The USA Political Thread

mr-x said:

2) Europeans Realizing Trump Was Right About Iran
https://www.dailywire.com/news/39123/embarrassing-europeans-realizing-trump-was-right-hank-berrien

#maga

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#MEUGA.... lol. The EU leadership is ignorant and simply out of touch. I see Nigel Farage quit the other day, thats too bad really. Saw Greece was burning today some spectacle.

JB Lions said:

Proving my point. You can't link to anything on their site or you would have by now. There is nothing for GoDaddy to take action on.

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https://web.archive.org/web/2015010...it-revolutionary-violence-and-a-love-on-fire/

In this essay, I explore the relationship between Christian love and revolutionary violence in the context of racialized terror and a liberating God. I ground my theopolitics amid Michael Brown’s execution, the militarization of police, the relative silence of the Church, and the righteous anger of Black America. I turn to James Cone’s seminal work Black Theology and Black Power as a theo-political tool useful in our struggle to cast out the demon of white racial supremacy. Here Cone helps us think about not only the relationship between love and violence but also the connections between race/ism, Christian religion, and revolutionary struggle. Ultimately I argue that under conditions of white supremacist terror, revolutionary violence can be an expression of Christian love.

To say Christian love can embody revolutionary violence is controversial. But so is saying God is “One in three persons”! Just because something is controversial doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take it seriously or even embrace it. The idea of the Trinity is controversial to many as is revolutionary violence. Interestingly, however, most Christians are silent about State violence on black bodies, and yet condemn the very idea of those same bodies engaging in counter, revolutionary violence. All the while, they ebulliently declare the trinity of God while decrying the idea that liberative theology might require revolutionary acts of violent resistance. As Cone points out:

It is interesting that so many who advocate for nonviolence as the only possible Christian response of black people to white domination are also the most ardent defenders of the right of the police to put down black rebellion through violence.6

If Ocasio Cortez ran and won, I would be seeking asylum in Canada or the UK. That is a nightmarish scenario to me.

They made sure to tell us "it was from the South"

CNN's New York offices given all-clear after bomb threat
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/us/cnn-new-york-bomb-threat-evacuation/index.html

Nah, just passive loving people. Archive has plenty of hate.
THEY DELETED THE HATE SPEECH. Still domestic terrorism, still haters, still violent.

on archive, but not on website---> page not found http://blacklivesmatter.com:80/ferguson-on-fire/

1) The State of Missouri is willing to let Ferguson burn to the ground to protect the killer of Michael Brown, Jr.

2) The majority of the people lining the streets of Ferguson are peaceful protestors.

3) The agitation is not coming simply from a handful of ‘anarchists,’ reckless locals and out-of-towners who would rather wild out than stage a sit-in. There is also reason to speculate that government plants may be inciting some of the chaos. This is not a new phenomenon.

4) The police are the ones provoking MUCH OF the violence,

-The presence of armed police pointing guns at unarmed people with their hands up is an act of terrorism.

-The militarization of local police forces in response to community concerns over police violence is abusive.

-A state-enforced curfew against people who are using their Constitutionally protected right to assemble against over-policing is warfare.

-The inability to arrest Darren Wilson is maddening.

5) What is happening in Ferguson can happen anywhere. With a Black person being killed under similar circumstances every 28 hours, it is a wonder that this explosion of rage isn’t seen more often. That we don’t revisit Los Angeles ’92 once, twice a year.

8) Forget manners and being polite, but do not forget the important of having an agenda. Those who can channel rage into organization and strategy must help those who struggle to do so.

How much more do you need to see? How much more do you need to know? How long can it be expected that Black people exist in this country with the boot of White supremacy firmly on our necks? We’ve gotten comfortable with images of violence and malaise from Iraq and Palestine. Are we willing to accept war torn Ferguson as the new normal? Will we rename it “Fergustan” and get a few rappers to name check it in a song?

offthehandle said:

on archive, but not on website--->

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So nothing to take action on.

JB Lions said:

So nothing to take action on.

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They are hosting and registering the name of a hate group. BLM deleted or hid the content that I suppose only is found on long tail searches. Enough, we disagree. But there is proof enough.

Please. Gab was booted and supposedly it had some issues, I never have looked at the website or cared to. Nor do I use twitter, facebook, etc.

offthehandle said:

They are hosting and registering the name of a hate group. They deleted or hid the content that suppose only is found on long tail searches.

Please. Gab was booted and supposedly it had some issues, I never have looked at the website or cared to. Nor do I use twitter, facebook, etc.

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Then do some long tail searches and link to it. GoDaddy isn't going to take action if nothing is there now. If you find something, contact them.

I took a look at Gab, it probably won't exist this time next year. You never looked at the website or cared to but you were defending it in the other thread. Do you normally defend stuff you have no clue of?

JB Lions said:

You never looked at the website or cared to but you were defending it in the other thread.

