advice Who do you contact?- Outbound sales

uglydork · Dec 5, 2018

I have been selling my decent names almost exclusivity using outbound for a couple of years. maybe I am doing it wrong but sometimes it takes forever to get to the decision maker. I usually target the Marketing Directors and Managers. I am dealing with a HUGE medical device manufacturer now and after 2 months I am still not getting to the right person.

Who do you target and why?

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

medomain said:
The market has been very slow for me. Pls PM me the ad strategy. Thank you

i already mentioned that i do paid ads you need to create ad account and understand all the option if you are confuse anywhere in process of ads just shoot me pm

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

Surender Singh said:
Sorry!!. new to linkedin & was unaware that there is something like account upgradation. Now got it...Thank you!!

Upgrading and paid ads are totally different..
sales navigator is good for b2b marketing not for domain sales.

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

xeroox said:
Can you also send to me Thanks

will do once i am free

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

Scotty205 said:
I use Hunter.io, do a Google search for domain name plus CEO email address. I also use LinkedIn to find the CEO. Once I find who the CEO is then I can sent the email to them or preferably the marketing manager/director. I used to not try to take so much time trying to find the decision maker but I found out that was a bad idea and it hurt my sales. Now, some GEO domains I market arent big enough to have CEO's so I just try to find the owner. I would be interested to know your strategy in pm @Riz M.

actually finding email is headache now a days plus too many spam filters are working so we are limited on that option so i do paid ads and target endusers like whenever they wll login to linkedin they will see our ad on top
suppose if i am selling healthanalysis.com then i have targetted all health institutes and hospitals owners who have atleadt 500+ employees so whenever they will come to linkedin they see my ad on top saying 20 years old domain HealthAnalysis.com for sale Price 7999 USD
now why i mentioned here price because if i dont show then some users click just to know price and we have to pay for that click if they see price name and age everything on ad they usually dont click but they keep seeing the ad ..and domain name installed in brain of owners and now suppose if some health company owner dont want any domain like this but maybe his friend is interested to find he can tell them so this is what is marketing in my point of view...

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

Scotty205 said:
I use Hunter.io, do a Google search for domain name plus CEO email address. I also use LinkedIn to find the CEO. Once I find who the CEO is then I can sent the email to them or preferably the marketing manager/director. I used to not try to take so much time trying to find the decision maker but I found out that was a bad idea and it hurt my sales. Now, some GEO domains I market arent big enough to have CEO's so I just try to find the owner. I would be interested to know your strategy in pm @Riz M.

but dont do that straight without reading alot about this else you can lose alot of money for junk clicks..like this happened to me when i targetted broad audience for brightserver.com bunch of users clicked on ad wthout any reason as my targetting was not only owner who have 500+ employees and then i saw stats all clicks came from owners who has 1 or 5 employees so then i started filter and target only big company owners as they dnt click if they are not interested

NickB · Dec 7, 2018

Finding emails is easy as pie! I have been using the below in my various sales in other sectors - it gives you email and direct contact numbers (I have no affiliation with them) If your willing to put your hand in your pocket

Lusha.co

Trent1000 · Dec 7, 2018

Riz M. said:
but dont do that straight without reading alot about this else you can lose alot of money for junk clicks..like this happened to me when i targetted broad audience for brightserver.com bunch of users clicked on ad wthout any reason as my targetting was not only owner who have 500+ employees and then i saw stats all clicks came from owners who has 1 or 5 employees so then i started filter and target only big company owners as they dnt click if they are not interested

Is it the so called "sponsored inmail"?

uglydork · Dec 7, 2018

MrAcidic said:
Finding emails is easy as pie! I have been using the below in my various sales in other sectors - it gives you email and direct contact numbers (I have no affiliation with them) If your willing to put your hand in your pocket

Lusha.co

Clearbit does this for free

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

Trent1000 said:
Is it the so called "sponsored inmail"?

