question Self-hosted or hosted domain portfolio?

Atta · Oct 20, 2018

The question is pretty much self-explanatory.

How are you managing your domain name portfolio? / What are your future plans for managing your domains?

I would appreciate your response.

Thanks.

Recons.Com · Nov 8, 2018

MapleDots said:
I have not lost any sales because of it yet, in fact I make sales because of it.

Price 1 = lower with all the supplied info
Price 2 = higher, you can buy incognito

If anything I form has generated sales for me.

How would you know about the lost ones?

I needed a name for news ones with xxxx budget. Went through my shortlist of about 30 names and ignored ones asking my info, bought one of the names that clear reasonable bin.

MapleDots · Nov 8, 2018

Recons.Com said:
How would you know about the lost ones?

I needed a name for news ones with xxxx budget. Went through my shortlist of about 30 names and ignored ones asking my info, bought one of the names that clear reasonable bin.

I cannot answer your question other than to say if you really wanted my domain you would inquire, that is the thing about having a good/great domain the demand is there.

I can only say for sure that my last 6 months have been among my more profitable months and that is also the time I started my new system of directing any incoming inquiries to my form.

MapleDots said:
I respond.

The proper way to address a purchase from MapleDots is to use our contact form at:

www.mapledots.ca/contact

Once you establish an opening bid we would be happy to start the negotiating process with you.

.X. · Nov 8, 2018

I do both, although I don’t point all my portfolio to my personal website

ThatNameGuy · Dec 8, 2018

kam said:
Self-host is always the best. You can do a lot of customization that create competitive advantage.

Let's say I am familiar with VB.net framework. I can easily create a desktop application to connection to mysql database and make it much more convenience for bulk edit.
I found that web interface is always not the best for those task. I can even add some some new fields into the datatable and using my app to update those record

3rd party hosted is only a temporary solution for those haven't build up their own site yet.
I believed every serious domainer will finally go for self-host when their portfolio getting bigger and bigger.

The bigger reason I don't like 3rd party hosted service is because those public nameservers had million of domains point to them. It will be finally detected and blocked by ad-blockers.

The big corporation must have firewall installed. What if the 3rd party nameserver unlucky got blocked by those firewall / adblocker. It may lead to we lose a potential sales from big buyer.

Kam

Kam...I agree with you totally. I've known this to be the case all along, but old time traditional domainers don't want us hosting our own domains. I don't have the technical expertise that you have, but I can either partner with what I need, or I can hire it once the cash starts flowing. It's mostly because I have a business model/plan behind 80% of my domains that adds more value than any third 3rd party could possibly add.
We think a lot alike even though we're 12,000 miles apart. Good Luck Kam!

Bulloney aka ThatNameGuy™

dncafe · Dec 11, 2018

The problem with a lot of these listing pages or selling platforms, they don't offer your domain name much exposure. Sure, you might sell a domain name through them, but the buyer most likely did not find the domain name through that platform service. They found it by typing in your domain name.

So why pay a landing page a % of your money when they didn't help market your domain name?

For end user domain names, let's say NewYorkRoofing.com, a roofing company who might want to buy this name probably knows nothing about domain names. So if they type in the domain and land on a page at a service like Efty, they don't know anything about Efty, it's a service they have never heard of. So Efty is not offering you much credibility in terms of selling the domain, so why not put up your own sales page and keep 100% of the profit?

Who is the most well know domain registrar in the country, the company running Super Bowl ads and large marketing campaigns? GoDaddy. Where are many Americans going to go when they want to find a domain? GoDaddy.

Listing your domain for sale on GoDaddy Auction will give your domain more exposure to end buyers than any other listing service. First thing many people do when wanting to register a domain name is go to GoDaddy and type it in. If it's listed there, your domain will pop up with a option to buy it.

You can put your own landing page up on NewYorkRoofing.com with a Buy Now or Make Offer, as well as list it on GoDaddy Auctions. If a potential buyer doesn't feel comfortable paying you directly, you can link them to the GoDaddy Auction, a company they are comfortable with. If you don't want to put up a sales page you can do a free URL forward through the domain registrar to your GoDaddy Auction.

I don't like GoDaddy and do not use them as my main registrar, but without a doubt, they are the most popular and well known domain company, and that can be a big advantage when selling your domain.

creataweb · Dec 11, 2018

dncafe said:
The problem with a lot of these listing pages or selling platforms, they don't offer your domain name much exposure. Sure, you might sell a domain name through them, but the buyer most likely did not find the domain name through that platform service. They found it by typing in your domain name.

So why pay a landing page a % of your money when they didn't help market your domain name?

For end user domain names, let's say NewYorkRoofing.com, a roofing company who might want to buy this name probably knows nothing about domain names. So if they type in the domain and land on a page at a service like Efty, they don't know anything about Efty, it's a service they have never heard of. So Efty is not offering you much credibility in terms of selling the domain, so why not put up your own sales page and keep 100% of the profit?

Who is the most well know domain registrar in the country, the company running Super Bowl ads and large marketing campaigns? GoDaddy. Where are many Americans going to go when they want to find a domain? GoDaddy.

Listing your domain for sale on GoDaddy Auction will give your domain more exposure to end buyers than any other listing service. First thing many people do when wanting to register a domain name is go to GoDaddy and type it in. If it's listed there, your domain will pop up with a option to buy it.

You can put your own landing page up on NewYorkRoofing.com with a Buy Now or Make Offer, as well as list it on GoDaddy Auctions. If a potential buyer doesn't feel comfortable paying you directly, you can link them to the GoDaddy Auction, a company they are comfortable with. If you don't want to put up a sales page you can do a free URL forward through the domain registrar to your GoDaddy Auction.

