discuss Baffled by people against hand reg

Laguna · Jan 1, 2019

As many of you know, I hand reg all my domains. Most posts I have read are all against it. I am baffled by this as ALL domains were originally hand reg . Your comments and opinions are welcome but NO personal comments about my way of doing things please.

DomainRecap · Jan 8, 2019

Kate said:
With creativity you can still find decent handreg names, decent enough for your next business venture, but finding handreg names that have resale value is more challenging.

Exactly. I was doing the same thing tonight, trying to find 5-7 letter pronounceables/phonetics for an online business and there are a lot of nice potentials, even today, but I'm not sure many would be immediately saleable on the current market.

Silentptnr · Jan 8, 2019

I was reading this morning, and on DomainInvesting .com, Elliot Silver remarked that he "hand registered quite a few domain names last year following a bit of success selling a couple of other hand registered domain names."

handpicked · Jan 10, 2019

I believe most bitcoin, blockchain, crypto domains were han-regs in the recent past and probably sold like gold and so do drones and clouds... people with futuristic vision about a new technology can excel in hand reg i guess. the next is ambient computing (ie iot) google ceo has spoken about it in many of his interviews. eco friendly domains can also have value so is geo. thanks.

Brands.International · Jan 11, 2019

TL/DR : do not hand reg, otherwise you will loose money in 99% of cases.

I am sure no one will listen to this advice anyway, but after all, it is ok to loose some money, part of the learning process

NameBuyer.com · Jan 11, 2019

"Hand Reg" is a relative term if you think about it. I have an Expired Domains watchlist of filtered domains. Out of the ones I don't buy, I'd say 50% get registered within 6 months.

So did those new buyers buy a "Hand Reg", or did they buy an expired domain that didn't sell in auction?

I've sold around $8k in domains last year that were "hand reg'd" for $7, in the same year. But they were all owned at some point in the past.

wormfood · Jan 11, 2019

just use your feet instead. makes you pick better domains if you have to put all that effort in.

Bernard Wright · Jan 11, 2019

I've spent quite some time reading peoples' opinions on hand regs the past few days, in various NP threads. I just took a gamble on one that I was 50/50 on, and I'm new; so it stands to reason that the veterans here would have been more like 15/85 at best. But I thought I'd take one for the team as a case study and streamline the learning process. I'm wondering whether any of the more experienced folk would enlighten me/us as to why this purchase was a bad decision. The domain is m i l d a n i m a l s [dot] com

mistressbellek · Jan 13, 2019

@Lagunaboy

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lock · Jan 14, 2019

johnnie018 said:
Hand reg is an easy way to lose lots of money, almost always very low quality names people picking up that business don’t want even at $10.

The dropped domains you buy were once hand reg. Gtld oppprtunities are all hand reg. I could find better hand registered domains with better resale and register them in 5 mins . If looking at dropped for 5 minutes would find names not really into but buy for traffic etc and end up with far less resale value in the same 5 minutes. My opinion of dropped names is to milk them for last drop of traffic then drop them. My portfolio is proof hand registration has more merit than you care to consider.

The Internet is in English but the people buying names may not necessarily use it. Translations are probably responsible for half the hand reg fails. People without experience are buying up crap terms all great news in my books. There are plenty of crap domainers hand registering crap and the good domainers continue to find gold. I know who these good domainers are on here they register great domains and offer sound advice.

Bernard Wright · Jan 14, 2019

I gather there is both an art and a science to regging. I think I'm grasping the art aspect just fine; it's the science I don't know. With regging prices being quite low and high-speed bots scraping and such, the efficient markets hypothesis suggests that all the good names were taken long ago.

I'd really like a case study. All domains I mention herein are coms.

West Roast is parked. North Roast is developed. South Roast is with Huge Domains. East Roast was held for a few years and dropped last year. On WhoIsRequest I see that it might have been picked up for a few days and dropped again.

East Coast Roast is a company in NY with a trademark at the USPTO. There is and East Roast in the UK with their own UK domain, which I'd expect them to prefer since their customers are domestic. There are other shops on the east coast of the US who might like the domain, and there is the chance an Asian company could brand it as an "East" coffee.

I see occasional mentions of backlinks. I don't expect this domain to have any because it appears to have never been developed, but if I were to want to search for such info on a domain, how would I?

What other considerations would go into the decision as to whether to reg this domain?

McDuke · Jan 14, 2019

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Lagunaboy said:
Hand reg is cheap and lucrative if you research research research.
Especially in future tech

You're believing your own hype.

In a year or two you're going to be like every new domain investor and reevaluate your process. Either you learn and adapt or lose money like 95% of domainers. We have all been where you are in the learning phase.

Few get it, many don't.

You better be willing to spend hundreds if not thousands of hours learning multiple fields.

Domaining is not for everyone.

just my 0.02$

mistressbellek · Jan 14, 2019

McDuke said:
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You're believing your own hype.

In a year or two you're going to be like every new domain investor and reevaluate your process. Either you learn and adapt or lose money like 95% of domainers. We have all been where you are in the learning phase.

Few get it, many don't.

You better be willing to spend hundreds if not thousands of hours learning multiple fields.

Domaining is not for everyone.

just my 0.02$

I think he get it’s. It’s so annoying to read negative comments about hand regs.

