The USA Political Thread

robert widener said:

1 % joe

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Biden would easily beat Trump. He is 75 tho, 76 soon/next month. Will be 78 next election, would be 82 after first term. Trump is just 3 years younger.

Should have ran last election, he would have won. Biden vs. Trump 2016:

Biden +12.6
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/biden_vs._republicans.html

Really, it's just the age. I do have age discrimination when it comes to this, across the board. We have people 10 years older than retirement age, starting one of the most stressful jobs in the world. I want to see a full workup on them. Mental/physical. We just need them to last at least 4 years. Joe needs some video of him pumping weights, running up stairs, etc.

Man who abused 9/11 widow identified and fired from his job
The man that abused the 9/11 widow seen in the video is in fact Steve Wilson, who also goes by the name Salvad Orwell Wilson on Facebook.

The extreme leftist in the video was also seen wearing an AK Press jacket and as you can see, he also likes their Facebook page.

Furthermore, it was confirmed by his place of employment that it was him in the video abusing the widow. On his facebook page he lists his job and workplace as Data Specialist at Self Enhancement, Inc.

Self Enhancement Inc then tweeted out that “Steve Wilson
is no longer an employee of SEI. His behavior does not represent the values of our organization or the high expectations that we have for our employees.”

Self Enhancement Inc@SelfEnhancement
Steve Wilson is no longer an employee of SEI. His behavior does not represent the values of our organization or the high expectations that we have for our employees.
3:50 AM - Oct 21, 2018

DNWon said:

Ugh! Here we go! Yes. yes JB, just because many of us here subscribe to the scientific fact that humans are born either male or female and you don't, that makes us horrible people who hate anybody else who is different from us! You are so magnificently brilliant! A shining star of tolerance! I'm surprised you didn't throw racist in there too?

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"that's racist" No one is telling LGBTQZXZ how to live. We refuse to give up our rights and accept legal penalties for using the wrong pronoun or refusing to let men share a dressing room with women.

Insanity.

Studied political science.

Self Enhancement, Inc. is one of the nation's most comprehensive and successful youth development organizations.

GILSAN said:

Man who abused 9/11 widow identified and fired from his job

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The U.S. Needs Saudi Arabia, and Vice Versa

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...-killing-u-s-and-saudis-still-need-each-other

johname said:

The U.S. Needs Saudi Arabia, and Vice Versa

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...-killing-u-s-and-saudis-still-need-each-other

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I would say that SA needs the US more, now that the US is energy independent.

From the article:

I cannot help but feel that too much of the discussion of Khashoggi is being used to skewer President Donald Trump and his hostility toward the media, rather than being set in a broader understanding of American history with the Saudis. There is too much rage and not enough analysis of why ties with the Saudis have proven so strong.

For better or worse, tolerating the killing of Khashoggi is the kind of foreign policy decision that the U.S. has been making for many decades. Americans are now behaving like Captain Renault in the movie “Casablanca,” shocked to discover that there is gambling in the casino. And they will be shocked again when their protestations do not, in fact, set everything right.

You certainly won't see a picture of Trump like this, bowing to the Saudi King as did Obummer...

GILSAN said:

I would say that SA needs the US more, now that the US is energy independent.

From the article:

I cannot help but feel that too much of the discussion of Khashoggi is being used to skewer President Donald Trump and his hostility toward the media, rather than being set in a broader understanding of American history with the Saudis. There is too much rage and not enough analysis of why ties with the Saudis have proven so strong.

For better or worse, tolerating the killing of Khashoggi is the kind of foreign policy decision that the U.S. has been making for many decades. Americans are now behaving like Captain Renault in the movie “Casablanca,” shocked to discover that there is gambling in the casino. And they will be shocked again when their protestations do not, in fact, set everything right.

You certainly won't see a picture of Trump like this, bowing to the Saudi King as did Obummer...

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robert widener said:

1 % joe

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After finishing in fifth place in the Iowa Caucus on January 3, 2008, garnering only one percent of the total vote, Biden ended his presidential bid.

