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Hello guys, today was the forth time in this week that godaddy steal the domain exactly at the moment of buying. This time was a deleted domain which was available. I used the Godaddy appraisal tool and in same moment I was logged in with everything in my basket and it was only one step....proceed to payment.
After I used this damm tool, it was a nice appraisal price and I am 100% sure that these guys get informed about nice domains.
Suddenly the price changed ! Some thousands of dollars. This domain was available ! I took a screenshot. This is robbery !
Ok!!!! I can understand that this is about who is fast and who is not but they play really dirty game! Is not that 2,3,5 or 100 persons fight to grub the domain....this is like inside job and organized well. Like this is almost impossible to grab something . Godaddy you are the most terrible and dishonest registrar I ever saw.
This is the fourth time in a week, you guys be careful ! If you want to keep your idea safe don’t don’t don’t do what I did.
And if godaddy is honest I wait for an answer right here in public , and to reply and explain if I am wrong or not. I called customer service and answer was mmmmm, aaaaa’ maybe, maybe someone bought it .....how is possible ? Every time with nice domains happens this . Only with nice domains .
Pm after I received the slap with the no available anymore in 5 seconds I looked at least 6 registrars and was available . After some minutes everywhere was not available which means that this happened in that moment
 
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Always kindof a pain in the butt to explain but definitely well worth it to help anyone who is interested in a nice dot tv domain name.

Everything in dot tv land changed on Mar 18, 2010. All real good, lets call them (premiums) dot tv domains that were registered any time after this date are all standard yearly renewal fees ($25 - $35). This is a guarantee.

Verisign/Dot tv is the first tld ro create this premium pricing model. Just my words and thoughts here but this is something i firmly believe..

NewG tlds created their premium pricing structures after the dot tv premium pricing reg structure. Unfortunately many newG's added crazy inflated yearly renewal prices on top of the first year reg fee also.

Any killer name (premium) that is dropped is always repriced by Verisign. So lets say i dropped WTF.tv which is standard renewal, Verisign would reprice it at $1200 - $5/10k ish. This is a one time fee. Just like all new Gs do now. Only difference is after that one time reg fee, all yearly renewals are now standard unlike many new Gs that have crazy yearly renewal fees also.

If you ever want to buy a killer dot tv that was registered previous to Mar 10, 2010 there is no chart or directory anywhere to tell you what the yearly renewal pricing is so i always suggest to have seller show you a screenshot of the renewal fee of the current registrar.

Here is one more little goofy thing about these premium dot tvs which is probably the root of the problem you had w/your How.tv registration issue.

These premium dot tvs can only be regged at certain premium dot tv registrars. Last time i checked (which was years ago) i believe it was only 9 Registrars total. I know Dynadot and Name.com and Epik are (3) of those premium dot tv Registrars. This scenario could be frustrating if you wanted all of your domains at one registrar that does not participate in that program. I know, because i tried transferring all of my domains to GoDaddy one year and all of my premium dot tvs had to stay within that premium registrar network lets call it.

Not sure why it showed up at GoDaddy since last i checked GD does not accept premium dot tv domains.

Hope this helps a bit.

Either way, i hope the How.tv 75k sale goes thru. It really is a great domain for any videocentric "how to" site.

Any updates on if this sale completed @robepik ?

The buyer is in the UAE. The transaction should close within this week. I just spoke to the buyer via phone now to review closing mechanics. Looks good.
 
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The buyer is in the UAE. The transaction should close within this week. I just spoke to the buyer via phone now to review closing mechanics. Looks good.

Great job Rob

Swiss registrant owns How.tv for 14 years, new registrant 2 days and gets $75,000 sale. #Random #DomainingCrazy
 
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Didn’t how.tv sell for $11k on sedo in 2011?

Yes you are correct my error, I was looking at a whois history that I thought dated back to 2004 not 2014 when the Swiss registrant had the name. So it was regged in 2003 it looks like, sold in 2011 for $11,000 dropped and now sold for $75,000.

Thank you for pointing that out.
 
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Here is how it looked in 2007
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Well folks, the news here just got better.

We have a confirmed buyer for How.TV closing at $75,000 *.
For those who are new to the story, this was a new hand registration on Friday. The transaction is currently in escrow at Epik. Congratulations in advance to the registrant for some outrageous ROI. Love that. I hope the registrant consolidates all their domains at Epik so we can keep closing big exits for them for many years to come.

* Note: Traditionally, Epik does not disclose customer domain sales. This is in line with our positioning as the Swiss Bank of Domains. However, because this is such a "David vs. Goliath" story, it had to be shared. The Domaining industry is alive and well. I think the key in this sale negotiation was that instead of saying "make offer", the prospects were invited to either (1) lease the domain, or (2) pay the full asking price. The buyer choose option 2.


