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@mr-x - is there some reason you never check him? You said something about Kate being anti-American and this guy literally is. Doesn't matter who's President. It seems you're afraid to disagree with Pro-Trumpers for some reason. Last time you did, Gilsan took a week off.

I didn't read his post or any other post but this today. Why didn't you "check" him? Is this a pattern of wrong thinking or something that just started today?

We all appreciate the time and concern you have what other people are or are not thinking or doing though.


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Left alone, Republicans talked about Hillary, Ocasio, little boys dancing on stage, Judgement Day. Not 1 Trump post.

Besides being a troll, why do you care so much?



Has this maroon has never suggested the FBI agents who were fired for lying and corruption should face any consequences? To busy fapping over trump tweets and monitoring what other people are saying I guess.
 
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Why do you care so much?

Why do you and Gilsan care so much about Gays, Trans and little boys dancing? You 2 are literally the ones always starting those posts. No concern with Priests molesting kids, never heard issues with little girls in pageants etc.

I also noticed not World Wars, Vietnam, other wars, Depression, financial collapses, not all the stuff that went down during the Civil Rights Movement, fighting, leaders getting murdered etc. That didn't take down America but.................teaching kids diversity. That's the one that's going to push the country over the edge. Seal #4:

"When Jesus breaks the fourth seal, the Holy Spirit will leave Heaven’s temple and begin a campaign of horrific death and destruction which is beyond our ability to comprehend."
 
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In California, they are breeding male cows without horns.

I can imagine in this f’ed up world humans are next, say a transgender couple “orders” from a surrogate hetero mother, an inseminated special order transgender girl without her tool. Lol.

“The cows had been implanted a month and a half earlier with embryos genetically edited to grow and look like males, regardless of their biological gender.”

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Gene-edited-farm-animals-are-coming-Will-the-13472924.php
And now people are gonna eat this TransFu+kedUp meat that will probably make their ding-a-lings shrivel...
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In case y'all don't know what you should be reading.
Bookmark dump.............

Mick Mulvaney in October 2016: Trump would be disqualified from office in an 'ordinary universe'
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/17/politics/kfile-mick-mulvaney-october-2016-interview/index.html

Michael Flynn: Trump’s national security adviser lied about his contact with Russian ambassador, Mueller sentencing memo confirms
Flynn's lawyers claimed he had been entrapped
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...cing-memo-sergey-kislyak-latest-a8688161.html


Mueller releases memo summarizing interview with Michael Flynn
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...view-with-michael-flynn/ar-BBR6pXt?li=BBnb7Kz

'Tucker Carlson Tonight' Loses Another Advertiser As Bowflex Backs Out

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/t...er-as-bowflex-backs-out/ar-BBR6jAG?li=BBnb7Kz

Russia used every major social network to aid Trump, Senate report finds
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/r...-network-to-aid-trump-report-finds-2018-12-16
 
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Is anyone surprised this guy is OK with an 11 year old dancing for money at a gay strip club?

Why do you and Gilsan care so much about Gays, Trans and little boys dancing? You 2 are literally the ones always starting those posts. No concern with Priests molesting kids, never heard issues with little girls in pageants etc.

I also noticed not World Wars, Vietnam, other wars, Depression, financial collapses, not all the stuff that went down during the Civil Rights Movement, fighting, leaders getting murdered etc. That didn't take down America but.................teaching kids diversity. That's the one that's going to push the country over the edge. Seal #4:

"When Jesus breaks the fourth seal, the Holy Spirit will leave Heaven’s temple and begin a campaign of horrific death and destruction which is beyond our ability to comprehend."
 
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Is anyone surprised this guy is OK with an 11 year old dancing for money at a gay strip club?

I'm actually not ok with that, or beauty pageants for kids etc. It just you and Gilsan are into those stories.

In case y'all don't know what you should be reading.

What mr-x and Gilsan thinks we should be reading:

And now people are gonna eat this TransFu+kedUp meat that will probably make their ding-a-lings thrivel...
 
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Service animals are fine. They’re trained, certified and invaluable to their handlers. They may be seeing eye dogs, seizure or diabetic crisis detection animals, trained to pick things up for someone... I don’t care what species they are as long as they’re genuine, certified service animals.

No argument there about Dogs- 100% agree, not at all part of the sarcastic comments I made up. Totally legit and necessary, except I would hope that the gov't would not allow Ponies, Peacocks or snakes become "certified" by some idiot anytime soon.

Usually it’s some pet owner who just wants to bring Fluffy with them, and they’re a public nuisance because they’re not trained. Poop all over, bite people, etc.

This is all ridiculous- like the traveling with a Pony, Airlines are really trying hard to compete I guess.