I don't like GoDaddy and do not use them as my main registrar, but without a doubt, they are the most popular and well known domain company, and that can be a big advantage when selling your domain.

Too many issues with GD imo but also you need a membership for auctions at $5 a year - regular folks aren't paying $5 to use GD auctions.

dncafe · Dec 11, 2018

creataweb said:
Too many issues with GD imo but also you need a membership for auctions at $5 a year - regular folks aren't paying $5 to use GD auctions.

I agree, there are a ton of issues with GD, which is why I don't use them, other than for Auctions. The value GD is providing is marketing and exposure.

A buyer does not need an auctions membership to buy an auctions domain with a BIN price.

If you have XXXX.com domain listed at GD Auctions and a person who has never been to GD before with no GD account types in XXXX.com on the homepage, searching for that domain, they will be given an option to buy the domain name. No Auctions account needed.

Name Trader · Dec 12, 2018

You can get the GoDaddy listing by listing on Afternic instead.

Atta · Dec 12, 2018

dncafe said:
The problem with a lot of these listing pages or selling platforms, they don't offer your domain name much exposure. Sure, you might sell a domain name through them, but the buyer most likely did not find the domain name through that platform service. They found it by typing in your domain name.

So why pay a landing page a % of your money when they didn't help market your domain name?

For end user domain names, let's say NewYorkRoofing.com, a roofing company who might want to buy this name probably knows nothing about domain names. So if they type in the domain and land on a page at a service like Efty, they don't know anything about Efty, it's a service they have never heard of. So Efty is not offering you much credibility in terms of selling the domain, so why not put up your own sales page and keep 100% of the profit?

Who is the most well know domain registrar in the country, the company running Super Bowl ads and large marketing campaigns? GoDaddy. Where are many Americans going to go when they want to find a domain? GoDaddy.

Listing your domain for sale on GoDaddy Auction will give your domain more exposure to end buyers than any other listing service. First thing many people do when wanting to register a domain name is go to GoDaddy and type it in. If it's listed there, your domain will pop up with a option to buy it.

You can put your own landing page up on NewYorkRoofing.com with a Buy Now or Make Offer, as well as list it on GoDaddy Auctions. If a potential buyer doesn't feel comfortable paying you directly, you can link them to the GoDaddy Auction, a company they are comfortable with. If you don't want to put up a sales page you can do a free URL forward through the domain registrar to your GoDaddy Auction.

I don't like GoDaddy and do not use them as my main registrar, but without a doubt, they are the most popular and well known domain company, and that can be a big advantage when selling your domain.

Interesting. What if hosted-service provides tools for marketing? Something like a marketplace where all the domains are listed?

Bertrell · Dec 12, 2018

Atta said:
Something like a marketplace where all the domains are listed?

Isn't this what a number of places offer already? NameSilo, Epik and Uniregistry come to mind.

Atta · Dec 12, 2018

Bertrell said:
Isn't this what a number of places offer already? NameSilo, Epik and Uniregistry come to mind.

Yes. But they do charge a commission on sales.

dncafe · Dec 12, 2018

Atta said:
Interesting. What if hosted-service provides tools for marketing? Something like a marketplace where all the domains are listed?

I am thinking of where an end user would be. End users typically don't know much about domain names, so they're not going to be familiar with smaller marketplaces. So even if there was a domain name landing page service that also offered a marketplace, I don't think it would help promote or market the domain much.

That's why I was saying there is value in GoDaddy. Because many Americans, people who know nothing about domain names, will know of GoDaddy because of their brand recognition, so that will be the first place many will go to when they are thinking about buying a domain name. Once they are there, if they search for a domain name and it happens to be yours listed on Auctions, it will pop up and give them the option to buy. Because of GD brand recognition, people are then more comfortable and feel safe making a payment on their website for the domain.

ThatNameGuy · Dec 12, 2018

dncafe said:
I am thinking of where an end user would be. End users typically don't know much about domain names, so they're not going to be familiar with smaller marketplaces. So even if there was a domain name landing page service that also offered a marketplace, I don't think it would help promote or market the domain much.

That's why I was saying there is value in GoDaddy. Because many Americans, people who know nothing about domain names, will know of GoDaddy because of their brand recognition, so that will be the first place many will go to when they are thinking about buying a domain name. Once they are there, if they search for a domain name and it happens to be yours listed on Auctions, it will pop up and give them the option to buy. Because of GD brand recognition, people are then more comfortable and feel safe making a payment on their website for the domain.

Pete...got your name from your profile.....you're exactly right about using GoDaddy as your vendor of choice. When I finally get my act together my domains will be listed both on my self-hosted site, and on Go Daddy's for the same amounts. There's a lot more credibility in a Godaddy appraisal and keyword valuation than I would ever have, and "if" the buyer/end user feels more comfortable making the purchase through GoDaddy, the 15% commission I might have to pay GD is a bargain. Like I've been saying all along,NO ONE besides so called domainers have ever heard of Flippa, Undeveloped, Sedo, Uniregistry/Uni...lol, or any of the other wacky names where a domain might be listed.

Interesting Pete..when I key dncafe(.)com it brings me to a strange looking page where "if" i were to click on, "The domain dncafe.com may be for sale by it;s owner", it takes me to Sedo where "if" I were an "end user" I would never buy the domain from them. However, "if" it took me to GoDaddy there's at least a chance I might buy it, or at least make an offer. That's all for now,

Bulloney aka ThatNameGuy™

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