Sponsored inmail is not suitable...bcz linkedin charge each inmail either customer open it or not i wasted money in inmail better then sponsored inmail we should email targetted customers manually as its free atleast..i said text ad is workable bcz sending thousands of emails are impossible now so better present your domain in linked top of the scree so every compay owner see it

NickB · Dec 7, 2018

uglydork said:
Clearbit does this for free

Looks similar in that you get a little sample (teaser) free before you have to pay?

ecomslice · Dec 7, 2018

Before I say this, I will clarify I am new to domaining this year, and Riz is obviously very experienced and extremely kind to be so helpful. But two small notes so all have a varied concept of what has been done by myself and others on LinkedIn is we have built between 10000 and 30000 connections on profiles of all people we dont know and never had any issues. This and when a pop up for email before connection happens you only have to enter your email. I assume as that person collects emails. It's a networking site and adding like an insane mad man and not even messaging those people in my opinion will not do any harm and just try to keep to UK and north America for .com and the sectors your into with domains. This will than broaden your 1st 2nd & 3rd connections huge and on top of Riz's awesome ad strategy which I am going to use now. THANK YOU RIZ , you will also have a broad network of tens of thousands for free advertising via posts and your profile banner. Good luck all.

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

ecomslice said:
Before I say this, I will clarify I am new to domaining this year, and Riz is obviously very experienced and extremely kind to be so helpful. But two small notes so all have a varied concept of what has been done by myself and others on LinkedIn is we have built between 10000 and 30000 connections on profiles of all people we dont know and never had any issues. This and when a pop up for email before connection happens you only have to enter your email. I assume as that person collects emails. It's a networking site and adding like an insane mad man and not even messaging those people in my opinion will not do any harm and just try to keep to UK and north America for .com and the sectors your into with domains. This will than broaden your 1st 2nd & 3rd connections huge and on top of Riz's awesome ad strategy which I am going to use now. THANK YOU RIZ , you will also have a broad network of tens of thousands for free advertising via posts and your profile banner. Good luck all.

When you see popup to enter email address it means you need to enter that person email whom you are adding into your list now note one thing if you will enter any email there you will see that your request is sent its a definetely bug of linkedin but then check that person will never accept ur invitation bcz he never received it.
Okay for more confirmation do one thing add one person whon u know but not in ur list and enter ur email address instead of his email address and then ask him either he rcvd that invitation or not..i m 100 percent sure he will not rcvd invitation
Trust me i m using linkedin since 6 years and i know if linkedin started asking email for everytime you adding person means u r in restriction zone and when you give any random email that will show request is sent but in actual its not try it and let me know

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

ecomslice said:
Before I say this, I will clarify I am new to domaining this year, and Riz is obviously very experienced and extremely kind to be so helpful. But two small notes so all have a varied concept of what has been done by myself and others on LinkedIn is we have built between 10000 and 30000 connections on profiles of all people we dont know and never had any issues. This and when a pop up for email before connection happens you only have to enter your email. I assume as that person collects emails. It's a networking site and adding like an insane mad man and not even messaging those people in my opinion will not do any harm and just try to keep to UK and north America for .com and the sectors your into with domains. This will than broaden your 1st 2nd & 3rd connections huge and on top of Riz's awesome ad strategy which I am going to use now. THANK YOU RIZ , you will also have a broad network of tens of thousands for free advertising via posts and your profile banner. Good luck all.

I m not sure but as per my experience u r using linked helper which is really fast way to get restricted we need to use that strategically not like spamming else acct get restricted and then u will be addinh connections and happy but in actual your invitations will be not going through u just try once you will understand what i m trying to explain... restriction of linkedin acct is big loss

ThatNameGuy · Dec 7, 2018

Riz M. said:
If you have tried to add linkedin alot of contacts without knowing them then the person you are adding they can report you and linkedin take it very seriously and they restrict you to add them and then u must have email of the person to add them in your linkedin list.if you dont have email of that person you cant add so most prolly you are already in restricted zone and linkedin never remove this limitation as soon they caught you are adding contacts without knowing them.
if you are not in restricted zone then just add slowww ... like find extreme targetted enduser and send them request and mention in message the purpose of adding but still have high chances of report so i dont add anyone in my linkedin as its risky ..
i do marketing through paid ads so no restrictions on paid ads