What comes out of her mouth isn’t filtered or calculated to produce good press, so I guess you could say she’s “politically incorrect”, no?

I don’t agree with most of what she says either. But why the hostility? Let’s give her some time to do her job - ignore the hype. Either she’ll fizzle out and become yesterday’s news or she’ll grow up and grow into it.

New Yorkers aren’t fooled for long, if she doesn’t come through for her constituents she’ll be done.

Hostile, really? I guess I strongly don't like Socialism. Nor anyone promoting it, She is fun to poke sarcasm at, some ideas are really so socialist that it's scary- when I read polls that young people are now buying into her agenda- this "entitled" generation some of them. Because of the ideals that made the US an economic power are now attempting to become obsoleted if younger people listen to her dangerous path and ideas. If a majority of Millennials are lemmings to her call, good luck with that program.

Bernie I don't think would ever have won, as his agenda is pure socialism and frankly it's something I am very much against the state being the answer and babysitter for those who don't want to earn their own way, on their own. Just think if you had paid back $200k just graduated from "name that overpriced school", and with student loan debt you are obligated to pay back, just like like all those before you who did pay it back- then a new "Plan" is legislated to simply excuse and eliminate the debt for your next door neighbor- who got reimbursed by the Gov't. How would you feel? Having spent $200k and they got it it for free?

Scholarships should be given to high achievers, and frankly I don't see an issue with the Gov't subsidizing smart young people who want to become part of the system, develop new things

I feel that someone should be elected based on competence, which there isn't much of in the Swamp both sides. AOC should have some PR handlers and listen to them, and study some before she gets in more trouble with these ideas. Just like Trump should have limits as to what name calling he does- it's ridiculous to hear "Adam Shit"- he can keep silent instead. This Trump twitter ranting like JB keeps pointing out, has gotten way out of hand, he just blurts out repeating things over and over (Like propaganda) or whatever comes into his mind at the moment. Some of it I get, tired of hearing about it everyday though.

I applaud new blood coming into politics, there are too many old people- but these fake, regurigitated "new ideas"- that are not new that AOC and Bernie wants to promote. Speaking of younger- Paul Ryan is swamp creature himself, a disaster- he should have named a replacement when he quit. But no.

BTW- NY'ers are smart, no argument. But.. who voted for AOC? They were fooled imo. How did the incumbent screw up anyway?
 
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I’m sorry - did I miss the TRIAL where she was TRIED AND CONVICTED of lying about the assault? No? There was no trial?

Sooo this is all just the opinion of somebody else who wasn’t there ...

Big difference between not being able to prove something vs lying about it. She had no “political gain” - she just got death threats and had to take her kids and leave her home. Money left over from the GoFundMe after covering her expenses is being donated to trauma survivors.
 
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Ahh... Just being a troll then.

If you want to talk about the economic challenges facing the USA, do it. Just don't scream the world is ending and it all Trump's fault and expect anyone but your friends to care.

I'm actually not ok with that, or beauty pageants for kids etc. It just you and Gilsan are into those stories.



What mr-x and Gilsan are into:
 
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If you want to talk about the economic challenges facing the USA, do it. Just don't scream the world is ending and it all Trump's fault and expect anyone but your friends to care.

I'm not screaming the world is ending, you guys literally are because of diversity training, trans etc. I just went over that.

The word "destruction" used by 2 different people.

"campaign of horrific death and destruction which is beyond our ability to comprehend"

"All the boxes are being checked, and I fear the only way the US will come out of this is through massive destruction"

Do you agree with that?
 
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Name one claim DR Fraud made in ANY of her statements that was true. Besides her name, age, address, names of relatives.


I’m sorry - did I miss the TRIAL where she was TRIED AND CONVICTED of lying about the assault? No? There was no trial?

Sooo this is all just the opinion of somebody else who wasn’t there ...

Big difference between not being able to prove something vs lying about it. She had no “political gain” - she just got death threats and had to take her kids and leave her home. Money left over from the GoFundMe after covering her expenses is being donated to trauma survivors.
 
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LOL... Love these videos, but sad to see the lack of knowledge of the world that they live in or any simple common sense of this dumbed out generation!
 
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Nope. You weren't here to post any more Trump hate posts, welcome back, post away!.

The Trump economy is doing great, record bookings for holiday travel speaks for itself.

https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/TSA-estimates-record-46-million-holiday-iers-13473492.php

I posted a huge list that you ignored to berate of all of the positive things happened in the past 2 years, 2 days back.

It's not doing great. Stock market not doing good. Debt and deficit out of control.

