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That picture of Ocasio-Cortez looks like an old pic...we all have bad pics floating around somewhere.

With Special Needs next to it. Love attacking women.

We might have WH recruiters showing up to this thread if they don't find somebody soon.
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Dirty Republicans

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signs legislation stripping incoming Democrats' power
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics/scott-walker-wisconsin/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-12-14T18:59:37&utm_medium=social

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 2h2 hours ago

"This disgraceful act, taken after losing an election, should cause Scott Walker to go down in American history as one of our most corrupt politicians ever"
Seth Abramson Retweeted The Hill

https://twitter.com/search?q="Scott Walker"&src=tren&lang=en

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"Moments after Scott Walker signed a series of bills that weakened the power of the incoming Democratic Wisconsin governor and attorney general he was sued for a potentially illegal act."
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/1...-sued-for-bill-stripping-democrats-power.html
 
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My favorite Canadian... on par with @briguy
Jordan Peterson DESTROYS Regressive BBC reporter

Jordan Peterson DESTROYS himself. :ROFL:
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1071493364837695488
Jordan B Peterson‏Verified account @jordanbpeterson
He's casually called a "climate change denier," for example, which is an appallingly treacherous term of criticism, used to denigrate someone personally by associating them with Holocaust deniers. The ethics of anyone who employs it should be instantly questioned.

guys, calling someone a climate change denier is associating them with Holocaust deniers :xf.cry::xf.laugh:

https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/791602119920848896
Jordan B Peterson‏Verified account @jordanbpeterson
U Toronto prof a Biological Sex Denier on Canadian public TV with me:
 
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With Special Needs next to it. Love attacking women.

That woke white person course is still has five spots left.

We might have WH recruiters showing up to this thread if they don't find somebody soon.
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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker signs legislation stripping incoming Democrats' power

Yeah, stripping power from the scumbag democrats who broke down doors in the middle of the night with illegal no-nock warrants and gag orders. Screw them, they can't be trusted with power.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/04/wisonsins-shame-i-thought-it-was-home-invasion-david-french/
https://www.weeklystandard.com/christian-schneider/wisconsin-the-surveillance-state
http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/11/after-john-doe-darkness-a-new-dawn-in-wisconsin/
https://concurringopinions.com/arch...-campaign-finance-laws-in-walker-dispute.html

History always starts yesterday for liberals.
 
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That woke white person course is still has five spots left.

What you call woke is just being decent, something you struggle with, especially as a supposed Christian. So attack women, make fun of special needs.

And I knew you would come defending that bum Walker, your original pick for President. You support all the dirty candidates.
 
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What you call woke is just being decent, something you struggle with, especially as a supposed Christian. So attack women, make fun of special needs.

What would you know about being decent? You have no problem posting racist bs or generalizing about people you don't like.

If you can't take a joke, keep quiet.
 
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What would you know about being decent?

You could learn. Your posts in this thread aren't invisible.

I've never posted racist bs, that's you, I've literally quoted you Mr. White Republican. The only thing you've ever came up with is a Kanye West meme I posted, where if you look at it, only 1 person was using the term house negro, you, not me. I said he was a sellout for hugging up on some racist. Which is correct. Nothing racist about that. That's you being desperate and stupid.

So besides you being Mr. White Republican, anti-Muslim, anti-Gay, attacking sexual assault victims, supporting pedos, supporting anti-Semite and racist sites, and now Special Needs jokes. You're the one who's going to teach people about being decent? Get a grip. You're delusional as the "horrible person" you support every day.

And Scott Walker is known bum, he just showed it again.
 
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You post racist, bigoted content on a regular basis. Including insisting "white republican" is racist.

How many times have you insulted Sarah Palin? Your sensitive nature is pretty selective.


You could learn. Your posts in this thread aren't invisible.

I've never posted racist bs, that's you, I've literally quoted you Mr. White Republican. The only thing you've ever came up with is a Kanye West meme I posted, where if you look at it, only 1 person was using the term house negro, you, not me. I said he was a sellout for hugging up on some racist. Which is correct. Nothing racist about that. That's you being desperate and stupid.

So besides you being Mr. White Republican, anti-Muslim, anti-Gay, attacking sexual assault victims, supporting pedos, supporting anti-Semite and racist sites, and now Special Needs jokes. You're the one who's going to teach people about decent? Get a grip. You're delusional as the "horrible person" you support every day.


Post a picture comparing Kanye to a race traitor is racist. You can keep denying but really, you should consider learning how to check your privledge.
 
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You post racist, bigoted content on a regular basis..

