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Hi All,

A lot of people struggle with outbound or complain about having no sales via inbound or marketplace. Well domaining is not a get rich scheme and it takes lots of time , hard-work , capital and luck to succeed in the same.

Though everyone would love to have xxxxx sales however you cant have such big ticket sales without pouring thousands of dollars and wait for long time for the right end users to approach you. This post is for the beginner who wish to have regular xxx or low xxxx sales and keep their domaining journey going on.

3 words Geo/keyword domains has very low chances of getting sold via landing page or marketplace even if you hold them for years. Such domains can be sold via outbound easily however you have to follow the practice properly.

There are number of steps and factors in the same. I will try to list few of them here for your understanding.

Let me first share the basic..

1. Outbound is a volume game. It may happen that you wont receive any response for your first 20 domains and than your 21st domain may get sold.

2. Price is big factor . $200-$499 is a sweet spot for normal geo domains.

3. Searches and cpc matters in case of Geo/keyword domains and its easier to sell domains with good metrics.

4. Follow up matters a lot as it hardly happens that you would sell domain in your first mail itself.

5. Certain niche sells faster than other niches. Location and country matters a lot as well.

6. One need to have lots of patience and a proper schedule to succeed in outbound.

Now back to the outbound process:-

1. Find leads:- There are basically 5 ways to find lead for your domain.

a) Google.com :- You can find the list of existing companies which are presently ranking for your keyword.You can use semrush.com to get first 100 result of google.com if you wish to avoid manual work.

b) Google map/yellow-pages:- You would find names and details of the companies which are registered for that keyword in that region. For geo domains , google map works better than google.com. There are automated tools which can fetch the google map results .

c) ZFbot.com/Domainiq.com :- Both these tools provide you list of the domain which are related to your domain or have same keyword like yours.

d) Socal media:- LinkedIn etc can be great source for finding potential end user for your domain.

e) Advertisers:- It makes sense to contact the advertisers who are advertising for the keyword of your domain. You can find the list of the same from semrush.com.

2. Finding email id:- There are 3 ways to find email id for the leads you have collected from above sources.

a) Whois.com/whoxy.com :- After gdpr whois is no more openly available however you still find email ids in 20-30% cases as compared to earlier days as few registrars still shows whois detail. Whoxy.com is a portal from where you can fetch whois details in bulk.

b) Hunter.io/adapt.io :- Such paid tools are great way to find email id of potential leads. However be aware that even though they are paid tools but still email id accuracy would be 60-70% only.

c) Website:- Lastly you may directly visit the website and collect email id from there.

3. Sending mails:- This is a tricky step as it is very difficult to send mails these days. Free email id provider like gmail , yahoo etc have strict spam policy and most of your mail would land in the spam folder. Now you have 2 options:-

a) Free email providers:- You can create multiple email ids with free email providers like gmail , yahoo, outlook etc.

b) Logicboxes panel based registrar:- There are some registrar which uses logic-box panel and they provide 2 free email id along with every domain. You would have to set up email id there and use their server to send mail. It works like charm as i have tried Bigrock.com and nettigritty.com.

c) Own server:- You can set up your own smtp server and purchase multiple ip for sending mails. It is a complicated and expensive way so wont be suggested in the initial days.

4. Pricing & follow up:-

a) Pricing:-
Pricing plays a very big role especially in case of geo domains and 3 words emd domains. If you price them in $200-500 range than you can easily sell them. If it was a hand registered domain or purchased from go-daddy closeout than its a great roi.

b) Followup :- Now follow up can further be divided into 2 parts:-

1. Initial mail:- Suppose you collected 50 leads of end users for a particular domain and you sent mail to them. You may have received 1-2 response and no response from other leads. You can send a follow up mail after 2-3 weeks as its highly possible that many of them may have missed your initial mail or were out of office. Though never send more than 2 follow ups or else you would be spamming in general. Further be very careful not to send mail again to the same person who has already responded "No".

2. Price inquiry:- You have sent 50 mails and have received 3-4 price inquiry. You have sent them the details regarding the domain as well as your asking price. You should follow up every week or 2 regarding their interest. Under normal circumstances it takes 4-5 follow ups to finally sell a domain. It would hardly happen than you send them price and they immediately closed the deal.