Pro Tips for working with Epik:

1. Bulk Domain Search

For anyone still searching for domains at Godaddy, I recommend using our fast and accurate bulk search engine which you can find here:

https://registrar.epik.com/index/bulk-register-domain

If you need to search more than 500 domains at a time, contact our support team for approval and we will increase your search limits.

2. Fast Domain Registration using your default WHOIS settings


If you want to complete registrations quickly, you can skip the confirmation steps by activating our express checkout option. It is in your advanced settings for Epik:

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Or you can use our free API and write your own scripts.

And yes, you can use our 2 Factor SMS, Google Authenticator, or even free MaxLock to protect your domains at Epik. Privacy is free as usual and you have the option of holding your proceeds from sales and leases in the form of tax-free Masterbucks, or simply cash out to check, ACH, wire, PayPal or major cryptocurrencies.

It is time to Celebrate Liberty from bad registrars!


Where is Godaddy? Even my dear friend @Joe Styler (come to Epik Joe!) is AWOL on a response because there is no defense for crap software and we all know it. Since this initial post on Friday, I have
been told through multiple private messages that inaccurate domain search results for newly dropped domains is routine at GoDaddy. That's crazy! Do the math. This was a $75,000 mistake! Seriously folks, why does anyone not use Epik at this point?

Here are the special Epik bonus offers valid through end-October:

(1) Fund your new Epik account this week with bank transfer, PayPal, or BTC, and we'll add a 5% bonus

(2) Transfer your .COM domains for just $6.49 -- $2 off the normal price through October 31, 2018


Stop accepting mediocrity. Vote with your domains and liberate yourself from bad registrars today! As you can see, liberty pays for itself!

Any questions, email me at [email protected].
Well folks, the news here just got better.

We have a confirmed buyer for How.TV closing at $75,000 *.
For those who are new to the story, this was a new hand registration on Friday. The transaction is currently in escrow at Epik. Congratulations in advance to the registrant for some outrageous ROI. Love that. I hope the registrant consolidates all their domains at Epik so we can keep closing big exits for them for many years to come.

* Note: Traditionally, Epik does not disclose customer domain sales. This is in line with our positioning as the Swiss Bank of Domains. However, because this is such a "David vs. Goliath" story, it had to be shared. The Domaining industry is alive and well. I think the key in this sale negotiation was that instead of saying "make offer", the prospects were invited to either (1) lease the domain, or (2) pay the full asking price. The buyer choose option 2.


Pro Tips for working with Epik:

1. Bulk Domain Search

For anyone still searching for domains at Godaddy, I recommend using our fast and accurate bulk search engine which you can find here:

https://registrar.epik.com/index/bulk-register-domain

If you need to search more than 500 domains at a time, contact our support team for approval and we will increase your search limits.

2. Fast Domain Registration using your default WHOIS settings


If you want to complete registrations quickly, you can skip the confirmation steps by activating our express checkout option. It is in your advanced settings for Epik:

Show attachment 99456

Or you can use our free API and write your own scripts.

And yes, you can use our 2 Factor SMS, Google Authenticator, or even free MaxLock to protect your domains at Epik. Privacy is free as usual and you have the option of holding your proceeds from sales and leases in the form of tax-free Masterbucks, or simply cash out to check, ACH, wire, PayPal or major cryptocurrencies.

It is time to Celebrate Liberty from bad registrars!


Where is Godaddy? Even my dear friend @Joe Styler (come to Epik Joe!) is AWOL on a response because there is no defense for crap software and we all know it. Since this initial post on Friday, I have
been told through multiple private messages that inaccurate domain search results for newly dropped domains is routine at GoDaddy. That's crazy! Do the math. This was a $75,000 mistake! Seriously folks, why does anyone not use Epik at this point?

Here are the special Epik bonus offers valid through end-October:

(1) Fund your new Epik account this week with bank transfer, PayPal, or BTC, and we'll add a 5% bonus

(2) Transfer your .COM domains for just $6.49 -- $2 off the normal price through October 31, 2018


Stop accepting mediocrity. Vote with your domains and liberate yourself from bad registrars today! As you can see, liberty pays for itself!

Any questions, email me at [email protected].

Hi Everyone, if you fund your account, please make sure to email [email protected] with your PIN so we can add the bonus. Thanks!
 
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Almost all GD appraisals are in the 4-figures..



Wow. Once this is settled I sure am moving.

Should have moved.. Searched for a name that I was long waiting for to drop. It was available, went to cart and it gave me an error the domain wasn't available anymore. (I have screenshots)
Not sure if someone regged it or it was 'held hostage' or it is just their crap engine.
 
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Is the Epik Escrow set up?