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Yes I did participate in the Gab discussion. Why? Free speech is Free speech. I don't have the right to not be offended, neither do you. I don't look for or seek out or want to read hate speech just like I don't go to websites that you think I do, those nut cases. Alex Jones might be a nut, but he has a right to be a nut and he has a audience that might be nuts- just like anybody else. It's free speech.

Show me where Alex Jones incited people to riot like I posted above and I will shut up, I am not a follower of his nor ever recall him doing such a thing. Show me where he rallied people to incite violence or hate. I will shut up.

AJ can believe and tell people that Sandy Hook was a conspiracy, just like people believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or UFO invasions or some higher spirit or God. All over there are "Conspiracy videos" about the twin towers- they all are able to express themselves with free speech. You and I might agree or disagree with the idea, but ideas are simply ideas and opinions. Period. You should defend Free Speech, you daily bash and slam the duly elected President of the USA here on this great forum, that's your Free Speech right.

For Tim Cook, to be the arbiter of Free Speech and the new censor and dictator of what is correct- is disgusting. Same with Google, Facebook, etc. BLM are haters as much as the White Supremacist assholes are- they are equally as bad to incite peoples emotions into doing stupid things. Vulgar lyrics that are Anti-White as @GILSAN posted are allowed, yet somehow the N word is totally acceptable to be spoken among Blacks within their own groups, but a death sentence if a White person uses the same word.

But somehow in this crazy world offensive things are all going to being censored. Google building a censor search engine and test it in China before they implement it in the USA.

offthehandle said:

Yes I did participate in the Gab discussion. Why? Free speech is Free speech. I don't have the right to not be offended, neither do you. I don't look for or seek out or want to read hate speech just like I don't go to websites that you think I do, those nut cases. Alex Jones might be a nut, but he has a right to be a nut and he has a audience that might be nuts- just like anybody else. It's free speech.

Show me where Alex Jones incited people to riot like I posted above and I will shut up, I am not a follower of his nor ever recall him doing such a thing. Show me where he rallied people to incite violence or hate. I will shut up.

AJ can believe and tell people that Sandy Hook was a conspiracy, just like people believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or UFO invasions or some higher spirit or God. All over there are "Conspiracy videos" about the twin towers- they all are able to express themselves with free speech. You and I might agree or disagree with the idea, but ideas are simply ideas and opinions. Period. You should defend Free Speech, you daily bash and slam the duly elected President of the USA here on this great forum, that's your Free Speech right.

For Tim Cook, to be the arbiter of Free Speech and the new censor and dictator of what is correct- is disgusting. Same with Google, Facebook, etc. BLM are haters as much as the White Supremacist assholes are- they are equally as bad to incite peoples emotions into doing stupid things. Vulgar lyrics that are Anti-White as @GILSAN posted are allowed, yet somehow the N word is totally acceptable to be spoken among Blacks within their own groups, but a death sentence if a White person uses the same word.

But somehow in this crazy world offensive things are all going to being censored. Google building a censor search engine and test it in China before they implement it in the USA.

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You wrote all that for nothing if you didn't actually see what was on the site. So your opinion doesn't really matter in this case.

JB Lions said:

You wrote all that for nothing if you didn't actually see what was on the site. So your opinion doesn't really matter.

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You respond and don't actually read.
But your opinion does matter. Yep #1.
Buenas Nachos.

offthehandle said:

You respond and don't actually read.
But your opinion does matter. Yep #1.
Buenas Nachos.

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I did read, it's your typical going all over the place. Where we could be talking about 1 thing, then you go off on one of your little tangents. They have been deleting stuff now, to the point some regulars are complaining. Deleting followers etc. They were allowing stuff then, that they don't allow now. Supposedly the same rules. GoDaddy got it right. That's my opinion and you don't have to agree with it, but I actually looked. You did not.

I thought it was funny how they complain about Twitter, but they were importing content from them to fill out some sections, like the Sports section. Literally importing tweets from Twitter. It's not for normal people, the crowd that normally hung out there is getting moderated heavily, they know people are watching etc. So, I can't imagine it succeeding.

6 years LOL

Assange rejects deal between UK, Ecuador for him to leave embassy

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersec...l-between-uk-ecuador-for-him-to-leave-embassy

johname said:

6 years LOL

Assange rejects deal between UK, Ecuador for him to leave embassy

https://thehill.com/policy/cybersec...l-between-uk-ecuador-for-him-to-leave-embassy

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Haven't kept up on this. Does the guy pay rent? Do chores? Does he have birthday parties? I want to see an inside look on his day to day life. He'll probably end up getting poisoned. It's a nice looking place:

mr-x said:

Unless you're a liberal at NY Times, MSN or Politico, tax revenues were way up this year.

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Interesting take on the issue of these increased tax revenues.
https://www.politifact.com/texas/st...uz-said-gop-tax-cut-led-higher-revenues-did-/

TestCase said:

Interesting take on the issue of these increased tax revenues.
https://www.politifact.com/texas/st...uz-said-gop-tax-cut-led-higher-revenues-did-/

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"Cruz said that with the Republican-backed tax cut, "we’re seeing the result, and to date, federal tax revenues have gone up."

