The USA Political Thread

lennco · Jul 20, 2012

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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atinc · Dec 12, 2018

Kate said:
Not at all. Massive blunder. Self-inflicted disaster. But it's not my call.

Love the response

If I were British I would def. vote no for the Brexit. It's going to destroy Europe. Unstability.. Than probably a war.. Hate to say that but its true. Considering an egoistic man like Trump being president to the States and already showed his aggression with his weird hand shakes and talks with world leaders... Future is not so hard to predict. And its gonna suck for all humanity.

JB Lions · Dec 12, 2018

mr-x said:
Donald Trump is my president because I'm an American. I'm happy I voted for him and would do the same in the same circumstances.

Your anti-American BS gets old.

......................

You said you voted for him because you thought he would get impeached and really wanted Pence.

mr-x said:
Donald Trump is a horrible person.

mr-x said:
Hahah.. you're right. Trump is a major douche.. I'm only voting for him b/c I think he'll get impeached and Mike Pence will be President.

mr-x said:
Yep - I never said Trump was honest or capable of being Pres. I said he'd get impeached and Mick Pence would be a great president.

mr-x said:
I think Trump's conflicts are dangerous and could lead to his impeachment if he's not careful. Countries around the world will be sucking up to his family for political access.

Kate · Dec 12, 2018

atinc said:
Considering an egoistic man like Trump being president to the States and already showed his aggression with his weird hand shakes and talks with world leaders... Future is not so hard to predict. And its gonna suck for all humanity.

Russia is an even bigger problem. The war is already raging on in Ukraine. And it is not just a war against Ukraine, it is a war on Europe, on the West, against us.
Trump is not interested in taming Putin. Quite the opposite.

That's the problem with today's world, no rules, no multilateral decision making. Despots gaining the upper hand, dictating the agenda, even being enabled by so-called democracies.

Unfortunately, the US since GWB has become a destabilizing force for the rest of the world. The big mistake was to ditch multilateral action, which underpins international order.
When the US decides to invade a country based on lies and doctored evidence, and get away with it, it's not surprising that Russia feels entitled to the same.
We have a broken planet.

The US is the only country not part of the Paris accord, the stronghold of climate change deniers. Trump does not care, he's not admitting we have a problem and is even willing to accelerate the downfall of civilization. Doesn't care. But in truth he doesn't love his own country very much either. If he did, he would behave differently. That begins with treating citizens with respect, even those who did not vote for him and even those who are not White Straight Males.

enlytend · Dec 12, 2018

johname said:
There always the Pence is the next President, Do a Ford Back Up Plan.

I’m sure he’s hoping. His face during that dumpster fire yesterday said it all. He seems like he’s trying to keep a low profile and stay off radar. However, he was in charge of the transition so he may not get out of this unscathed.

Kate said:
He, on the other hand. Free pass. Cheat on taxes, cheat on his wife, cheat on Americans, cheat on the rest of the world except Russia. Cheat on the electoral process. Undermine institutions. Obstruct justice. And brag about it.

You missed the hundreds of small businesses he cheated back in his real estate days, long before he announced his candidacy. And the scam university, and...

mr-x · Dec 12, 2018

Democrat Rep for California, Ted Lieu wants to regulate speech.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018...o-regulate-and-its-absolutely-pathetic-video/

mr-x · Dec 12, 2018

You stand up for corrupt liberals and let hatred blind you.

Kate said:
Anti-American ? I stand up for old-fashioned American values, that you ditched for no reason.

He loves people like you, hard-working, law-abiding Americans who pay taxes and who are gullible.
He, on the other hand. Free pass. Cheat on taxes, cheat on his wife, cheat on Americans, cheat on the rest of the world except Russia. Cheat on the electoral process. Undermine institutions. Obstruct justice. And brag about it.

17 candidates to choose from and they picked the absolute worst and the least competent.

The liberal media complex gave Donald Trump over a 10 of millions of $$ in free advertising. They ignored real conservatives with experience, even when they won large states.

Liberals like to pretend history started yesterday so they can spew bullshit talking points. People like me voted for Donald Trump because we were tried of corrupt politicians like Obama and Hillary selling out America.

The wheels of justice are turning. Justice will be rendered, for your own good.

Face it, he already belongs to the trash bin of History, do you want to go down with him.

