think too many .ca domainers sell for way too cheap...

BTW, there was a very similar .ca in TBR just a couple weeks ago. Some brilliant person probably picked that one up cheap.

In the context cover.ca seems like it sold to cheap, but it was a sedo sale so most likely it started out like $100 offer counter at $50,000 and so on, and so on, with them probably best and final at $10k where the owner is left to make the call do I sit on this for a few more years, and if so who is going to pay me more, or do I take what is here today, and move on. It’s a tough call sometimes, I feel .ca are selling for less today, maybe more motivated sellers sick of holding, and lowball offers.

Bob Hawkes · Feb 28, 2019

I have been pouring through an Escrow.com report for a forthcoming NameTalent article. Many interesting stats one of which shows the top 5 regions and how they performed in each quarter. They are US, China, UnitedKingdom, Hong Kong and Canada which surprised me somewhat that we would be a top region.

They show from Q3 of 2017 through Q4 of 2018 performance each quarter. Canada was strongest in Q2 of 2018 when there was just under $13 million in transactions. Now these are for the country, not for the extension per se, so hard to know breakdown of .com and .ca. Basically 2018 Q2 was the strongest for all markets, and in Hong Kong in particular huge drop off since then.

Bob

rlm · Feb 28, 2019

DomainRecap said:
The Official .CA To Be Released (TBR) Results & Leftovers are a bit late, but finally online so go check which TBR Registrars were *really* the quickest:

Out of curiosity - where did you get your list? I see sibername isn't posting the full results.

Interesting to see that those results are often off by around 1 second compared to what whois reports. What's even weirder is that whois reports that (for example) bwg.ca was registered at 19:00:01 where as the official results said 19:00:02.164. I'm guessing the whois data gets injected before the transaction is complete, and that the official results are based on the transaction complete time rather than the transaction initiation time.

Anyways, I guess I'm off the hook now for providing those results

DomainRecap · Feb 28, 2019

rlm said:
Out of curiosity - where did you get your list? I see sibername isn't posting the full results.

I got them straight from CIRA, but there's no ETA when the official functionality will be available, so please keep posting the immediate results as I may not have access next week.

Anyways, I guess I'm off the hook now for providing those results

Hey, wait a minute....

I used an amalgamation of both lists (I credited you also) to make sure I had the Times/Order and Registar rows correct.

I know you're going to want to bow out sometime, and at that point, please let me know the translation table you use for Registrars - I used to have one, but it's woefully out-of-date. PM me if you want to talk.

rlm · Feb 28, 2019

Bob Hawkes said:
They show from Q3 of 2017 through Q4 of 2018 performance each quarter. Canada was strongest in Q2 of 2018 when there was just under $13 million in transactions. Now these are for the country, not for the extension per se, so hard to know breakdown of .com and .ca. Basically 2018 Q2 was the strongest for all markets, and in Hong Kong in particular huge drop off since then.
Bob

Good work - very interesting. Although for sure .CA is a part of those stats (I know I contributed my part), there are some prominent domainers from Canada who got in really early, have great .com portfolios and thus never bothered to get into .CA (thankfully!).

dtagr · Feb 28, 2019

rlm said:
Well, for starters, I'd bet that the owner of Cover.com was in a much better position to hold out and demand his price (i.e. less desperate) than the owner of Cover.ca... Personally, I think too many .ca domainers sell for way too cheap...

BTW, there was a very similar .ca in TBR just a couple weeks ago. Some brilliant person probably picked that one up cheap.

I can't disagree. If my truck is in the shop you can usually get a good deal out of me.

Were you talking about covr.ca?

In any case $10k was an ok price for that name, depending of course on what was initially paid. However if that was negotiated by a Sedo broker it speaks volumes to how the pros value the extension.

The seller may have achieved a better sale if he had known who the buyer was.

wwwweb · Feb 28, 2019

rlm said:
Good work - very interesting. Although for sure .CA is a part of those stats (I know I contributed my part), there are some prominent domainers from Canada who got in really early, have great .com portfolios and thus never bothered to get into .CA (thankfully!).

Those are skewed results most likely from big one off sales from maybe netincome ventures or maybe richard lau etc...I wouldn't put it on the back of .ca

dancarlson · Feb 28, 2019

wwwweb said:
Tough market, but huge market for California aka CA

surfshop.com said they would allow me to run a shop up here and get 10% of sales, I also had some slight interest from surf companies in Tofino but most didn't care

wwwweb · Feb 28, 2019

dancarlson said:
surfshop.com said they would allow me to run a shop up here and get 10% of sales, I also had some slight interest from surf companies in Tofino but most didn't care

That 10% deal sounds really good, I would have just given them technical control, and taken the 10% royalty on sales?

dtagr · Feb 28, 2019

dancarlson said:
surfshop.com said they would allow me to run a shop up here and get 10% of sales, I also had some slight interest from surf companies in Tofino but most didn't care

I had similar interest levels with sups.ca

alcy · Feb 28, 2019

rlm said:
Well, for starters, I'd bet that the owner of Cover.com was in a much better position to hold out and demand his price (i.e. less desperate) than the owner of Cover.ca... Personally, I think too many .ca domainers sell for way too cheap...