False, besides the Kayne West meme, which has you posting "house negro", show me even 1 thing that you think is racist. I'm not racist, so that would be impossible. You on the other hand is another story. And Sarah Palin, of course, she's an idiot. Which has what to do with racism or special needs? I've never attached that to her.

But next post, go ahead and quote me.
 
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Does it bother you that FBI investigator, McCabe told Flynn he didn't need a lawyer, didn't tell him it was an interview for a criminal investigation?

Now that's just plain funny. I don't care who you are.

A National Security Advisor, when told by the FBI director that the FBI has questions about Flynn's repeated denials of meetings with Russians during the campaign, needs to be advised to have a lawyer present and needs to be advised that he shouldn't lie?

That's just funny right there, and someone else finds it to be amusing as well:

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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5628464-Govt-reply-to-Flynn.html

The defendant chose to make false statements about his communications with the
Russian ambassador weeks before the FBI interview, when he lied about that topic to the media,
the incoming Vice President, and other members of the Presidential Transition Team. When
faced with the FBI’s questions on January 24, during an interview that was voluntary and
cordial, the defendant repeated the same false statements.


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The defendant made his decision to lie about his communications with the Russian
ambassador two weeks before his interview with the FBI.


On January 12, 2017, The Washington Post published a story asserting that the defendant had spoken with the Russian ambassador on December 29, 2016, the day the United States announced sanctions and other measures against Russia in response to that government’s actions intended to interfere with the 2016 election (collectively, “sanctions”).

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The defendant asked a subordinate member of the Presidential Transition Team to contact the Post on the morning of January 13 and convey false information about the defendant’s communications with the Russian
ambassador. The “UPDATE” included at the end of the Post story later reported that two members of the Presidential Transition Team stated that the defendant “didn’t cover” sanctions in his conversation with the Russian ambassador. Id.

Over the next two weeks, the defendant repeated the same false statements to multiple
members of the Presidential Transition Team, including Vice President-Elect Michael Pence,
incoming White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, and incoming White House Press
Secretary Sean Spicer. Those officials then repeated the defendant’s false statements on national
television.


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The circumstances of the defendant’s interview also show that his decision to make false
statements was voluntary and intentional. The FBI Deputy Director, Andrew McCabe, informed
the defendant about the topic of the interview. See Memorandum of Andrew McCabe dated
January 24, 2017 (“McCabe Memo”) (Attachment A) (McCabe called defendant to arrange the
interview and explained that the FBI needed to talk to him in light of the “media coverage and
public discussion about his recent contacts with Russian representatives.”). When the defendant
asked McCabe if the questions would concern “his contact with the Russian Ambassador to the
United States,” McCabe confirmed they would. Id. During the interview, the FBI agents gave
the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions.


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A sitting National Security Advisor, former head of an intelligence agency, retired
Lieutenant General, and 33-year veteran of the armed forces knows he should not lie to federal
agents. He does not need to be warned it is a crime to lie to federal agents to know the
importance of telling them the truth.
The defendant undoubtedly was aware, in light of his
“many years” working with the FBI, that lying to the FBI carries serious consequences. See Def.
Sent Mem. at 8. He, unlike Van der Zwaan and Papadapoulous, was a senior national security
official with extensive federal government experience, had led an intelligence agency, had
worked with the FBI, and was steeped in the importance of accurate information to decision
making in areas of national security.

The defendant agreed to meet with the FBI agents, without counsel, and answer their
questions. His obligation to provide truthful information came with that agreement; it did not
turn on the presence of counsel. Moreover, as the defendant has admitted, weeks after the
January 24 interview, he made materially false statements in filings he provided to another
branch of the Department of Justice pursuant to the Foreign Agents Registration Act (“FARA”).
See Statement of Offense at ¶ 5, United States v. Flynn, No. 17-cr-232 (D.D.C. Dec. 1, 2017)
(Doc. 4). The defendant made those false statements while represented by counsel and after
receiving an explicit warning that providing false information was a federal offense.

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You are seriously going to sit there and pretend that (a) a sitting National Security Advisor needs to get the opinion of his lawyer before agreeing to a voluntary discussion with the FBI on a known topic, and (b) he would have no idea that he should tell the truth otherwise, and (c) that if he had his lawyer there he magically WOULDN'T repeat the same lie he'd been telling everyone for WEEKS?

That's just some funny shit right there.

I advise legal clients all god-damned day, and if there is anyone who thinks any voluntary conversation with any law enforcement officer is not subject to having your own statements in that context be used for any purpose, then you have just not been paying attention.

He was a g-damned National Security Advisor who had been working for the FBI for decades. The notion that they were coming to ask them about his statements about Russian contacts because it was just an excuse to come over and say "hello" is just absurd.
 
