discuss What Are You? A Domainer or a Domain Originator?

xynames said:

How do you define the word “customer” in that you have yet to sell a single domain?

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NYJimbo said:

Until you post ONE sale with the usual info, you are just hand regging for fun. Nothing different than the guy who comes here with a dozen terrible domains and learns nothing about the business.

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He doesn't need sales. Who needs some pity sales when he can get something much more valuable - the nice high GD appraisal numbers

Bulloney said:

Oh trust me....ALL my domains serve a purpose like IncredibleFlorida(.)com that was a spin from IncredibleIndia.com that's in use and is appraised at GD for $7,264.

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Bulloney said:

A Speculator? A Creator? A Developer? A Investor? A Artist? A Domainer? or none of the aforementioned? I'm about to register a couple of domain names that clarifies exactly who I am, and I'm proud of it. Having hand registered 1,500 domains in the last 12 months I've finally determined I'm a Domain Originator and not a a domainer (which still isn't a word btw). One would have thought that leaders in this industry would have clarified this by now?

Originator defined: a person who creates or initiates something.

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HeHe

I have a new one for you....



I am a PROFITEER

Definition: one who makes an unreasonable profit

The June thread linked above in this thread months ago listed (4) domains you supposedly sold for $2500 each. Whats the development delay? Buyers remorse?

You wrote:
“Ok...this should make you very happy....Bob Schaeffer, realtor bought two domains from me, H2OFrontRealty.com for $2,500 and SexSea.Realty for $2,500. Then Milt Martin, developer and investor bought FirstCarMemories.com for $2,500, and H2ODiet.com for $2,500. For any further information contact me personally. Very simple...there you have it....like it, or ???????????. Cheers!”

Yet as of this moment all still remain unused and parked (3) at Epik and (1) at Godaddy.

The same hoopla thing you appear to do is sorta an beginners version of the technique a few other people do, create blog and twitter announcements, create hype, start the domain musical chairs game or sell to their friends for “price discovery.” If you want to get in their well known club, you should send off your sales documents so they can be published. Maybe add a couple zeros behind those prices on your invoices too next time you sell to your friends. You should list them on the infamous auction platforms too for more publicity.

I guess these customers were really anxious and planning big things for these, and need months of coding and planning for a H20 Diet or a local Realty website... or were they simply speculating?

offthehandle said:

Bob Schaeffer, realtor bought two domains from me, H2OFrontRealty.com for $2,500 and SexSea.Realty for $2,500. Then Milt Martin, developer and investor bought FirstCarMemories.com for $2,500, and H2ODiet.com for $2,500.

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LOL, these are really pathetic domains too. Funny how all were all sold for $2,500 each.

I could understand if they were recent sales and still were unchanged, hell I got two sales that the new buyers hasnt done anything with. But thats a couple weeks, not SIX or SEVEN months.


So Bulloney reg;'d this in March, sold it and yet its still in his possession ?

Still no proof of any sales. Bulloney is full of himself.

CannaTuna
CannaFigs
CannaCasserole

DopeyStuff, DopeyDomains

CannaSpam. How about Can of Spam?

offthehandle said:

You wrote:
“Ok...this should make you very happy....Bob Schaeffer, realtor bought two domains from me, H2OFrontRealty.com for $2,500 and SexSea.Realty for $2,500. Then Milt Martin, developer and investor bought FirstCarMemories.com for $2,500, and H2ODiet.com for $2,500. For any further information contact me personally. Very simple...there you have it....like it, or ???????????. Cheers!”

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I directly asked him before. He did mention he had a couple of friends invest $10,000, those amounts above in the quote equal $10,000. I mean really - SexSea.Realty for $2,500. Does that look like a real sale?

So I think they gave him 10K after he gave his spiel about new gtlds, they believed him, gave him 10K to invest, he gave them those 4 domains and put them at 2.5 k each in return.

And Epik, that's where he said he buys his domains from.

And Domain Originator is a horrible name. Buy and sell domains, domain investor (what was posted already) explains it just fine, makes sense.

Then this from the other thread:

"I'm also looking at business lawyers from around the country, and advertising firms to help me sell domains. And similar to the real estate broker and salesperson split, it would be 30 -40% for the salesperson and 60-70% for me. This might not make sense to you MapleDots, but it makes perfect sense to me."

What? These are 1,500 hand regs, no sales, no inbound inquiries, 1,200 he said he might drop. So somebody out there is going to spend time trying to sell hand regs?