Riz M... back posting again on NamePros after being in the penalty box for about 45 days. Using Linkedin, and a special message feature I pay $59 a month for, I've made hundreds of valuable contacts that I intend to use in the future. Be sure to scrutinize all Linkedin bio's like you're hiring the targeted person for a job. If you're like me, you'll find you have something in common with almost everyone and you can customize your message. Take a look at my Linkedin bio here on Namepros and you'll see what I mean. I've no doubt that brokers like Sedo, Flippa, Afternic, Undeveloped etc. use some of the very same techniques being discussed here, and I'll be looking to hire some of their sales/marketing people in the future.

The only other thing I'll share is not to say too much. Less is really better, but try to say just enough to get their attention. Good luck!

Bulloney aka ThatNameGuy™

ecomslice · Dec 7, 2018

Riz M. said:
I m not sure but as per my experience u r using linked helper which is really fast way to get restricted we need to use that strategically not like spamming else acct get restricted and then u will be addinh connections and happy but in actual your invitations will be not going through u just try once you will understand what i m trying to explain... restriction of linkedin acct is big loss

ok thank you for the clarification, I rarely get a email request, I will do the test, and I am confident you are right with your experience, mine is limited for sure. your super helpful, I actually did not use a linkedin helper though, I will tell you so you can have a laugh but I have couple girlfriends, and were building 3 profiles in 3 broad sectors literally hitting the buttons individually via phone app, I found a way to hit about 100-200 per minute, and due to a duplicate annoyance, i figure it gets 20-30% added connections. lots of hours, the guy with 25,000 received multiple xxxx sales via linkedin., I dont doubt your method may be the best way, but just wanted anyone new to know what else is being done to give them a open mind.

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

ecomslice said:
ok thank you for the clarification, I rarely get a email request, I will do the test, and I am confident you are right with your experience, mine is limited for sure. your super helpful, I actually did not use a linkedin helper though, I will tell you so you can have a laugh but I have couple girlfriends, and were building 3 profiles in 3 broad sectors literally hitting the buttons individually via phone app, I found a way to hit about 100-200 per minute, and due to a duplicate annoyance, i figure it gets 20-30% added connections. lots of hours, the guy with 25,000 received multiple xxxx sales via linkedin., I dont doubt your method may be the best way, but just wanted anyone new to know what else is being done to give them a open mind.

the way you have done ...i have done it through linkedhelper but my id then went restricted and started asking email on every new add contact and then i did same like you providing random emails but then what happened i notice no body is accepting my request then i tried it on myself and came to know that now invitations are not going through then i emailed apologize to linkedin and they rejected and from that id was spending on paid ads monthly 2000-3000 usd for my himalayan salt business still they didnt accepted my apologize then i made new id and then i never did mass contact adding
so i am running now only linkedin ads , twitter paid ads, using famous pinterest boards with beautiful pins.

Lord Antares · Dec 7, 2018

Riz M. said:
but dont do that straight without reading alot about this else you can lose alot of money for junk clicks..like this happened to me when i targetted broad audience for brightserver.com bunch of users clicked on ad wthout any reason as my targetting was not only owner who have 500+ employees and then i saw stats all clicks came from owners who has 1 or 5 employees so then i started filter and target only big company owners as they dnt click if they are not interested

I would never have thought that big businesses would be the ones to target? Are they really that ready to rebrand?
Would you target small businesses for cheaper domains?

Also, what is your cpc/cpm on linkedin? How cost effective is it?

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

Lord Antares said:
I would never have thought that big businesses would be the ones to target? Are they really that ready to rebrand?
Would you target small businesses for cheaper domains?