** Joe Biden has run for President three times. 2008 was his best showing. Still a thousand times better than Sen. Warren.

GILSAN said:

Grateful Hondurans Paint Swastika on US Flag Then Torch It in Support of Illegal Immigrant Caravans

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Lovely ignorance. This is a fine way to promote your reason as a “persecuted” fleeing “refugee” for arriving in a new country. Try doing that entering Germany and their flag and they even would arrest and deport them. It does help in losing support from critical thinking moderates on the left.

I hope they have the balls to close down the border for a month. That would be a wakeup call that is needed. The imported avocados will stay out and the local population may actually realize that allowing this invasion to happen should have been stopped at the soutnern border.

Only way is via airport with a visa.

JB Lions said:

Right now, Biden is leading. He is very old tho, he admits that might be a problem. Or somebody else I mentioned, not on the radar yet, Mitch Landrieu, he's a moderate. Debates will decide it. I do agree Moderate is the way to go.

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The US populace fringes like Antifa on the news doing all these stupid things are only shooting themselves in the foot. I understand the ignorance, but the Democrat leadership is very poor to jump on the “resist” bandwagon versus coming up with moderate, palatable alternatives, with logic, civility and reasoning.

Oh, that's what that 1% was, 2008. You guys don't know what year it is. See poll where he would have beaten Trump last year. He was going against Obama/Hillary in 2008.
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What I posted earlier, Desantis vs. Gillum in Florida. Didn't know Gillum was that far ahead. Remember what I posted earlier about Florida going Blue. This is the first sign. Trump will lose Florida in 2020. Desantis is a Trump boy. They're sending out these texts:

Pres. Trump needs every Republican in Florida to step up and help stop the radical left-wing by voting for Ron DeSantis.

Andrew Gillum is a radical far-left democrat. His campaign is powered by SOCIALISTS Bernie Sanders & Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Gillum wants to abolish ICE, allow sanctuary cities, add BILLIONS in new FL taxes, and defund the police.

He wants to IMPEACH Pres. Trump.

WE MUST STOP GILLUM!

VOTE EARLY, starting tomorrow in many counties. Learn More at RonDeSantis.com/EarlyVoting

Paid by Ron DeSantis, Republican, for governor.

He's basically lying thru that, Floridians know this.

offthehandle said:

The US populace fringes like Antifa on the news doing all these stupid things are only shooting themselves in the foot. I understand the ignorance, but the Democrat leadership is very poor to jump on the “resist” bandwagon versus coming up with moderate, palatable alternatives, with logic, civility and reasoning.

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Most Dems don't support them, I don't, moderate Dems don't. For me it's simple. If they commit crime, arrest them. Protest (peaceful) fine. Property damage, attacking people, arrest them.
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thanks @mr-x I like this one:

By time 2020 gets here, Democrats will be so far left they'll be endorsing Castro and Lennin.

mr-x said:

By time 2020 gets here, Democrats will be so far left they'll be endorsing Castro.

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I know that's your wish, but right now Biden leads the polls. He's a moderate. I think you run moderate in the big election. Dem party runs the range so in areas where more left candidates would do better, run them there. Your post is the typical stuff I posted about earlier. It's really tired, old school, fear mongering type stuff. We'll be like Venezuala kind of thing. I imagine it does work for the brainless on the right, that believes that stuff. The Socialist stuff gets mixed up a lot. I think we, again, would want a more Nordic type of deal. It is higher taxes but you get a benefit, and can still be Capitalist asf.

offthehandle said:

I hope they have the balls to close down the border for a month. That would be a wakeup call that is needed. The imported avocados will stay out and the local population may actually realize that allowing this invasion to happen should have been stopped at the soutnern border.

Only way is via airport with a visa.

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Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!
1:37 PM - Oct 22, 2018

Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Every time you see a Caravan, or people illegally coming, or attempting to come, into our Country illegally, think of and blame the Democrats for not giving us the votes to change our pathetic Immigration Laws! Remember the Midterms! So unfair to those who come in legally.
1:49 PM - Oct 22, 2018

Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them.
1:57 PM - Oct 22, 2018

There is obviously a massive "logistical support" of the "caravan" in terms of handing out food, water and medical assistance etc.

