Two WHOIS Questions

Lewstar · Feb 16, 2019

After l read the pros and cons of going public vs. private, I chose the former option for the three registrars l used where l wasn’t already public: NameSilo and 1and1 Ionos.

Yesterday, with the help of a most-helpful NP member, I, a tech-illiterate, was easily able to go public on NameSilo myself. And last night, a 1and1 Ionos contact said he would change my status from private to public.

My first question is, does it take some time for the changeover from private to public? My info on both NameSilo and 1and1 Ionos is still private.

My other question involves changing other info on WHOIS. Extremely valuable advice, which l promptly lost, was also offered by another NP member.

Specifically, a domain owner could change the NameServers on Whois to read NS1 ForSale For Sale1 and NS2 For Sale For Sale2.

Not only that, but he added that one could add onto Whois additional information about the domain name like price and terms.

Most interesting and sale-friendly info, to be sure.

My second question is, for now, can anyone please tell me how to change the NameServers
to read “For Sale”?

Very much appreciated!

Lew

Domains - Wanted · Feb 17, 2019

Lewstar said:
...My second question is, for now, can anyone please tell me how to change the NameServers to read “For Sale”?

Someone is pulling your leg, or you misunderstood their advice. First and foremost: you can do that only if you control (read: are the registrant of) the domain "forsale.com" or whatever nameserver you want to use.

Secondly, if you do control the domain you want to use as your nameserver, you need to create so called "glue records". You do that in this domain's registrar admin panel.

And last, but not least: you need to (a) run your own nameservers, or (b) avail yourself of DNS service offering a vanity DNS option.

For more details, here's a good read:
https://www.digitalocean.com/commun...d-nameservers-with-digitalocean-cloud-servers

You can run with this if you have the facilities, but I wouldn't waste much time on this. Unless your target market are resellers (domainers), that is. It's a rare end user / potential buyer who knows what WHOIS is and bothers to check. Having a For Sale landing page with your contact details is way more important!

My first question is, does it take some time for the changeover from private to public? My info on both NameSilo and 1and1 Ionos is still private.

Your WHOIS details should be visible at most within 15 minutes or so.

On a side note: 1&1 Ionos is one registrar to avoid at all costs!

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 17, 2019

Why to contact them???
Private WHOIS can be easily and ~instantly disabled at both NameSilo and Ionos (1and1) directly in their panels.
But with Ionos this operation doesn't matter due to European GDPR policy.

wormfood · Feb 17, 2019

https://www.namepros.com/threads/how-to-get-your-own-branded-nameservers-for-free.680659/
?

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 17, 2019

And overall, don't waste your time on WHOIS...
90-95% of endusers are not aware about WHOIS at all, they just visit the necessary domain... so set your own Contact Form or park your domains somewhere like ParkingCrew/Bodis.

Lewstar · Feb 17, 2019

Thanks, Gentlemen, for the info. Jurgen, I tried ParkingCrew but was rejected for not doing enough business yet, so to speak.

Do you have any recommendations for less-strict parking outfits?

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 17, 2019

Then try Bodis...
They accept almost all users.

Lewstar · Feb 17, 2019

Thanks for the suggestion and quick response.

Lewstar · Feb 17, 2019

Domains - Wanted said:
Someone is pulling your leg, or you misunderstood their advice. First and foremost: you can do that only if you control (read: are the registrant of) the domain "forsale.com" or whatever nameserver you want to use.

Secondly, if you do control the domain you want to use as your nameserver, you need to create so called "glue records". You do that in this domain's registrar admin panel.

And last, but not least: you need to (a) run your own nameservers, or (b) avail yourself of DNS service offering a vanity DNS option.

For more details, here's a good read:
https://www.digitalocean.com/commun...d-nameservers-with-digitalocean-cloud-servers

You can run with this if you have the facilities, but I wouldn't waste much time on this. Unless your target market are resellers (domainers), that is. It's a rare end user / potential buyer who knows what WHOIS is and bothers to check. Having a For Sale landing page with your contact details is way more important!

Your WHOIS details should be visible at most within 15 minutes or so.

On a side note: 1&1 Ionos is one registrar to avoid at all costs!

Lewstar · Feb 17, 2019

Check out Wormfood’s reply below, which disagrees with your take on inviolate NameServers.

Because I’m a tech-illiterate, I could never follow the 15 steps required to change NameServers.

If you read the post l was originally referring to in my “NameSilo” post, you will see that the highly-respected NP member Bob Hawkes (not that you aren’t highly respected) was most-surprised by the change-Name-Servers post and most-thankful for the post.

Domains - Wanted said:
Someone is pulling your leg, or you misunderstood their advice. First and foremost: you can do that only if you control (read: are the registrant of) the domain "forsale.com" or whatever nameserver you want to use.

Secondly, if you do control the domain you want to use as your nameserver, you need to create so called "glue records". You do that in this domain's registrar admin panel.

And last, but not least: you need to (a) run your own nameservers, or (b) avail yourself of DNS service offering a vanity DNS option.

For more details, here's a good read:
https://www.digitalocean.com/commun...d-nameservers-with-digitalocean-cloud-servers

You can run with this if you have the facilities, but I wouldn't waste much time on this. Unless your target market are resellers (domainers), that is. It's a rare end user / potential buyer who knows what WHOIS is and bothers to check. Having a For Sale landing page with your contact details is way more important!

Your WHOIS details should be visible at most within 15 minutes or so.

On a side note: 1&1 Ionos is one registrar to avoid at all costs!

Domains - Wanted · Feb 17, 2019

Lewstar said:
Check out Wormfood’s reply below, which disagrees with your take on inviolate NameServers.

No disagreement whatsoever. His guide is in line with my post above and vice versa, except his is by far more detailed, of course.

One problem with making use of GoDaddy's DNS: this is only applicable to domains registered with this registrar. Having a portfolio of close to 4,000 domains, spread across some 20 registrars, I prefer registrar independent solutions myself.

BTW, what's "inviolate nameservers"?

Because I’m a tech-illiterate, I could never follow the 15 steps required to change NameServers.

Actually it boils down to only 3 steps and it's easier than it seems at first glance. I also think you may find DO's (Digital Ocean's) tutorial I linked to a better guide, that is easier to follow

As long as you understand the steps involved, you can follow either guide and easily apply it to any DNS provider that allows modifying NS records (many, like CloudFlare for example, don't allow this, at least not when making use of their entry level, free plans). Personally, I'm not a fan of DO and make use of Vultr's DNS instead.

If you read the post l was originally referring to in my “NameSilo” post, you will see that the highly-respected NP member Bob Hawkes (not that you aren’t highly respected) was most-surprised by the change-Name-Servers post and most-thankful for the post.

Sorry, you've lost me here... no idea what you are referencing here

Bob Hawkes · Feb 17, 2019

Just to clarify, I did like the post by @NameBuyer.com that showed dns servers with for sale in their name, however I don't know how to do it short of managing your own domain name servers and naming them that.

I asked in the other thread about how it was done, or if there is a service offering it (but not answered).

Here is a link to the original post from @Namebuyer which shows a screen capture of it in practice.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/namesilo.1123205/#post-7105108

Personally I agree with @Jurgen Wolf and others who say Whois is way down the list on how people find your domain. By far the most important thing is having a clear landing page, and then getting listed on the main marketplaces.

Bob

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