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Wali Dahot

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Few months back when I was trying to hand reg by gd domain appraisals, I came across a two word name which was taken and was being sold around 5k$ and in comparable domains sold, the same domain word1word2 was previously sold for 1995$ and its reverse word2word1 too was sold for 1995$, but when I see in namebio there isnt any record of such sales. That domain is now in gd expiring auctions, should I believe gd and go for it or believe in namebio and let it go..?
 
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when you input your domain your looking at, youll see a result page:

IP Address 103.47.222.93 - 308 other sites hosted on this server

IP Location
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- Hong Kong - Hong Kong - Ourdomains Limited
ASN
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AS134243 OURDOMAINS-HK Ourdomains Limited, HK (registered Jun 15, 2015)
Domain Status Registered And Active Website
IP History 58 changes on 58 unique IP addresses over 14 years

Registrar History 4 registrars with 1 drop

Hosting History 7 changes on 7 unique name servers over 16 years< right here is probably how many times it was sold but not necessarily..
 
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when you input your domain your looking at, youll see a result page:

IP Address 103.47.222.93 - 308 other sites hosted on this server

IP Location
hk.gif
- Hong Kong - Hong Kong - Ourdomains Limited
ASN
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AS134243 OURDOMAINS-HK Ourdomains Limited, HK (registered Jun 15, 2015)
Domain Status Registered And Active Website
IP History 58 changes on 58 unique IP addresses over 14 years

Registrar History 4 registrars with 1 drop

Hosting History 7 changes on 7 unique name servers over 16 years< right here is probably how many times it was sold but not necessarily..
Ip history 60 changes on 60 unique IP addresses over 14 years
Registrar History 5 registrars with 1 drop
Hosting History 8 changes on 6 unique name servers over 12 years
 
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namebio might not be updated accurately, and you can trust godaddy for that much, they aren't trying to hide anything.
 
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I found some of the names sold on Godaddy in therr appraisal so yes. It's still accurate
 
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I might not be able to snap it. Just into last 4 minutes, whenever I increase bid I recieve a message I have been outbid. I dont know how the other bidder started auto bidding :(
 
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you probably have to put in what you are willing to pay max and then you find out where it levels out.
 
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you probably have to put in what you are willing to pay max and then you find out where it levels out.
I jumped half k$, its still auto bidding so I will close it here, It was 12$ just a couple of minutes earlier lol :) Thanks a lot for your responses.
 
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You should never bid on a domain based on some auto appraisal anyway.
 
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You should never bid on a domain based on some auto appraisal anyway.
Thanks, I am in learning phase and after this advice I think getting it in around 700-800$ and then struggle to sell in even in the same range would have been frustrating for a newbie like me. Glad I missed it. It was pik poker dot com. Might be sour grapes but I dont like it after a night's sleep :)
 
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GoDaddy has all of their own auction data (public and expired) plus Afternic data, we only have GoDaddy expired auctions and whatever Afternic data gets reported by one of the parties involved (very little). So if GoDaddy shows the sale and we don't, that doesn't mean it is suspect or might not have happened.

That said, just because a domain sold once for a decent price doesn't mean it will ever happen again, some of the comps they use are end user sales and are lightning strikes for the most part. If it was an end-user comp you wouldn't want to pay more than 1/10th of the price, maybe even less, as a wholesaler.

And like others said, don't buy based on automated appraisals. GoDaddy has built a great appraisal tool, way better than Estibot, but it is still nowhere near good enough to take the actual number seriously.
 
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just because a domain sold once for a decent price doesn't mean it will ever happen again, some of the comps they use are end user sales and are lightning strikes for the most part. If it was an end-user comp you wouldn't want to pay more than 1/10th of the price, maybe even less, as a wholesaler.
Thanks for your valuable response with such insight. Much appreciated.
 
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should I believe gd and go for it or believe in namebio and let it go

I may be misunderstanding your query (if so my apologies!) but would point out the following:
  • Because a sale is not listed in NameBio does not mean it did not take place. For example most private sales, Sedo where one party paid for privacy or below $2k, and all Afternic, Undeveloped and Efty sales, unless individually reported, are not in NameBio.
  • If you meant that GD GoValue listed those as comparator sales, I do believe those sales happened, Odds are the sale was at Afternic where GD have access but NameBio do not.
  • A GD GoValue appraisal may, or may not, have valuable insight re the probable price. At the very most I would just consider it as one element of a dozen or so things to consider.
  • As others have said, even if a name sold for a lot before, that does not mean it will sell at good price again. Each NameBio daily report, well most of them, have cases of significant drops in price. Sometimes this is because someone paid too much but often simply trends have changed over the years.
Bob

ps In case helpful here is link to an article I wrote for NameTalent on some of the things to look at when evaluating a possible acquisition.

pps Edit. I realize that Michael responded just before me with some of the points I made. Sorry for duplication in part.
 
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