Yes you beat me to the punch. I was going to say that IF there was any activity at all around these four names it wasn’t an arm’s length actual sale - more like some kind of investment or joint venture arrangement. Perhaps Bulloney gave them the domains in exchange for a stake in whatever they planned to do - for a stake that they decided (or maybe Bulloney alone decided ) is valued at 2500 each. And by the looks of it nothing has come of the arrangements so far as far as development.

Unless these four buyers are Eskimos and Bulloney is able to sell ice there’s just no way those domains sold for anywhere near that.

I mean Hey - if Bulloney is able to convince others of the value of these domains more power to him - but these were not arm’s length actual transactions.


So at the end of the day we come back to - that Bulloney hasn’t sold a single domain.

offthehandle said:

CannaTuna
CannaFigs
CannaCasserole

DopeyStuff, DopeyDomains

CannaSpam. How about Can of Spam?

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But you have to understand his reasoning (if that's possible.) As he explained and schooled others, Canna means, wait for it.....'Can Of'. (One can't make these things up. ) What more can be said, he's a 'Domain Originator' who has 'centuries' of naming experience. ""

Bulloney probably got the idea for CannaTuna from the movie NightShift and Michael Keatons character who figured an easy way to make a tunafish sandwich -

"What if you mix the mayonnaise in the can, WITH the tunafish? Or... hold it! Chuck! I got it! Take LIVE tuna fish, and FEED 'em mayonnaise! Oh this is great!"

hawkeye said:

Bulloney probably got the idea for CannaTuna from the movie NightShift and Michael Keatons character who figured an easy way to make a tunafish sandwich -

"What if you mix the mayonnaise in the can, WITH the tunafish? Or... hold it! Chuck! I got it! Take LIVE tuna fish, and FEED 'em mayonnaise! Oh this is great!"

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Wasnt that the same movie where that kid trainee was watching the Flintstones, then stated Barney Rubble was a “good actor”?

Bulloney said:

A Speculator? A Creator? A Developer? A Investor? A Artist? A Domainer? or none of the aforementioned?

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speculator - no

creator/developer - yes, interested in innovative & viral projects, erecting servers

investor - i invest time, dedication and tech knowledge

artist - if you meant the art of domaining, sure, it has potential

domainer / domain originator - of course (not full-time)

WOW!!!! HOLY CRAP....am I drawing a lot of attention or what

Here's an example of DomainOrigination.com at work....Enjoy!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-morris-227a6918/ Any questions????

You'll also find this on my Profile Information page here on NamePros, but I thought I might save the curiosity seekers among you a little time....you're welcome

Bulloney said:

WOW!!!! HOLY CRAP....am I drawing a lot of attention or what

Here's an example of DomainOrigination.com at work....Enjoy!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-morris-227a6918/ Any questions????

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I am never going to be a fan and I have crossed the line when commenting on your threads before, but I will keep this on point.

The attention you are getting is the WRONG kind! (Please don't reply back with any publicity is good publicity)

I would of thought with the experience you have, building a network within the industry and learning from proven successful people would of been a top priority. Instead you have created a reputation for yourself where people are tearing holes out of you and the advice that has been given is dismissed out of hand and disparaged.

All of these threads show on Google and it is not hard to search for, this means your name is being attached to all of this which can't be good.

I mean not everyone agrees with everyone, but the way you deliberately antagonise people is baffling - what are you hoping to achieve?

I have read through this thread and I still can't tell if you have actually sold any names?

MapleDots said:

HeHe

I have a new one for you....

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I am a PROFITEER

Definition: one who makes an unreasonable profit

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Actually I really am a Domain Originator. Here's one I originated an hour ago

ElderToker(.)com

This one's for you Pops!

Hoarders, Scammers and Morons. What do u guys think about title of my new book? I am working on it. I did not want to use squatters. I think its too insulting.

MrAcidic said:

I am never going to be a fan and I have crossed the line when commenting on your threads before, but I will keep this on point.

The attention you are getting is the WRONG kind! (Please don't reply back with any publicity is good publicity)

I would of thought with the experience you have, building a network within the industry and learning from proven successful people would of been a top priority. Instead you have created a reputation for yourself where people are tearing holes out of you and the advice that has been given is dismissed out of hand and disparaged.

All of these threads show on Google and it is not hard to search for, this means your name is being attached to all of this which can't be good.

I mean not everyone agrees with everyone, but the way you deliberately antagonise people is baffling - what are you hoping to achieve?

I have read through this thread and I still can't tell if you have actually sold any names?