Not at all. Massive blunder. Self-inflicted disaster. But it's not my call.

Weird you didn't talk about the wheels of Justice when Hillary was being given private interviews and and her aids all got immunity.

Kate · Dec 12, 2018

enlytend said:
You missed the hundreds of small businesses he cheated back in his real estate days, long before he announced his candidacy. And the scam university, and...

And the casino. And the money laundering violations. And the housing discrimination. And the numerous sexual assault and harassment affairs. And...

JB Lions · Dec 12, 2018

Kate said:
And the casino. And the money laundering violations. And the housing discrimination. And the numerous sexual assault and harassment affairs. And...

And the Trump University Fraud, Trump Foundation Fraud...........

He's lived a fraudulent life. Horrible person.

Kate said:
When the US decides to invade a country based on lies and doctored evidence, and get away with it, it's not surprising that Russia feels entitled to the same.

I just watched the Director's Cut of Fair Game last night on Netflix, going into that - https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fair_game_2010

Also Shock and Awe awhile back - https://www.dispatch.com/entertainm...ists-right-about-iraq-war-but-no-one-listened

Of course Trump pardoned Scooter Libby, one of the people behind leaking her name -
Trump issues pardon for Lewis 'Scooter' Libby

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/13/trump-pardon-scooter-libby-522055

Valerie Plame, her hubby was talking too much (the truth) so they were trying to silence them.

That movie:
As a covert officer in the CIA's Counter-Proliferation Division, Valerie leads an investigation into the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Valerie's husband, diplomat JOE WILSON (Sean Penn), is drawn into the investigation to substantiate an alleged sale of enriched uranium from Niger. But when the administration ignores his findings and uses the issue to support the call to war, Joe writes a New York Times editorial outlining his conclusions and ignites a firestorm of controversy.

Kate · Dec 12, 2018

I bet he already signed his own pardon and keeps it close to his chest.

iowadawg · Dec 12, 2018

iowadawg · Dec 12, 2018

Chicago gun laws are the toughest in the country and yet the Southside of Chicago, which
is predominantly black, is a shooting gallery and has one of the highest murder rates from firearms. And yet the white leadership of Chicago does little or nothing and liberal
judges turn a blind eye to black on black homicides.

GILSAN · Dec 12, 2018

atinc said:
We have sources that a lot of Turkish women and children were raped and burned at mosques by Armenians in Ottoman soils.

So they have been deported under hard weather conditions and so many have died because of hunger and cold weather which is unfortunate. But this is war, they have been deported for a reason. That is war. AND IT SUCKS.

I am Turkish

Where did you learn this from... The Turkish history books?

atinc said:
I hate Erdogan, but this genocide thing is full of bullsh*t.

So please stop talking about a fake genocide which you don't have a single valid idea or information.

A Fake Genocide? You must have just landed here from another planet!

I thought you said a lot of Armenians died when they were deported? Then you say it's fake! Why are you contradicting yourself? The Turks have always denied this Armenian Genocide, so your opinion is meaningless, just like the opinion of those that deny the Holocaust.

The Ottoman Empire spread evil wherever they went. They were also responsible for the enslavement of 1.2 million Europeans, mostly women who were captured by the Barbary Pirates and sold as Sex slaves in North African and Middle East Markets.

But it wasn't just Europeans they enslaved. They made slaves of all the people whose territory they conquered.

Ask the Greeks what they have to say about the Turks during their 300+ years of occupation, or their invasion of Cyprus.

iowadawg · Dec 12, 2018

mr-x · Dec 12, 2018

Kate said:
Soon you will be saying there is no crime.

Amazing how muh Russia turned into campaign fiance violations.

mr-x · Dec 12, 2018

Kate said:
Anti-American ? I stand up for old-fashioned American values, that you ditched for no reason.

He loves people like you, hard-working, law-abiding Americans who pay taxes and who are gullible.
He, on the other hand. Free pass. Cheat on taxes, cheat on his wife, cheat on Americans, cheat on the rest of the world except Russia. Cheat on the electoral process. Undermine institutions. Obstruct justice. And brag about it.

17 candidates to choose from and they picked the absolute worst and the least competent.

The wheels of justice are turning. Justice will be rendered, for your own good.