If these people are poor, who is helping them advance to the US border? I can only think of two major donors behind the scenes:
The Democrats and Soros...

The Liberal Media will now rush to fill TV screens nationwide with pictures of sad. tearful children from Central America... and then blame Trump for starving them by cutting off aid.

And when they arrive at the border, the invaders will provoke scuffles and situations for CNN & Co. to go Apesh*t over...

"by hook or by crook" - A democrat.

DNC Chairman Tom Perez: 'The Electoral College is not a creation of the Constitution'
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...college-is-not-a-creation-of-the-constitution

How the DNC Helps Clinton Buy Off Superdelegates
https://observer.com/2016/02/how-the-dnc-helps-clinton-buy-off-superdelegates/





Operation Choke-Point: Obama administration targeting legal businesses it didn't like.
https://freebeacon.com/politics/court-docs-obama-admin-targeting-businesses-ran-top-fdic/


Raw Milk Raid on Amish Farmer Highlights Stupid FDA Tactics
https://reason.com/blog/2011/05/16/raw-milk-raid-on-amish-farmer

GILSAN said:

If these people are poor, who is helping them advance to the US border? I can only think of two major donors behind the scenes:
The Democrats and Soros....

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This is your brain (what's left of it) reading right wing sites all day. A small part of future defeats. Reasonable people getting tired of loons. Another example of one word/phrase, boogeyman type stuff. Just blame Soros for everything. Just say Soros or Pelosi after everything. Who really is your target audience with this type of stuff?

offthehandle said:

The US populace fringes like Antifa on the news doing all these stupid things are only shooting themselves in the foot. I understand the ignorance, but the Democrat leadership is very poor to jump on the “resist” bandwagon versus coming up with moderate, palatable alternatives, with logic, civility and reasoning.

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The times they are a changin...

GILSAN said:

If these people are poor, who is helping them advance to the US border? I can only think of two major donors behind the scenes:
The Democrats and Soros...

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They sure look dressed better than most refugees. Imported chinese low quality backpacks I see though. Also the Tennis shoes might have a Nike Logo, but they are probably counterfeit. I know first hand from seeing them all over down here.

Where are the undercover reporters blending in and infiltrating? I mean the CIA must have local operatives posing along side this group to spy on the entire situation. If not, thats bad. Any funding I suspect is cash and covert and non traceable. Plenty of bushes along the way for servicios publicos.... ha.

haha, just catching up on Trump's tweets, @mr-x asked me to post some. Remember, I just mentioned Venezuela:

Ron @RonDeSantisFL DeSantis had a great debate victory tonight against Andrew Gillum, a mayor who presides over one of the worst run, and most corrupt, cities in Florida. Ron will build on the great job done by Governor Rick Scott. Gillum will make Florida the next Venezuela!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 16h16 hours ago

lol. You guys should be angry the politicians you support treat you guys like idiots.

6:23 comments. Self evident.

JB Lions said:

haha, just catching up on Trump's tweets, @mr-x asked me to post some. Remember, I just mentioned Venezuela:

Ron @RonDeSantisFL DeSantis had a great debate victory tonight against Andrew Gillum, a mayor who presides over one of the worst run, and most corrupt, cities in Florida. Ron will build on the great job done by Governor Rick Scott. Gillum will make Florida the next Venezuela!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 16h16 hours ago

lol. You guys should be angry the politicians you support treat you guys like idiots.

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I cant disagree and I usually do with you.
But the Venezuela comments are off base and way extreme.
Though Florida has a chance at becoming as crazy as California if Florida flips and become a Sanctuary state. I dont believe there are enough wealthy taxpayers in Florida like there are in California to support the nonsense occuring in California. Your tourism based economy there isnt that strong to support all the free stuff like Ocasio and Bernie want.

JB Lions said:

Just blame Soros for everything. Just say Soros or Pelosi after everything. Who really is your target audience with this type of stuff?

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Useful idiots. Cannon fodder.