5. Closing the deal:- You again have 3 options in this.

a) Paypal:- You can send a paypal invoice to the client and they can make the payment via them. I personally transfer the domain first and than ask for payment. It has never happened with me that client didn't make payment though their were delays in couple of cases. When you first transfer the domain and than ask for payment than it create trust factor in the eyes of end-users and deal closes faster. This works best in case of xxx deals as your risk factor is low.

b) Escrow :- You can create escrow account and ask the client to complete the transaction via that. Be aware that creating account at escrow is a tedious process and many times deal gets cancelled as end users do not want to take so much of headache. Escrow is recommended in case of xxxx and xxxxx deals and not at all recommended for xxx deals.

c) Marketplace:- If your domain is registered with Godaddy than you can ask the client to directly purchase from there or via landing pages like undeveloped.com. It works very well as these marketplace have high trust factor among the general public.


Some personal suggestions based on my experience of outbound.

1. Registrar:- If your domain is with Godaddy than it is easier to sell them . Godaddy is world's largest registrar and due to their massive advertising campaign everyone is aware about them. Most of the end user have account with godaddy or they dont mind opening account at Godaddy. If your domain is with any other registrar tha always do outbound after 60 days transfer lock is over.

2. Response time:- xxx purchases are normally spontaneous decision and end users immediately pay the same. If you receive a offer or end user agrees to your price than try to close the deal instantly. If you delay than their is high possibility that end user may change their mind or look for alternative options.

3. Related domains:- If you have a singular version than always purchase plural version as well if available. Further in case of Geo domain if you are marketing .com domain than always acquire cctld version of the same to be on safe side.

4. Calling :- If you receive a price inquiry than always try to call up the client as the possibility of leads getting closed increases manifold in case of calls rather than on mail.

5. Promo offer:- If you are into hand registered game than keep a keen eye on promo offers offered by various registrar. If you can grab promo offers for .com at $3-4 range than its always a winning game.

6. Expireddomains.net:- Thousands of domains expire on daily basis and you can find lots of decent domains in daily drop list which can easily be sold in xxx range via outbound.

Last but not the least , there is a very thin line between marketing and spamming and majority of newbies dont understand the difference. Outbound is great to have regular sales and to keep the cash register rolling but most of the time we end up doing spamming. Even though i am into outbound but i am strictly against spamming.
 
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I just started with domaining.

Instead of coming with that atitude of "I'm the best, you're a joke" you can help me and give me directions & tips.

Thanks for nothing babe.

Let me try to answer your query...

1. You haven't gone through the entire thread or else wont have asked this query. I have clearly mentioned that i haven't received any response for first 50 domains for which i did outbound and than 51st domain got sold.

2. If you get offended so easily than i wont suggest you to get into outbound. You have no idea what kind of response you would receive from end users as and when you do receive response.

3. End-user is not our employee , they would respond or wont respond as per their own desire.

4. You haven't mentioned the domain name for which you did outbound than how the hell you expect others to answer why or whats do be done.

5. Lastly outbound require lots of patience , planning and know-how. If you wanna learn the same or want others to help you out than you have to work on your communication skills.
 
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Let me try to answer your query...

1. You haven't gone through the entire thread or else wont have asked this query. I have clearly mentioned that i haven't received any response for first 50 domains for which i did outbound and than 51st domain got sold.

2. If you get offended so easily than i wont suggest you to get into outbound. You have no idea what kind of response you would receive from end users as and when you do receive response.

3. End-user is not our employee , they would respond or wont respond as per their own desire.

4. You haven't mentioned the domain name for which you did outbound than how the hell you expect others to answer why or whats do be done.

5. Lastly outbound require lots of patience , planning and know-how. If you wanna learn the same or want others to help you out than you have to work on your communication skills.

Thanks, I never get offended and I didn't get offended now. That guy who I quoted was very irreverent and just laughed at my question for no reason at all.

This thread is here to help people with outbound, isn't it? that's the reason for why I commented.

I know that End-user is not our employee amd I've gone through the entire thread, I was just wondering how was my email that I've sent to companies...

And again, my communication skills is great, It's just I don't see any reason to be nice to someone who says and I quote "I'm afraid God won't be able to help here :xf.cry::xf.cry:"

Thanks.
 