Face it, he already belongs to the trash bin of History, do you want to go down with him.

Shorter: I hate Trump. I don't like American except for the east and west coast and that place I live.

Not at all. Massive blunder. Self-inflicted disaster. But it's not my call.

Liberals would rather be ruled by potentate bureaucrats.

GILSAN · Dec 12, 2018

mr-x said:
This is politically motivated harassment, not law enforcement.

Incoming New York attorney general Letitia James will use her new office to first and foremost investigate President Donald Trump, his family, and his associates.

“We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well,” James recently told NBC News.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortn...-ny-attorney-general-already-targeting-trump-n2537378

In the Image of Joseph Stalin — Incoming NY AG Promises to Target and Destroy Trump and Family — Will Find a Crime Later!

Joseph Stalin’s henchman Lavrently once famously said, “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”
This is today’s Democrat party.
Give them the Republican and they’ll show you the crime.

They are nothing more than Stalinist thugs.

Andrew Cuomo, Bill de Blasio, Chuck Schumer, Alexadria Ocasio-Cortez and now Letitia James.
New York is full of Sewer Rats, more commonly known as DemonRats

offthehandle · Dec 12, 2018

JB Lions said:
Michael Cohen just addressed a tweet from his former boss, President Donald Trump.

"Recently the President tweeted a statement calling me weak and it was correct but for a much different reason than he was implying. It was because time and time again I felt it was my duty to cover up his dirty deeds."

"This may seem hard to believe," Cohen told the court, "but today is one of the most meaningful days of my life. I have been living in a personal and mental incarceration ever since the day that I accepted the offer to work for a real estate mogul whose business acumen that I deeply admired."

Now he has a meaningful day? He makes it sound as though he did everything at gunpoint, under extortion, etc. The guy is a tax dodger and pleaded guilty to crimes nothing to do with President, just like everybody else in DC caught lying. Bushes, Obama, Clintons all lied. The Swamp is built on lies and misrepresentation as they rape and pillage the average tax payer with all their programs and over taxation. The monetary system and Wall Street is a big lie.

Google and Facebook lie and misrepresent. GE and every Corporate CEO lie. SA lies, EU lies.... name someone or corporation that is honest. Zero.

The culture of advertising and consumerism is a lie. Insurance companies misrepresent and lie.

That is the honest truth. Lol.

I laugh my entire life at Lydon’s statement.

offthehandle · Dec 12, 2018

enlytend said:
Conspiracy theory and clickbait sites are being deprecated. Also anything promoting hate or violence.

Clickbait is b.s. for sure. But.... Apple and Google decides? censors? Who decides what is conspiracy, speculation and the truth? Thats my issue. If we all believe WSJ, AP, Reuters, CNN or Fox or whatever prints is news we are believing skewed agendas and lies. The mainstream media machine is one big opinion and much of it based on an agenda and stretched truth is still a lie.

I used to trust Walter Cronkite (though he was force fed a script too) but reported, not commented or opined. 60 minutes at one time was a real investigative show, the only thing I watched or tried to Sundays when I was in my 20’s. Investigative reports of all sorts of crazy things. Ted Koppell Nightline, 20/20, John Stossel too.

Since 2016 the air waves are 24 hrs of Trump love or hate.

Youtube have videos with huge subscriber bases that have non mainstream news, on the ground reporting, etc its nice to see, but if Google won’t rank them you really need to dig to find them.

.X. · Dec 12, 2018

I am really liking an O’Roark -? Ticket in 2020.

O’Roark carries many of the qualities of both Ron Paul and Bernie Sanders IMO.

The ? Candidate that will run with O’Roark has to be a influential strong Candidate for the ticket to materialize IMO.

O’Roark is not extremely liberal or conservative IMO, he has the great qualities to be an excellent leader and President for the people.

There is far too much battling going on between the two parties right now, although it can be entertaining at times, we are getting nowhere and a large recession is looming IMO

I like Joe Biden, but at 75 , and would be 77 at election time, I think that is just a bit to old to come in and try and take on the fucking mess he would be faced with.

offthehandle · Dec 12, 2018

Kate said:
Unfortunately, the US since GWB has become a destabilizing force for the rest of the world. The big mistake was to ditch multilateral action, which underpins international order.
When the US decides to invade a country based on lies and doctored evidence, and get away with it, it's not surprising that Russia feels entitled to the same.
We have a broken planet.