Laguna · Jan 15, 2019

McDuke said:
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You're believing your own hype.

In a year or two you're going to be like every new domain investor and reevaluate your process. Either you learn and adapt or lose money like 95% of domainers. We have all been where you are in the learning phase.

Few get it, many don't.

You better be willing to spend hundreds if not thousands of hours learning multiple fields.

Domaining is not for everyone.

just my 0.02$

Yes I read everything that is said on here as well as doing my own research. But I have been keeping quiet

McDuke · Jan 15, 2019

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Lagunaboy said:
Yes I read everything that is said on here as well as doing my own research. But I have been keeping quiet

I hear yah, in 4 years you'll be saying the same thing to new domainers these guys are saying to you now. Heck, I can remember debating with the same guys you do now when i became interested in domain names and "sometimes" ;p those guys were right. I'm still a rookie too btw.

Hand regs can sell, it takes time and knowledge to know how to look and what to look for. It can take days or weeks until the right domain comes to you and is available in .com or (other extensions "on rare occasions"). Searching for hand reg domains is fun and addictive but it's easy to get caught in a hand reg rabbit hole. When people do get caught, most of those registrations are junk and the renewal fees end up killing their ROI. There are a tonne of opportunities to find good expiring domains, although it is getting harder to win auctions / drop catch.

It wouldn't hurt to watch every domain sherpa episode from day one and if you want to save money and time, sign up to DN Academy. There you'll get access to years of experience. Domaining isn't the type of business people openly give free information because you essentially are their competitor and it takes years to learn. But, if you are professional and courteous that goes a long way when starting out.

Domaining isn't for everyone as it requires multiple skill sets and at times deep pockets.

just my 0.03$

courlsale · Jan 15, 2019

Lagunaboy said:
... patience. So will see what happens after a year or so

courlsale · Jan 15, 2019

Lagunaboy said:
Exactly. The first year is a learning process

... and the 2nd, 3rd ....

The Durfer · Jan 20, 2019

believe it or not, its a skill, one ive yet to master. lol.

Rick Ace · Jan 22, 2019

There are two types of people in domain investments- those who are patient to study and sell hand-regs and those who don't (either due to time constraints or having little interest in xxx-x,xxx sales).

TopRightNow · Jan 24, 2019

lock said:
The dropped domains you buy were once hand reg.

creativity is all you need.
100% Agree.

gtldomainer · Jan 25, 2019

Hand regg will never die 'coz we've new technologies and trends coming every now and then. If you can follow them and can hold the names at least few couple of years then it might yield good ROI for you. But like you can see, its niche and we've only few names available then.

Yes, generic names are all taken already; Its better not try hands on them now.

BrandEntrance.com · Jan 26, 2019

Lord Antares said:
A hand reg in 2018 is a lot different than a hand reg in 1998.

As time goes on, hand regs become worse.

Available technology, services and brand awareness was a lot different in 1998 compared with 2018.

1 year in IT is like 100 years in the automobile industry regarding development. New concepts are emerging all the time and also the need to market those concepts.

Seems like you are just thinking about buying and selling names but remember that startups are buying those names and putting business ideas behind them.

ecomslice · Jan 26, 2019

Many great minds have always said, Make a TON of mistakes as it is the key to success. as much as I yammer on ego trips, im humble often also. and realistically we are right where we need to be Laguna. Cause I sure am making TONS of mistakes also lol.

BrandEntrance.com · Jan 26, 2019

ecomslice said:
Many great minds have always said, Make a TON of mistakes as it is the key to success. as much as I yammer on ego trips, im humble often also. and realistically we are right where we need to be Laguna. Cause I sure am making TONS of mistakes also lol.

Agreed. You only need to strike gold once out of a hundred times and then everything works out. Each failure increases the odds of a successful outcome in the future.

JudgeMind · Jan 26, 2019

Lagunaboy said:
As many of you know, I hand reg all my domains. Most posts I have read are all against it. I am baffled by this as ALL domains were originally hand reg . Your comments and opinions are welcome but NO personal comments about my way of doing things please.

Yes, handregs do sell and for a great ROI. I sell dozens a year in the high $xxx and low $x,xxx range. But the quality is lacking with most of what's available to register. Its very unlikely you will get prices above Mid $x,xxx for your handreg and they are harder to sell than an aged, keyword domain. If you want to sell names above the mid 4 figure price line you'll likely need to venture into the marketplaces to purchase them.

Here's a good way to look at it when were discussing quality:

A premium domain name like Products.org, since registered in 1997 it has never dropped/expired and been free to hand reg. In 2017 the person who registered it in 1997 failed to renew it, perhaps they died, in jail who knows, but anyway it went to expiring auction at namejet and sold for $2,111. Then in 2018 it was sold on flippa by this fabulous guy

at a price of $10,000. It never dropped, but was purchased before it dropped. If you want really good quality domains then you'll need to pay a bit more then reg fee for them, they are in the expiring auction daily or are available to buy from other investors.

There are the rare cases where premiums do end up deleted and are available to reg, but rare.

WatchDogue · Jan 28, 2019

Still occasionally hand reg domains although the names fall into the oft aforementioned
emerging " new markets /products " etc categories.

Usually when reg a name make a commitment to keep it for at least five years - ten years so I try to be very certain and well researched it is a logical / sensible and eventual desirable name in it's category.

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