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So besides you being Mr. White Republican, anti-Muslim, anti-Gay, attacking sexual assault victims, supporting pedos, supporting anti-Semite and racist sites, and now Special Needs jokes. You're the one who's going to teach people about being decent? Get a grip. You're delusional as the "horrible person" you support every day.

Criticizing people, stating facts doesn't make me anti-anything.
 
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Now that's just plain funny. I don't care who you are.

A National Security Advisor, when told by the FBI director that the FBI has questions about Flynn's repeated denials of meetings with Russians during the campaign, needs to be advised to have a lawyer present and needs to be advised that he shouldn't lie?

That's just funny right there, and someone else finds it to be amusing as well:

His lawyers didn't think it was funny. The first FBI agent didn't think his lies were of consequence. I'm not a lawyer so will defer to your judgement on the the law but will wait for a judge to decide which side is telling the truth.

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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5628464-Govt-reply-to-Flynn.html

The defendant chose to make false statements about his communications with the
Russian ambassador weeks before the FBI interview, when he lied about that topic to the media,
the incoming Vice President, and other members of the Presidential Transition Team. When
faced with the FBI’s questions on January 24, during an interview that was voluntary and
cordial, the defendant repeated the same false statements.


...

The defendant made his decision to lie about his communications with the Russian
ambassador two weeks before his interview with the FBI.


On January 12, 2017, The Washington Post published a story asserting that the defendant had spoken with the Russian ambassador on December 29, 2016, the day the United States announced sanctions and other measures against Russia in response to that government’s actions intended to interfere with the 2016 election (collectively, “sanctions”).

...

The defendant asked a subordinate member of the Presidential Transition Team to contact the Post on the morning of January 13 and convey false information about the defendant’s communications with the Russian
ambassador. The “UPDATE” included at the end of the Post story later reported that two members of the Presidential Transition Team stated that the defendant “didn’t cover” sanctions in his conversation with the Russian ambassador. Id.

Over the next two weeks, the defendant repeated the same false statements to multiple
members of the Presidential Transition Team, including Vice President-Elect Michael Pence,
incoming White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus, and incoming White House Press
Secretary Sean Spicer. Those officials then repeated the defendant’s false statements on national
television.


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The circumstances of the defendant’s interview also show that his decision to make false
statements was voluntary and intentional. The FBI Deputy Director, Andrew McCabe, informed
the defendant about the topic of the interview. See Memorandum of Andrew McCabe dated
January 24, 2017 (“McCabe Memo”) (Attachment A) (McCabe called defendant to arrange the
interview and explained that the FBI needed to talk to him in light of the “media coverage and
public discussion about his recent contacts with Russian representatives.”). When the defendant
asked McCabe if the questions would concern “his contact with the Russian Ambassador to the
United States,” McCabe confirmed they would. Id. During the interview, the FBI agents gave
the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions.


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A sitting National Security Advisor, former head of an intelligence agency, retired
Lieutenant General, and 33-year veteran of the armed forces knows he should not lie to federal
agents. He does not need to be warned it is a crime to lie to federal agents to know the
importance of telling them the truth.
The defendant undoubtedly was aware, in light of his
“many years” working with the FBI, that lying to the FBI carries serious consequences. See Def.
Sent Mem. at 8. He, unlike Van der Zwaan and Papadapoulous, was a senior national security
official with extensive federal government experience, had led an intelligence agency, had
worked with the FBI, and was steeped in the importance of accurate information to decision
making in areas of national security.

The defendant agreed to meet with the FBI agents, without counsel, and answer their
questions. His obligation to provide truthful information came with that agreement; it did not
turn on the presence of counsel. Moreover, as the defendant has admitted, weeks after the
January 24 interview, he made materially false statements in filings he provided to another
branch of the Department of Justice pursuant to the Foreign Agents Registration Act (“FARA”).
See Statement of Offense at ¶ 5, United States v. Flynn, No. 17-cr-232 (D.D.C. Dec. 1, 2017)
(Doc. 4). The defendant made those false statements while represented by counsel and after
receiving an explicit warning that providing false information was a federal offense.

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You are seriously going to sit there and pretend that (a) a sitting National Security Advisor needs to get the opinion of his lawyer before agreeing to a voluntary discussion with the FBI on a known topic, and (b) he would have no idea that he should tell the truth otherwise, and (c) that if he had his lawyer there he magically WOULDN'T repeat the same lie he'd been telling everyone for WEEKS?

That's just some funny sh*t right there.

I advise legal clients all god-damned day, and if there is anyone who thinks any voluntary conversation with any law enforcement officer is not subject to having your own statements in that context be used for any purpose, then you have just not been paying attention.

