question Full time domainer with $10k goal /mo

davidc1 said:

You cannot lease as epik with undeveloped. You can request monthly payments, for domain at least $495, not for others.

To use epik for leasing, the domain must be in epik's registrar.

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davidc1 said:

To use epik for leasing, the domain must be in epik's registrar.
any other way for leasing domains at low price ?

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davidc1 said:

Oh I see, You request a $50 setup fee thru paypal then use epik.

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NameBuyer.com said:

You are right, I'll correct the post. I thought they still had some sort of partnership. So in this case I would just suggest an Epik lander. It is simple and has a separate buy / lease button.

...Too much time has passed. I can't update my original post.

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robepik said:

Domain Leasing:

https://www.epik.com/support/knowledgebase/selling-and-leasing-domains-on-epik/

Simple recipe: (1) List domains with make offer and with a parking lander. (2) When you get an offer, evaluate who is making the offer, and then swing for the fences with high asking price. (3) If the asking price is too much for them backpedal to a lease with a future option to buy.

The math is pretty simple. 200 domains with $50 per month lease fees, and there is your $10K of passive income. However, every now and then your lease converts into a purchase and your get a windfall sale which you can then use to either expand your portfolio and take chips off the table.

This is not theoretical. e have folks doing this exact model at Epik now. It is more sustainable than parking. If you happen to have a high traffic portfolio, sure, parking is an option, but most traffic domains are either horrible names or expensive to acquire. Brandable names are usually mispriced and perfect for leasing.

Domain leasing is the future. Now that the gTLD pig in the python has worked through the system, the after-market is where the best domains are being bought and sold. The inventory of development grade domains is finite and the best inventory is being consolidated into stronger and stronger hands.

Feel free to PM me if you need help leasing your first domains.

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Domains Ted said:

Is there any clause in agreement, domain
owner is not responsible for any legal problem arise with website?

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NameBuyer.com said:

+1

I'm one of the folk above. I switched all my domains from parking to a lander with a buy or lease option. Best thing I've ever done.

Like many, in the past I made close to $1,000 per month on ads from parking. When the downturn occurred, it dropped down to $200-$300 per month, and I also had a UDRP issue originating from the parking page ads. So I was ready to get rid of parking and just drop users onto a Buy Now page to focus on sales.

While exploring options, I found Epik's lease option. It's been a few years since I started using Epik and switched to the buy/lease lander page, I'm now at close to $1,500 per month from lease income between Epik.com and Escrow.com.


My advice: you get sales from 3 main sources. Your landing page (fix this first), whois info, and Afternic.

• Create a simple lander or use undeveloped (they even let you list epik.com's lease option as a built in option).
• At minimum, say in your whois that the domain is for sale
• List your domains on Afternic (PREMIUM NETWORK OPTION) - they show up on every major registrar if someone types in your domain. If you are not doing this, you are missing out on ridiculous amounts of income.
• List your domains on Sedo (optional last step - has only resulted in 1-2 sales per year for me)

To get to $10k per month, just reverse the math and do one of the following:

1. Sell 11-12 domains per month at $1,500 a piece (you need 9,000 good domains)
2. Sell 1.7 higher quality domains per month for $10,000 a piece (you need between 2,000-4,000 great domains)
3. Something in between these 2 models

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robepik said:

Right on. You are part of the vanguard. The future of the domain monetization is leasing. Recurring income from digital brand assets that business owners need to run their business, with an occasional windfall when a business owner succeeds and decides that they need to own their brand. Epik is the leader in leasing and now is the time to get serious about Make offer + Leasing. BIN is for lazy people.

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davidc1 said:

i wonder to see undeveloped with a leasing option... when ?

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robepik said:

I candidly don't see how someone can provide a leasing service without being a registrar. There needs to be an agent that sits in between lessor and lessee to govern access and use, and not just sell and collect money. This is more than a transaction. It is about ongoing access control. The lessee should be able to use the domain 24/7 but not change the whois or see the auth code, for example.

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davidc1 said:

epik could be integrated in their solution, after the 1st payment and agreement, the domain is transfered to undev or epik's registrar, then...

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davidc1 said:

You cannot lease as epik with undeveloped. You can request monthly payments, for domain at least $495, not for others.

To use epik for leasing, the domain must be in epik's registrar.

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robepik said:

Sure, or use Epik's free parking landers, and you can see the exact contact details of the person making the offer so that you can smart-price your domain before you offer the sale or lease.

PM me with your Epik account email and we'll approve you for selling and leasing domains that are registered elsewhere. As you start getting sales, you can consolidate at Epik is you like.

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davidc1 said:

Sent you a pm.
I dont find any documentation regarding, fees, how it works, withdraw...etc

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jamesall said:

How does leasing work in practice?​

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topdom said:

Problem with leasing: You decide to lease apple.net. Apple.com rents it while pretending to be an unrelated company, says bad things about Apple Inc on the website. And get the domain in udrp.
This is not the worst case scenario.

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robepik said:

I have yet to see it happen. If that is a concern, the registrant places restrictions on authorized use. The vast majority (like 99%) are people who want to buy the domain but cannot afford it. There would be little value to trash something you intend to own. So, yes, theoretically an issue but practically not happening.

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robepik said:

I have yet to see it happen. If that is a concern, the registrant places restrictions on authorized use. The vast majority (like 99%) are people who want to buy the domain but cannot afford it. There would be little value to trash something you intend to own. So, yes, theoretically an issue but practically not happening.

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papeter said:

I agree with Robepik this leasing is definitely the way to go, it's a great model.

$10K month with 200 names @ $50 month means that the 200 names must be very very good names that have commercial intent and must be short 1 to 2 word (radio) popular names. To lease a great domain must be worth at very the least $1000 / $5K to $10K each if you expect to get $50 a month from it.

So lets assume each domain costs $1000 to buy which would be $200,000 in total and your ROI in year 1 would be 60% which would be a fantastic return! A $5K cost per domain would give you a ROI 12% also not a bad return.

It would be difficult in my opinion to earn $10k a month unless you have an amazing portfolio of domains.

Peter

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