Also, what is your cpc/cpm on linkedin? How cost effective is it?

bottomline in any business is shoutout .... if they are ready to rebrand or not atleast they are seeing your domain if anyone would have interest they will come alot of big companies have bad names and when they feel the name they are seeing is great then they do plan to switch over how teamwork.com sold read story

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

Bulloney said:
Riz M... back posting again on NamePros after being in the penalty box for about 45 days. Using Linkedin, and a special message feature I pay $59 a month for, I've made hundreds of valuable contacts that I intend to use in the future. Be sure to scrutinize all Linkedin bio's like you're hiring the targeted person for a job. If you're like me, you'll find you have something in common with almost everyone and you can customize your message. Take a look at my Linkedin bio here on Namepros and you'll see what I mean. I've no doubt that brokers like Sedo, Flippa, Afternic, Undeveloped etc. use some of the very same techniques being discussed here, and I'll be looking to hire some of their sales/marketing people in the future.

The only other thing I'll share is not to say too much. Less is really better, but try to say just enough to get their attention. Good luck!

Bulloney aka ThatNameGuy™

i am not sure but yes mayb afternic sedo or flippa brokers using this skill to get sales ...
but i love to share what i know ...maybe some points i mentioned are wrong and its also possible that some guys will try and loss the money because of wrong strategy!!

Lord Antares · Dec 7, 2018

Riz M. said:
bottomline in any business is shoutout .... if they are ready to rebrand or not atleast they are seeing your domain if anyone would have interest they will come alot of big companies have bad names and when they feel the name they are seeing is great then they do plan to switch over how teamwork.com sold read story

How much did you spend on ads before getting sales for those two domains?

What was the total ROI?

deez007 · Dec 7, 2018

Riz M. said:
Will do it

Hey Riz

Would love to get some input on this as well, would be highly appreciated.

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

Lord Antares said:
How much did you spend on ads before getting sales for those two domains?

What was the total ROI?

Its very difficult to figure out that i sold two or 3 or 4 as i had total 8 sales since two months so for two i m sure as i asked buyer rest came through marketplaces so i have no idea either they saw ad on linkedin or twitter or pinterest...
I m not liable to give any kind of proof here i m just sharing that shout out is very important in any business...if you want to do ....if not then its okay i didnt forced or forcing anyone to do it...
If you think this is not good method then i also suggested automation tools to do marketing free but that can bring your id in restrictions
I hope thats the answer of ur questions.
Thanks

Lord Antares · Dec 7, 2018

Riz M. said:
Its very difficult to figure out that i sold two or 3 or 4 as i had total 8 sales since two months so for two i m sure as i asked buyer rest came through marketplaces so i have no idea either they saw ad on linkedin or twitter or pinterest...
I m not liable to give any kind of proof here i m just sharing that shout out is very important in any business...if you want to do ....if not then its okay i didnt forced or forcing anyone to do it...
If you think this is not good method then i also suggested automation tools to do marketing free but that can bring your id in restrictions
I hope thats the answer of ur questions.
Thanks

No, I think it's a great method, that's why I'm asking. I wish to know how much you spent, on average, to get how much. It would give me an idea to see how profitable this is.

I also wish to know how much you paid for those names. I'm asking because you seem to know what you are doing.

I'm experimenting with ads on a different platform, we will see how that goes.

EmpireNames.com · Dec 7, 2018

Lord Antares said:
No, I think it's a great method, that's why I'm asking. I wish to know how much you spent, on average, to get how much. It would give me an idea to see how profitable this is.

I also wish to know how much you paid for those names. I'm asking because you seem to know what you are doing.

I'm experimenting with ads on a different platform, we will see how that goes.

88 domains marketing 522 usd spent in total 18 million impressions with approx 300 clicks
What is good here???in 500 usd i marketed my domains to all ceos founders endusers and 18 million times my domains saw by them
Thats what i call marketing

Lord Antares · Dec 7, 2018

Riz M. said:
88 domains marketing 522 usd spent in total 18 million impressions with approx 300 clicks
What is good here???in 500 usd i marketed my domains to all ceos founders endusers and 18 million times my domains saw by them
Thats what i call marketing

Holy shit, how is it that cheap??? Your CPM is very low. I'm doing it wrong then. I'm doing some custom, good targeting but it's much more expensive.

And 8 sales in 2 months is great if they were $xxxx. You really know your stuff.

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