He was a g-damned National Security Advisor who had been working for the FBI for decades. The notion that they were coming to ask them about his statements about Russian contacts because it was just an excuse to come over and say "hello" is just absurd.

Are you going to pretend there wasn't a double standard for James Comey who was allowed to correct the record? I don't even know if the circumstances are the same but I know special treatment when I see it.
 
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I'm not a lawyer so will defer to your judgement on the the law but will wait for a judge to decide which side is telling the truth.

That's not what's happening here.

While I'm not at all surprised you obviously don't understand what is going on here, or the context of these arguments, it is not at all about whether any side is telling the truth.

These are sentencing memorandums. Obviously his lawyers are trying to minimize the offense TO WHICH HE HAS ALREADY PLEADED GUILTY.

This isn't a trial. This is a sentencing proceeding for a person who admits that he has committed multiple felonies.

Why not read the memorandum. It is written in English and I am certain your shoot from the hip response was not done after reading my excerpts, let alone the entire thing.
 
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Flynn knew better but I will wait for the judge to decide if there was entrapment.

That's not what's happening here.

While I'm not at all surprised you obviously don't understand what is going on here, or the context of these arguments, it is not at all about whether any side is telling the truth.

These are sentencing memorandums. Obviously his lawyers are trying to minimize the offense TO WHICH HE HAS ALREADY PLEADED GUILTY.

This isn't a trial. This is a sentencing proceeding for a person who admits that he has committed multiple felonies.

FBI's entrapment of General Flynn was despicable
by Quin Hillyer | December 14, 2018 01:48 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/fbis-entrapment-of-general-flynn-was-despicable

Flynn has been bankrupted. I've read in Flynn's son was also threatened. People plead for a lot of different reasons. Muller isn't a saint.
 
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False, besides the Kayne West meme, which has you posting "house negro", show me even 1 thing that you think is racist. I'm not racist, so that would be impossible. You on the other hand is another story. And Sarah Palin, of course, she's an idiot. Which has what to do with racism or special needs? I've never attached that to her.

But next post, go ahead and quote me.

I guess generalizing about Christians, black conservatives, people you don't like isn't racist or bigoted if your a liberal.
 
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I guess generalizing about Christians, black conservatives, people you don't like isn't racist or bigoted if your a liberal.

I'm not seeing a quote. As an example, when I talk about Candace Owens, I'm very specific with examples. She was a fraud. I gave you my reasons, linked to another article going thru it all, posted about Kanye figuring out she was a fraud. Christians, my only issue are fundamentalist types or types like you, not the mind your own business types. With you, you want to take your beliefs into interfering with other people's lives. Like your views against gay marriage, that you think somehow harms society. Ann wanting to marry Becky, is none of your business, doesn't harm society. And those views don't go along with one of the more ridiculous things you've posted, that you were a Live and Let Live type of person.
 
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You really need me to post all of your Kanye post again?? Scroll back to yesterday when you generalized about the Christians being child molesters.

I'm not seeing a quote. As an example, when I talk about Candace Owens, I'm very specific with examples. She was a fraud. I gave you my reasons, linked to another article going thru it all, posted about Kanye figuring out she was a fraud. Christians, my only issue are fundamentalist types or types like you, not the mind your own business types. With you, you want to take your beliefs into interfering with other people's lives. Like your views against gay marriage, that you think somehow harms society. Ann wanting to marry Becky, is none of your business, doesn't harm society. And those views don't go along with one of the more ridiculous things you've posted, that you were a Live and Let Live type of person.

I don't need lessons in morality from a hypocrite like you. I can disagree with people, even disapprove of their choices and still like / love them. Facts are facts john boy.
 
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You really need me to post all of your Kanye post again?? Scroll back to yesterday when you generalized about the Christians being child molesters.

I don't need lessons in morality from a hypocrite like you. Unlike you, I can disagree with people, even disapprove of their choices and still like / love them.

Really. I didn't generalize. I posted there is a lot of child molestation cases with the Catholic church. You on the other hand, along with Gilsan like to generalize with Trans folks. Oh, that's nice, you still love gay people, even tho you think them being able to get married harms society. I'm sure they appreciate it and care what you think on the subject.
 
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Really. I didn't generalize. I posted there is a lot of child molestation cases with the Catholic church. You on the other hand, along with Gilsan like to generalize with Trans folks. Oh, that's nice, you still love gay people, even tho you think them being able to get married harms society. I'm sure they appreciate it and care what you think on the subject.
 
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Katie Hopkins‏Verified account @KTHopkins 9 hours ago
A 7yr old girl dies at the America border from dehydration and exhaustion This is a tragedy. But one of parental neglect. Her parents should be charged with manslaughter It is not the Border Force trying to uphold the law to blame. But the parents who did this to their child

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