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Just to share with you a little more of my "Origination" talent...this one is for you MrAcidic. Originated just 10 minutes ago;

HashConnoisseur(.)com

Most of the domainers I run into around here can't even spell "connoisseur". Is this the way it's spelled in the UK, or is it CONaSEWER

I want that “PRO” under my name @bmugford and @hawkeye , although the odds are, well maybe 0.001% of me ever getting it, I can admire both of yours

@xynames too,

Ok, I will stop dreaming and get back on topic, I think I am a domain procrastinater , that may be why I can’t see the light to getting me a “PRO” under my user name, an old feller needs to reinvent himself so he can work towards getting that PRO, I want it!lol

Bulloney said:

Most of the domainers I run into around here can't even spell "connoisseur".

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Yes Bulloney, this is why its a bad domain, especially for stoners, but you have fun with that.

Why do I get the feeling the old timers around here can't believe I originated the domains; DomainOrigination and DomainOriginator. I'll be licensing my new names tomorrow at both the local and state offices. And just for my critics reading pleasure, you can read about another one of my crappy Originations here; Enjoy! https://www.namepros.com/threads/sh...cannabis-domains.777011/page-527#post-6937614

I'm having so much fun, and I credit it all to you

Bulloney said:

Why do I get the feeling the old timers around here can't believe I originated the domains; DomainOrigination and DomainOriginator. I'll be licensing my new names tomorrow at both the local and state offices.

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Both domains have been registered and dropped before. DomainOriginator has changed hands many times.

http://www.hosterstats.com/historicaldns.php?domain=DomainOriginator.com

You did NOT originate either one. Not sure why you are throwing your money away, but heck, it's your money.

NYJimbo said:

Both domains have been registered and dropped before. DomainOriginator has changed hands many times.

You did NOT originate either one. Not sure why you are throwing your money away, but heck, its your money.

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Now wait, are you suggesting that someone could have regged this domain before our resident naming expert did? Like 15 years ago! That couldn't be possible, because our naming expert has named many businesses before, and as an 'domain originator', no one would have the foresight to think of names on par with his 'years' of naming expertise.

Thanks a MILLION guys/gals....keep bringing it! You're ALL my heroes

Bulloney said:

Thanks for the analysis, but "Domain Originator" isn't a word just like "domainer" really isn't a word. The only ones searching "domainer" are typically domainers themselves. I didn't register DomainOriginator for resale, but rather a name that non domainers might relate to, and better explains to family, friends, peers and "end users" what I do for a living.

While it's no big deal, it does appraise for more at GD than most of the typical domain names. Trust me, there are a lot of them. 99% of the public doesn't know what a "domainer" is regardless of search results. As a business guy I luv a name that explains what it is that I do...ex. "Credit Control Corporation", "Inquisitor Investigations", "Make Something Happen". These are real names of real companies that I started, named, bought, sold or merged.

Finally, no one is looking for me and my domains, but that's not to say that this "Domain Originator" wont be proactively marketing domains to end users.

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New words are created all the time. When they pass certain criteria, they are added to the official English dictionary.

"Domainer" would have a fair chance of being added to the dictionary, imo.

As was mentioned above, many domainers recycle domains from the expired lists. Therefore they are not the "originator" of the domain.

I hand regged about 25 free domains today, that were on the expired list. Originally they were on my expired list, so I know I am not the originator.

There's too much work in this already, I am not sure about also checking am I the "originator" from domaintools.com! Even with GTLDs, you'd have to check u were the originator.

The dot com is free btw.

Maybe a good idea for domainers would be to try and get the word listed in the official dictionary?

domainer111 said:

New words are created all the time. When they pass certain criteria, they are added to the official English dictionary.

"Domainer" would have a fair chance of being added to the dictionary, imo.

As was mentioned above, many domainers recycle domains from the expired lists. Therefore they are not the "originator" of the domain.

I hand regged about 25 free domains today, that were on the expired list. Originally they were on my expired list, so I know I am not the originator.

There's too much work in this already, I am not sure about also checking am I the "originator" from domaintools.com! Even with GTLDs, you'd have to check u were the originator.

The dot com is free btw.

Maybe a good idea for domainers would be to try and get the word listed in the official dictionary?

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Thanks for your thoughtful response Alan (from NP profile). I looked into having a word added to the dictionary at one time, and it really didn't seem to be too difficult. I would think that some industry leaders could make that happen for "domainer"

I see where you own 6,000 names or about 4x as many as I own. I've not picked up a single name of my 1,500 domains via expiration, so without me researching my names even further than I already do, I'm not really concerned about the name's; DomainOrigination and DomainOriginator to identify who I am, and what I do. I actually think it adds credibility that seems to be a pretty important issue in this industry. As a matter of fact, I picked up a couple of "trading as" or DBA certificates today for my new names.

I do however use the USPTO search feature to check to see if any of my names have "possible" trademark issues. A few have, but in each case I've discovered a workaround.

Again, thanks for your input and good luck originating