They have gone up by less than half of 1 percent in nominal dollars, one of the weakest increases since the end of World War II. They have actually fallen if you factor in inflation, growth in the economy, or prior projections for tax collections."

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The Tax Bill Did Not Cause Revenue to Rise

http://www.crfb.org/blogs/tax-bill-did-not-cause-revenue-rise

.X. said:

If Ocasio Cortez ran and won, I would be seeking asylum in Canada or the UK. That is a nightmarish scenario to me.

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She cant run - too young. Need to be 35, she’s 29.

Doesn’t mean she won’t run in the future, but a lot can happen between now and then.

She’s young, naive, inexperienced, she has opinions and she’s going in with guns ablaze. A couple of years serving in Congress may give her a big and much-needed dose of reality.

Nominal dollars. This is gaslighting. In any case, it won't matter because DC won't cut spending. The economy is growing. We've put a small dent in China's illegal dumping and theft.

Cut congress pay by 50% and make them sleep in dorms.

TestCase said:

Interesting take on the issue of these increased tax revenues.
https://www.politifact.com/texas/st...uz-said-gop-tax-cut-led-higher-revenues-did-/

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"without regard to the size of the overall economy"; another false but true from the lying partisans at politico. Which was the point of my original post.

The only speech that is not protected are actual threats of violence and slander.

You can be a lying SOB, peddle horrible conspiracies until you break the law. FB, Twitter, Google, Apple don't have the right to censor people because they are not "publishers".

They claim to be a platform for speech and are given protection under the law. A federal or class action lawsuit will be needed to make them change. Unless congress acts to give them more protection.

Lambs like Johnny don't worry about losing the #1A because they're part of the mob.

offthehandle said:

Yes I did participate in the Gab discussion. Why? Free speech is Free speech. I don't have the right to not be offended, neither do you. I don't look for or seek out or want to read hate speech just like I don't go to websites that you think I do, those nut cases. Alex Jones might be a nut, but he has a right to be a nut and he has a audience that might be nuts- just like anybody else. It's free speech.

Show me where Alex Jones incited people to riot like I posted above and I will shut up, I am not a follower of his nor ever recall him doing such a thing. Show me where he rallied people to incite violence or hate. I will shut up.

AJ can believe and tell people that Sandy Hook was a conspiracy, just like people believe in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or UFO invasions or some higher spirit or God. All over there are "Conspiracy videos" about the twin towers- they all are able to express themselves with free speech. You and I might agree or disagree with the idea, but ideas are simply ideas and opinions. Period. You should defend Free Speech, you daily bash and slam the duly elected President of the USA here on this great forum, that's your Free Speech right.

For Tim Cook, to be the arbiter of Free Speech and the new censor and dictator of what is correct- is disgusting. Same with Google, Facebook, etc. BLM are haters as much as the White Supremacist assholes are- they are equally as bad to incite peoples emotions into doing stupid things. Vulgar lyrics that are Anti-White as @GILSAN posted are allowed, yet somehow the N word is totally acceptable to be spoken among Blacks within their own groups, but a death sentence if a White person uses the same word.

But somehow in this crazy world offensive things are all going to being censored. Google building a censor search engine and test it in China before they implement it in the USA.

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enlytend said:

She cant run - too young. Need to be 35, she’s 29.

Doesn’t mean she won’t run in the future, but a lot can happen between now and then.

She’s young, naive, inexperienced, she has opinions and she’s going in with guns ablaze. A couple of years serving in Congress may give her a big and much-needed dose of reality.

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She could take a civics course and learn how Gov works.

JB Lions said:

Haven't kept up on this. Does the guy pay rent? Do chores? Does he have birthday parties? I want to see an inside look on his day to day life. He'll probably end up getting poisoned. It's a nice looking place:

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He claims they’re forcing him out because they want him to pay for his own phone calls and medical bills and clean up after his cat. So I’m guessing chores are a “no.”

It does look nice but 6 years anywhere without being able to leave? Might as well just do the jail time and get it over with.

Virginia high school teacher fired for refusing to use transgender student's new pronouns.

He said "she" once by accident. He was fired b/c he wouldn't use any male / female pronouns. No room for dissent or accommodation of religion.

https://www.richmond.com/news/virgi...cle_65be1826-50b2-5d38-be58-47d9b9480917.html

Trump's New Jersey golf club employs undocumented immigrants, women say

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/i...employs-undocumented-immigrants-women-n945056

Judge order DOJ / FBI reopen Hillary Clinton email investigation.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...-justice-state-department-20181206-story.html

How does that work after DOJ/FBI gave her immunity, interviewed her in private and failed to record the interview. Can they rescind immunity or does she she invoke the first immunity contract.

johname said:

Trump's New Jersey golf club employs undocumented immigrants, women say

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/i...employs-undocumented-immigrants-women-n945056

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Nobody should be surprised. He hired undocumented Polish workers on his building projects in the 80's, paid them dirt. Later he had to pay big money in settlements over that.

He has no problem with undocumented labor, as long as it's working for him...