Bailouts:
"Today I am making good on my promise to defend our Farmers & Ranchers from unjustified trade retaliation by foreign nations. I have authorized Secretary Perdue to implement the 2nd round of Market Facilitation Payments. Our economy is stronger than ever–we stand with our Farmers!"
 
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I’m sorry - did I miss the TRIAL where she was TRIED AND CONVICTED of lying about the assault? No? There was no trial?

Sooo this is all just the opinion of somebody else who wasn’t there ...

Big difference between not being able to prove something vs lying about it. She had no “political gain” - she just got death threats and had to take her kids and leave her home. Money left over from the GoFundMe after covering her expenses is being donated to trauma survivors.
Just like all democrats have gone after everyone, trial or no trial...just let's convict Trump in the media....
Just go on thinking your muddled thinking.
 
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LOL... Love these videos, but sad to see the lack of knowledge or even common sense of this dumbed out generation!

It's not new either, if you saw those taped in early 2000's same thing, that was done in 2010, and some of the current voters and progressive activists are now. Maybe even one person is a Gov't employed decision maker right now.

Actually, as I recall my formal shitty CA public education in Geography ended in Elementary School. By High School in the 70's, they were too busy indoctrinating me in Civil Rights movement, Social studies in the US, etc. Last math class was geometry, last english writing class was in 8th grade- NONE in HS.
Those people in Jaywalking are the people who watch the Kardashians.
 
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Scholarships should be given to high achievers, and frankly I don't see an issue with the Gov't subsidizing smart young people who want to become part of the system, develop new thing

We agree there. I’m against free college for all partly because it would be a massive and unnecessary new expense but also because I think it would drop the standards of education in the long run. Maybe ...MAYBE ...2 year state schools only, but only if merit remains a part of it. It shouldn’t become a continuation of public high school.

Lots of people who don’t go to college make a very good living. Often more than college graduates. Everyone doesn’t need college and we need people performing skilled and technical “non college” jobs.

I do think there should be a tax break for those paying off hefty student loans.

Now healthcare is another matter. People who can’t afford proper healthcare die of treatable conditions in this country. To me, that’s ethically wrong. But nobody ever died of not getting a college education.

Miniature ponies aren’t all that. much bigger than a giant breed dog and have been certified for service work, though dogs are much more common. The larger size makes them less practical and they’re high maintenance.
 
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It's not doing great. Stock market not doing good. Debt and deficit out of control.

The stock market is not a barometer of all consumer sentiment. There are plenty of people pissing away their money on credit cards to travel- so that employs people. Consumer debt- and Pension liabilities are ridiculous. The economy as you are wll aware and is cyclical. The positive vibes caused the run up of the Fear and Greed machine on Wallstreet. and... the P/E ratios on some of these companies are way, way over bid. "Irrational exuberance" as that knucklehead Greenspan I think said.

50% of the debt was inherited by the former adminstration of BHO remember that. The Military and VA were attempted to be fixed- which is huge overhead. I read several times the tax income increased and were record collections.
 
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The stock market is not a barometer of all consumer sentiment. There are plenty of people pissing away their money on credit cards to travel- so that employs people. Consumer debt- and Pension liabilities are ridiculous. The economy as you are wll aware and is cyclical. The positive vibes caused the run up of the Fear and Greed machine on Wallstreet. and... the P/E ratios on some of these companies are way, way over bid. "Irrational exuberance" as that knucklehead Greenspan I think said.

50% of the debt was inherited by the former adminstration of BHO remember that. The Military and VA were attempted to be fixed- which is huge overhead. I read several times the tax income increased and were record collections.

Economists see the Trump economy slowing drastically next year before a possible recession in 2020
  • Economic growth pops in 2018, boosted by tax cuts, but those benefits should fade in 2019 and growth will get back to its longer-term pace of near 2 percent.
  • A group of 10 economists, including the Fed, have an average forecast of 2.4 percent for 2019, according to a CNBC survey.
  • Three big factors are behind the slower growth — fading impact of tax cuts, trade wars and tariffs and the Federal Reserve's rate-hiking policy.
  • Economists do not see a recession until 2020, at the earliest.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/21/tru...n-2019-before-possible-recession-in-2020.html
 
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Just like all democrats have gone after everyone, trial or no trial...just let's convict Trump in the media....
Just go on thinking your muddled thinking.

But we're discussing a different person and a different and very specific situation. "Whataboutism" like that is much more "muddled", imo. Not to mention a logical fallacy.

Lets keep the personal insults out of constructive discussion, shall we? They're not helpful and I don't respond to them.

BTW, I'm not a democrat.
 
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Wow...someone in NJ needs to check her freaking feelings at the door before coming in here.
 
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