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Thanks, I never get offended and I didn't get offended now. That guy who I quoted was very irreverent and just laughed at my question for no reason at all.

This thread is here to help people with outbound, isn't it? that's the reason for why I commented.

I know that End-user is not our employee amd I've gone through the entire thread, I was just wondering how was my email that I've sent to companies...

And again, my communication skills is great, It's just I don't see any reason to be nice to someone who says and I quote "I'm afraid God won't be able to help here :xf.cry::xf.cry:"

Thanks.

All the best
 
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Instead of coming with that atitude of "I'm the best, you're a joke" you can help me and give me directions & tips.
This forum is full of greatest "directions & tips". It's worth read and learn them all rather than asking for spoonfeeding you. Hence the irony.
 
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This forum is full of greatest "directions & tips". It's worth read and learn them all rather than asking for spoonfeeding you. Hence the irony.

And if he said that at the beginning, this conversation wouldn't happen and I would've understood.
 
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And if he said that at the beginning, this conversation wouldn't happen and I would've understood.

He said exactly the same but you didn't understand the context... anyways you can read the entire thread once again and hopefully your query would be solved.
 
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He said exactly the same but you didn't understand the context... anyways you can read the entire thread once again and hopefully your query would be solved.
How can anyone understand the context of "I'm afraid God won't be able to help here :xf.cry::xf.cry:"?

Cheers.
 
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Thanks, I never get offended and I didn't get offended now. That guy who I quoted was very irreverent and just laughed at my question for no reason at all.
Well, to start off, lets clarify iconology... I was crying :xf.cry:, not laughing. FYI, this is laughing: :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: And this icon :facepalm:(the facepalm) symbolizes helplessness, despair. Irreverent? Well, now that you mention it, yes, I was being irreverent. Perfect word to describe your example outbound email, you'd posted.
This thread is here to help people with outbound, isn't it? that's the reason for why I commented.
Fair enough. The help, as I understand it having spent a few years here, is to be frank and critical, not to pat newcomers on the back (or revere them), nor to spoonfeed them.
And again, my communication skills is great..
Which brings us to the point very nicely. IMHO, your communicatiin skills are anything but! From starting off your sales letter disrespectfully with "Hey"... to your unprofessional signature, the tone of this great communication of yours makes me want to cry. There's nothing to laugh about here.

No sense in my going into how to do this halfway properly. There's another one of Rohit's great threads kicking around here, one where he'd actually posted pretty good samples of outbound emails for different occasions and audiences (targets) (y)(y)
 
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Well, to start off, lets clarify iconology... I was crying :xf.cry:, not laughing. FYI, this is laughing: :ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: And this icon :facepalm:(the facepalm) symbolizes helplessness, despair. Irreverent? Well, now that you mention it, yes, I was being irreverent. Perfect word to describe your example outbound email, you'd posted.

Fair enough. The help, as I understand it having spent a few years here, is to be frank and critical, not to pat newcomers on the back (or revere them), nor to spoonfeed them.

Which brings us to the point very nicely. IMHO, your communicatiin skills are anything but! From starting off your sales letter disrespectfully with "Hey"... to your unprofessional signature, the tone of this great communication of yours makes me want to cry. There's nothing to laugh about here.

No sense in my going into how to do this halfway properly. There's another one of Rohit's great threads kicking around here, one where he'd actually posted pretty good samples of outbound emails for different occasions and audiences (targets) (y)(y)

You have summarized it very well bro , i would not have done it better. When someone talks about being newbie and want to spoon fed , i simply remember the example of big shot ngo who ask you for donation to feed poor children but we all know how exactly fund are being used.
 
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For non-U.S. folks attempting to sell lower quality domain names like these at low, sub-$500 USD prices:

Most American business people do not enjoy receiving unsolicited emails from people who are clearly not American. Regardless of the domain name being offered, most of the example email copy in this thread would quickly be dragged to the trash, deleted, and/or otherwise marked as spam simply because of the non-American English language and grammar used that sounds very awkward to an American business person. If you use too many British English spellings, stilted grammar or phrasing, or awkward punctuation and run-on sentences, your unsolicited email is dead on arrival. In short, the American business person is not going to trust you at all. Whether or not you think you are spamming, you surely read like a spammer to such an American. Say goodbye to your U.S. sales!