BTW, there was a very similar .ca in TBR just a couple weeks ago. Some brilliant person probably picked that one up cheap.

no correlations at all
and no rules
is probably the best rule to follow.

NameSellingcom · Mar 1, 2019

Anyone know what the final price of Grow.ca was?

rlm · Mar 1, 2019

dtagr said:
Were you talking about covr.ca?

I was referring to Coverage - it just dropped 2 weeks ago.

dtagr said:
The seller may have achieved a better sale if he had known who the buyer was.

Considering the .com was developed since 2017 - the seller _should_ have had a pretty good clue.

dtagr · Mar 1, 2019

rlm said:
I was referring to Coverage - it just dropped 2 weeks ago.

Missed it in all the excitement.

Spex · Mar 1, 2019

rlm said:
Interesting to see that those results are often off by around 1 second compared to what whois reports. What's even weirder is that whois reports that (for example) bwg.ca was registered at 19:00:01 where as the official results said 19:00:02.164. I'm guessing the whois data gets injected before the transaction is complete, and that the official results are based on the transaction complete time rather than the transaction initiation time.

Maybe I missed something, but what's up with the registration times? 19:00:xx (7:00pm?)

Isn't the TBR run at 14:00 EST (2pm)?

DomainRecap · Mar 1, 2019

They seem to have changed the default Time Zone on their server, which now looks like Greenwich Mean Time.

rlm · Mar 6, 2019

Anyone ever notice that the majority of .CA domains listed on domainagents.com are actually freely available to register? Seems pretty stupid to me:

1. most people arrive on site via the domain they're actually interested in so it's not bringing any traffic.
2. it dilutes the domains that are actually listed on the system.
3. their minimum offer is $2000 USD (for a domain that is free to register)
4. It makes them look horribly scammy and untrustworthy.

Thoughts?

alcy · Mar 6, 2019

rlm said:
Anyone ever notice that the majority of .CA domains listed on domainagents.com are actually freely available to register? Seems pretty stupid to me:

1. most people arrive on site via the domain they're actually interested in so it's not bringing any traffic.
2. it dilutes the domains that are actually listed on the system.
3. their minimum offer is $2000 USD (for a domain that is free to register)
4. It makes them look horribly scammy and untrustworthy.

Thoughts?

domainagents is not so great to deal with. imo

as for many names available to reg.. well.. its simply because people put their portofolios there... and then drop names.. and DA does not clean up anything. so u get countless names which are expired and available to reg. but u can make offers on them.

this can happen to some extent on other markets too.. but many do clean up also.
so before you make offer on DA... or bin there.. always check whois

of course this goes for any extension not just .ca

DomainRecap · Mar 6, 2019

Damn, just started looking over this week's TBR list and it's pretty obvious which one is going first. 4-letters and gone in a twinkle.

NamesCost · Mar 6, 2019

rlm said:
4. It makes them look horribly scammy and untrustworthy.

How hard can it be to prune the list automagically

DomainRecap · Mar 6, 2019

Shoot, it looks like STAR.CA may be another one of those non-registerable domains that has sneaked through to TBR, as it has no WHOIS record and it is already registered at the provincial level.

cabotower · Mar 6, 2019

at cira they all come up -already registered,except star,it comes up -something went wrong please try again later.

rlm · Mar 6, 2019

NamesCost said:
How hard can it be to prune the list automagically

Its friggen easy. In like 15 minutes of time, I listed all of their .CA domains listed for sale, and then confirmed which were registered vs available.

14571 .CA's listed for sale.
9601 of them aren't registered.

So a whopping 66% aren't even registered - but are listed for sale at $2K minimum opening offer.

And since I keep records of almost every TBR since 2006, I can see that many of these domains expired a LONG time ago. I spot checked a few and I already see domains that last expired in 2010 that are still listed on this platform.

rlm · Mar 6, 2019

FYI - in case no one noticed, CIRA appears to be posting results directly on the tbr.cira.ca page now. Its not super obvious if you're not looking for it, but it's there as a text link "View Results".

DomainRecap · Mar 6, 2019

rlm said:
FYI - in case no one noticed, CIRA appears to be posting results directly on the tbr.cira.ca page now. Its not super obvious if you're not looking for it, but it's there as a text link "View Results".

Hopefully that means their TBR feed is up and running, and I'll email this morning to confirm.

Thanks.

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