I agree on this paragraph, you forgot China’s rise also, aided by the elite money interests. GWB New World Order BS globalists puppeteers. Russia and China both are influencing in western hemisphere like in S. America.

“QUITO, Ecuador — Rafael Correa wanted to fast-track development projects when he was president of Ecuador, so he borrowed billions of dollars from China. But the loans have come back to haunt his successor, Lenin Moreno, who will go hat in hand to China this month to seek more flexible terms and breathing space.

A onetime ally and now bitter enemy of Correa, Moreno and his government are straining under a huge budget deficit caused partly by obligations to the Chinese, whose loans financed roads, dams, schools and office buildings during Correa’s time in office from 2007 to 2017.”

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/new...cle_3456b756-956e-57ec-a869-94251437ae9a.html

.X. · Dec 12, 2018

offthehandle said:
Clickbait is b.s. for sure. But.... Apple and Google decides? censors? Who decides what is conspiracy, speculation and the truth? Thats my issue. If we all believe WSJ, AP, Reuters, CNN or Fox or whatever prints is news we are believing skewed agendas and lies. The mainstream media machine is one big opinion and much of it based on an agenda and stretched truth is still a lie.

I used to trust Walter Cronkite (though he was force fed a script too) but reported, not commented or opined. 60 minutes at one time was a real investigative show, the only thing I watched or tried to Sundays when I was in my 20’s. Investigative reports of all sorts of crazy things. Ted Koppell Nightline, 20/20, John Stossel too.

Since 2016 the air waves are 24 hrs of Trump love or hate.

Youtube have videos with huge subscriber bases that have non mainstream news, on the ground reporting, etc its nice to see, but if Google won’t rank them you really need to dig to find them.

We can thank Washington as a whole , the Democratics and Republicans alike for letting Google, Amazon, Walmart monopolize to the point of running our lives , with out us having any say so, these monopolies should have never happened, period. Let’s not forget Facebook as well. These types of monopolies absolutely destroy the American Dream for us.

mr-x · Dec 12, 2018

Rand Paul is hard core libertarian, Bernie Sanders is a hardcore socialist / communist light who thinks bread lines are good.

.X. · Dec 13, 2018

mr-x said:
Rand Paul is hard core libertarian, Bernie Sanders is a hardcore socialist / communist light who thinks bread lines are good.

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Good point, I agree about Rand, Ron on the other hand knows his shit and has always had the best interest of the American people as his agenda.

Bernie Sanders,,I have to disagree with you on this one, He doesn’t play politics, he knows we are running out of time to play politics. Although very straight forward, and not up for a bunch of monkey BS, his views are very thorough on taking care of the American people first IMO

mr-x · Dec 13, 2018

Kate ignores that Bush went to AG because they attacked us. The world wasn't stable before GWB because Islamist extremist want to destroy the word.

offthehandle said:
I agree on this paragraph, you forgot China’s rise also, aided by the elite money interests. GWB New World Order BS globalists puppeteers. Russia and China both are influencing in western hemisphere like in S. America.

“QUITO, Ecuador — Rafael Correa wanted to fast-track development projects when he was president of Ecuador, so he borrowed billions of dollars from China. But the loans have come back to haunt his successor, Lenin Moreno, who will go hat in hand to China this month to seek more flexible terms and breathing space.

A onetime ally and now bitter enemy of Correa, Moreno and his government are straining under a huge budget deficit caused partly by obligations to the Chinese, whose loans financed roads, dams, schools and office buildings during Correa’s time in office from 2007 to 2017.”

https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/new...cle_3456b756-956e-57ec-a869-94251437ae9a.html

mr-x · Dec 13, 2018

.X. said:
Good point, I agree about Rand, Ron on the other hand knows his sh*t and has always had the best interest of the American people as his agenda.

Bernie Sanders,,I have to disagree with you on this one, He doesn’t play politics, he knows we are running out of time to play politics. Although very straight forward, and not up for a bunch of monkey BS, his views are very thorough on taking care of the American people first IMO

All three men have good and bad points but Father and Son share the same politics. Go to Ron Pauls website, he doesn't even like public education. Has a home school program from 1st grade to 12th. Lots of successful grads too.

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