Pro tip: Draft up the email templates you want to use for your outbound program. Then, hire a U.S.-based editor for $750 to $1,000 (an investment in your business!) or ask an educated, U.S.-born-and-raised friend (ideally, someone who works in sales or marketing in the U.S.) to edit or re-write entirely your draft email templates for you. Then, use those email templates in your outbound communications to American business people. Even if you sign off with a non-"American sounding" name in your signature (always have a complete signature to help build trust!), the well-crafted, American English should help you build more trust with the recipient and make more sales, at the margin.

Until you do, more and more of your outbound emails will simply be deleted or manually flagged as SPAM and your business aimed at American companies will not grow.
 
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For non-U.S. folks attempting to sell lower quality domain names like these at low, sub-$500 USD prices:

Most American business people do not enjoy receiving unsolicited emails from people who are clearly not American. Regardless of the domain name being offered, most of the example email copy in this thread would quickly be dragged to the trash, deleted, and/or otherwise marked as spam simply because of the non-American English language and grammar used that sounds very awkward to an American business person. If you use too many British English spellings, stilted grammar or phrasing, or awkward punctuation and run-on sentences, your unsolicited email is dead on arrival. In short, the American business person is not going to trust you at all. Whether or not you think you are spamming, you surely read like a spammer to such an American. Say goodbye to your U.S. sales!

Pro tip: Draft up the email templates you want to use for your outbound program. Then, hire a U.S.-based editor for $750 to $1,000 (an investment in your business!) or ask an educated, U.S.-born-and-raised friend (ideally, someone who works in sales or marketing in the U.S.) to edit or re-write entirely your draft email templates for you. Then, use those email templates in your outbound communications to American business people. Even if you sign off with a non-"American sounding" name in your signature (always have a complete signature to help build trust!), the well-crafted, American English should help you build more trust with the recipient and make more sales, at the margin.

Until you do, more and more of your outbound emails will simply be deleted or manually flagged as SPAM and your business aimed at American companies will not grow.
Call it racial profiling, language profiling, unfair profiling, but that's about the nuts and bolts of it! This is one of the best pieces of advice in this thread (y)

Earlier here, I had already tried to explain the importance of employing native English as opposed to conversational, but broken English variety. People here seem to know better and then keep on posting, asking why no response to all those dozens or even hundreds of email they'd sent out (n)(n)

Hopefully, this new voice will give you all much needed food for thought (y)

Will you get results if you ignore this piece of advice? Sure, you will. But you could achieve so much better response rates if you take pains to craft a message in Native English, preferably Native American English...
 
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The reality of our world , yes they are correct unfortunately, as for the slight argumentative discussions, this was a great thread, keep it that way, just a suggestion rohitgoyal , pay no mind and ignore the pointless posts. keep this thread as amazing and helpful as it started. and again thank you so much for your selfless input of energy.
 
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Hello Rohit,

Thanks for the information this really gonna help me a lot to get started. One quick question, when you say buy geo domains does that means domains have city names in them? Like lasvegascasino.com or doctorsinnewyork.com? @rohitgoyal
 
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Hello Rohit,

Thanks for the information this really gonna help me a lot to get started. One quick question, when you say buy geo domains does that means domains have city names in them? Like lasvegascasino.com or doctorsinnewyork.com? @rohitgoyal
They are both GEO domains
 
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I have tried this 99 times, no headings but I have decided to try this maybe for the last time..
So am dedicating now till Oct ending to find out if I wil be hundred times lucky
Any updates? Thanks.
 
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Read from beginning to end , back to back great post, learnt a something worthy. BIG Thank to @rohitgoyal
 
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Hey rohit,

first of all I want to thank you for this post. Lots of useful info and just taking the time to help others for no benefit is greatly appreciated by the community.

I have two important questions for you and it would mean a lot if you could answer them:

1) Isn't sending unsolicited emails illegal? I've been reading up on it the past few days and it seems like it is. There are prescribed fines for doing this sort of thing and it seems that it is only legal to send mails to those who have agreed to receive them which obviously doesn't work in our case.

