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In the Adult section, a Member is selling the domain name Adult.com.mx—mentioning Estibot appraised this domain name at $13,000.

I was taken aback as I believe l have some good domains that receive Estibot’s all-too-common “Less-Than-$100” appraisal. In fact, the highest Estibot appraisal l’ve garnered is $490 for
GhanaScams.com. Of course, GoDaddy’s often inflated appraisal for this domain name is $1113.

In fact, there’s a current NP thread about Estibot’s terminal inaccuracy, which is supported by about 90 percent of the threaders.

But back to my question. Why is Estibot so thrilled with the seemingly bland domain name Adult.com.mx—regardless of folly or not? I’m guessing the “mx” has something to do with the five-figure estimate. Please explain to this relative domaining neophyte.
 
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The extension is .com.mx. So what you have here is simply a popular dictionary word (the XXX niche naturally comes to mind as the main reason someone would want this domain) in one of Mexico's two country code extensions (.mx and .com.mx). Such a popular word unsurprisingly gets a high appraisal by Estibot even in a ccTLD.
 
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Not to mention it's ridiculous because "adult" is an English word that is of little use in a Spanish speaking country like Mexico, where the respective ccTLD's .mx and .com.mx have no international use (as opposed to the unique case .co).
 
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But back to my question. Why is Estibot so thrilled with the seemingly bland domain name Adult.com.mx—regardless of folly or not? I’m guessing the “mx” has something to do with the five-figure estimate. Please explain to this relative domaining neophyte.
Why should you care ?
Only the creator of the software could answer to that question. We can just speculate but again what's the point.
 
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Say what!? Why should l care? Because l’m interested in becoming a better domainer! Isn’t that, ultimately, the purpose of the great majority of posts on this fine web site?

Why should l care why a funky, seemingly meaningless domain name is appraised at $13,000!? Quite simply, because 1 and 1 don’t seem to make 2. And two non-acerbic members, unlike you, told me why.

Back at you, Kate: Stay in your own lane! Wish l could block the very-rare demeaning NP member.
Geez!!!
 
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SCAM.
People use MessMeBot pricing to sell.
When they buy they said MessMebot means nothing.

NO ONE CAN APPRAISE THE NAME.
The price is established when there is an agreement between buyer/seller.
 
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For obvious business interests they don't disclose their methodology but after evaluating 1000 names using both Estibot and GoValue it seems to me Estibot place emphasis on the following.
  • Is it available in any major TLD?
  • How searched is the term both broadly (e.g. 'adult films' or 'adult diapers') and narrowly ( people searching on simply the word 'adult')?
  • How much do advertisers pay and how many are there.?
  • How much did it or very similar names sell for?
GoValue seem to flip the order of importance so if someone paid 6 or 7 figs for same word in com, or 4 figs in a cc or new, they will value high.

I suspect advertisers pay and use 'adult something' a lot is why it rates highly. Estibot really loves single common words but not as keen on multiple words that GV treats more kindly.

Bob
 
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Say what!? Why should l care? Because l’m interested in becoming a better domainer! Isn’t that, ultimately, the purpose of the great majority of posts on this fine web site?

Why should l care why a funky, seemingly meaningless domain name is appraised at $13,000!? Quite simply, because 1 and 1 don’t seem to make 2.

Hi @Lewstar

been a while since I've seen you post :)


when I read your initial post, I too thought, why do you care?

but I also noticed that you said you had used da bot, and it gave you unfavorable assessments, in your opinion.

when you question why da bot isn't adding up,
then maybe you assume or expect, that it should add up...
that it is rational and that the results should make sense.


to me, 1 and 1, when da bot is involved, never has to equal 2 or add up to two.
it's not part of my evaluation process, so the results are of no concern.

and I think @Kate may have been head scratching, as to why da bot results got you upset.

so, from that perspective, I think one who is concerned, would find it questionable.

just saying...

imo….
 
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We have been around the automated appraisal debate a few times on NPs O_o

I think, rightly or wrongly, some end users will access them now that GoDaddy list valuation information with searches. Even for those who do not see any value in them I think it is important to be knowledgeable about them, which is what @Lewstar post is essentially asking.

By the way in his keynote at NamesCon Paul Nicks reported that there was a statistically significant increase in sales completion the week they started including GoValue appraisals with listings.

People use bots to suggest their bus route and timing, the best way to drive, to suggest a music playlist, to pick search results for us, to play games like chess with us, to translate for us....It is not surprising that some end users, businesses and organizations will ask a bot for a view on the value of several domain choices. Domain investors ignore these tools not necessarily because they are helpful but rather because people who might buy their domains are using them.

Bob
 
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Thanks for your opinion, sir. In fact, l have no faith in Estibot, as is the case with the great majority of NPers—at least if the current Estibot thread is any indication.

But whether or not Estibot deserves any credence was not the thrust of my message. Rather, it was why a 9-total-letter domain name that made no sense to me—and at the time l didn’t know mx stood for Mexico—was valued so highly by an admittedly robotic appraiser but still one that is often mentioned in NamePro.

I don’t understand, still, why l’m being criticized by at least one well/informed domainer (you) and thankfully not my new hero, Bob Hawkes—for having some ulterior motive in asking, to me at least, a straightforward, no malice intended, question.
 
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Thanks for your kind comments, @Lewstar.

When Estibot or GoValue surprise me as being unusually high or low I try to figure out why that probably is - sometimes Estibot guess the split or language of the word wrong, for example. But beyond that they each for sure have their own biases. But so do all of us domainers who offer personal opinions on the appraisal threads. I think the important thing is to take many factors into consideration, and not place undue faith in any one opinion, whether from a bot or a person. Just my humble opinion.

Have a nice day.

Bob
 
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domain tool appraisal are good, sometime they can help! though you need to check other metrics! for me personally I use domain appraisal to filter many domain, so I can focus on potential domain! but I have to admit, domain appraisal sometime can be missleading! :xf.grin:
btw, I think estibot algo focus on EMD, so any CCtld, as long they keywords EMD, and have good CPC, they can give high value! but we all know that domain are not worth much! but just like I said! check again manually!
 
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Thanks for your opinion, sir. In fact, l have no faith in Estibot, as is the case with the great majority of NPers—at least if the current Estibot thread is any indication.

But whether or not Estibot deserves any credence was not the thrust of my message. Rather, it was why a 9-total-letter domain name that made no sense to me—and at the time l didn’t know mx stood for Mexico—was valued so highly by an admittedly robotic appraiser but still one that is often mentioned in NamePro.

I don’t understand, still, why l’m being criticized by at least one well/informed domainer (you) and thankfully not my new hero, Bob Hawkes—for having some ulterior motive in asking, to me at least, a straightforward, no malice intended, question.


Fully agree with your comment about @Bob Hawkes Very rational and balance approach. Also I agree with @Bob Hawkes about automated software is that,one can use it as second opinion instead of completely ignoring it.
 
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