Have you ever had trouble with this? Or do you think that this is more like pirating software where it's illegal but no one will really care? I would like to know this because

2) I can and want to make a program which will automate outbound for me. It will be able to scrape emails from google by keywords and send bulk emails to them. This would take away the effort from doing outbound selling. The only reason everyone doesn't sell via outbound is because it is very tedious and painstaking and a lot of people just don't have the time or don't want to take the time to do it. With my bot, it would be easy and I know it could make me great profit in the long run.

What I want to ask you is if you think this is a good idea. Do you think I would get in trouble for it? Do you think I would even be sanctioned?

I see a lot of people do outbound and I haven't heard of a case where anyone has been reprimanded for it. What do you think? Thanks.
 
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For non-U.S. folks attempting to sell lower quality domain names like these at low, sub-$500 USD prices:

Most American business people do not enjoy receiving unsolicited emails from people who are clearly not American. Regardless of the domain name being offered, most of the example email copy in this thread would quickly be dragged to the trash, deleted, and/or otherwise marked as spam simply because of the non-American English language and grammar used that sounds very awkward to an American business person. If you use too many British English spellings, stilted grammar or phrasing, or awkward punctuation and run-on sentences, your unsolicited email is dead on arrival. In short, the American business person is not going to trust you at all. Whether or not you think you are spamming, you surely read like a spammer to such an American. Say goodbye to your U.S. sales!

Pro tip: Draft up the email templates you want to use for your outbound program. Then, hire a U.S.-based editor for $750 to $1,000 (an investment in your business!) or ask an educated, U.S.-born-and-raised friend (ideally, someone who works in sales or marketing in the U.S.) to edit or re-write entirely your draft email templates for you. Then, use those email templates in your outbound communications to American business people. Even if you sign off with a non-"American sounding" name in your signature (always have a complete signature to help build trust!), the well-crafted, American English should help you build more trust with the recipient and make more sales, at the margin.

Until you do, more and more of your outbound emails will simply be deleted or manually flagged as SPAM and your business aimed at American companies will not grow.

Thanks for your input ... I completely agree with your suggestions...
 
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The reality of our world , yes they are correct unfortunately, as for the slight argumentative discussions, this was a great thread, keep it that way, just a suggestion rohitgoyal , pay no mind and ignore the pointless posts. keep this thread as amazing and helpful as it started. and again thank you so much for your selfless input of energy.

Thanks
 
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Hello Rohit,

Thanks for the information this really gonna help me a lot to get started. One quick question, when you say buy geo domains does that means domains have city names in them? Like lasvegascasino.com or doctorsinnewyork.com? @rohitgoyal

Both are Geo domains however city+service/product are more preferred.... Further singular version of service/product are more preferred. Though to e on safe side i purchase all the variations and it has worked well for me..
 
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How are you sending emails now? I have to buy a domain at Bigrock and I have to use the emails I get form there? Will this work if I have a cpanel hosting? Can I send emails inside from it?
 
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How are you sending emails now? I have to buy a domain at Bigrock and I have to use the emails I get form there? Will this work if I have a cpanel hosting? Can I send emails inside from it?

in my humble opinion dont use bigrock. start with zoho. and just add records to send from domain your marketing eachntime.
 
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Why add a signature to your outbound email. This is a hobby, not a business. Do my outbound emails work? No, but I didn't do it often, maybe did for 100 times in my whole life. I plan to send 100 emails per day without spamming. I prefer writing interesting, funny, eye catching, informative emails to writing boring and formal emails and pretending that I'm doing a bonafide business when obviously this is gambling.
If I need to advertise a business to build trust, I would advertise the marketplace where the domain will be sold (but not in the signature). Maybe it would work better if potential buyers don't think I'm selling the domain, and instead informing them about a sale or a public auction event.
 
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Why add a signature to your outbound email. This is a hobby, not a business. Do my outbound emails work? No, but I didn't do it often, maybe did for 100 times in my whole life. I plan to send 100 emails per day without spamming. I prefer writing interesting, funny, eye catching, informative emails to writing boring and formal emails and pretending that I'm doing a bonafide business when obviously this is gambling.
If I need to advertise a business to build trust, I would advertise the marketplace where the domain will be sold (but not in the signature). Maybe it would work better if potential buyers don't think I'm selling the domain, and instead informing them about a sale or a public auction event.

Put goofy memes in there, that'll work. Who doesn't love a good laugh? Except someone who just had surgery in the stomach region maybe.
 
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