Yes, set up. Spoke with the buyer this morning in Dubai (their work week starts Sunday). We should have an update from the buyer on Monday as they put their funds together. In the meantime, I will likely advise the registrant to bid up the second 5 figure bidder just to keep that iron warm.
 
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Looks like the nameservers changed to Bodis, if this name is sold why did the seller do this? Makes little sense. Why would anyone have a sale in escrow and park it saying name might be for sale, the Dubai buyer should be pissed if they think they are completing a domain sale.
 
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Good luck on the sale.

Epik is great. I just need a massive sale on one of my Epik domains to help fund more domains. (I just transferred about 40-50 more domains to Epik over the last week. Thanks for the transfer sale, Rob.)
 
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Looks like the nameservers changed to Bodis, if this name is sold why did the seller do this? Makes little sense. Why would anyone have a sale in escrow and park it saying name might be for sale, the Dubai buyer should be pissed if they think they are completing a domain sale.

The name isn’t sold and that’s the problem. I am not sure why the seller changed nameservers either. Seems like a way of suggesting they aren’t as confident. Only time will tell.
 
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Yes, set up. Spoke with the buyer this morning in Dubai (their work week starts Sunday). We should have an update from the buyer on Monday as they put their funds together. In the meantime, I will likely advise the registrant to bid up the second 5 figure bidder just to keep that iron warm.

Any update?
 
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It may be bug, I remember a few years ago I was waiting one domain to expire and didnt know nothing about expiredomains and GD auction and closeout, so I was trying the domain I wished. I was checking it each evening and one day I checked it and GD showed it was aviable for reg fee. I paid it and got email and refund in a few minutes. I tried to reg it with another registrar and it was not aviable. The domain became aviable just 2 weeks later.
From another side you could be right, because if they see a good domain, why not to reg it and sell for xxxx, instead of let you reg it for a few bucks?
Anyway, they have a lot of bugs, because of that I reg at Namesilo and transfer there all my domains.
 
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I am trying to understand this post here Rob.

Yes, set up. Spoke with the buyer this morning in Dubai (their work week starts Sunday). We should have an update from the buyer on Monday as they put their funds together. In the meantime, I will likely advise the registrant to bid up the second 5 figure bidder just to keep that iron warm.

If buyer at 75k is legit and working out payment details, why would there be any bidding up the bidder #2?

And registrant cannot bid up auction since he is seller and cant bid on his own auction.

So correct me if i am wrong here. Bidder at 75k in Dubai might not go thru. Maybe it will but it is taking too long. So are you trying to get bidder 2 higher? Or lower than 75k? So lets say you are working on bidder 2 at 80 k or something similar?

Example...
I was bidding on a condo here in Chicago and offered 5k over list price but because i had to be financed i lost it to someone who came in and only gave exact asking price, but in cash.

I am guessing that is the same situation you are talking about here? So bidder #2 might come in lower but have the funds in cash or be in a better financing position.

Sorry just trying to understand this line of yours here...

"I will likely advise the registrant to bid up the second 5 figure bidder just to keep that iron warm."

Thanks.
 
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I am trying to understand this post here Rob.



If buyer at 75k is legit and working out payment details, why would there be any bidding up the bidder #2?

And registrant cannot bid up auction since he is seller and cant bid on his own auction.

So correct me if i am wrong here. Bidder at 75k in Dubai might not go thru. Maybe it will but it is taking too long. So are you trying to get bidder 2 higher? Or lower than 75k? So lets say you are working on bidder 2 at 80 k or something similar?

Example...
I was bidding on a condo here in Chicago and offered 5k over list price but because i had to be financed i lost it to someone who came in and only gave exact asking price, but in cash.

I am guessing that is the same situation you are talking about here? So bidder #2 might come in lower but have the funds in cash or be in a better financing position.

Sorry just trying to understand this line of yours here...

"I will likely advise the registrant to bid up the second 5 figure bidder just to keep that iron warm."

Thanks.

I didn't understand the comment about the second bidder going up. In fact, why would you do that unless you thought the 1st bidder is not going to follow through? In addition, I would think you would be violating the initial agreement with the 1st bidder, unless they specifically said they aren't funding. Doesn't make much sense.
 
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There is a legally binding $75K offer from a buyer in Dubai which we are working to close hopefully without requiring a legal action to enforce the sale after the buyer accepted the buy it now price. As for the timing, just FYI, the discussion cycles for this particular transaction are little slower than normal because the seller (NamePros member) is in the hospital recovering from a surgical procedure. So, send him good thoughts.
 
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@Eric Lyon or @Kenny
Is it possible to seperate this thread into 2 threads.

The OP here was complaining about something at GD but myself and others got involved when..

@robepik 's announced the sale of How.tv being sold at Epik for 75k.

All these bumps might look bad when we keep seeing a GD bashing title and we are not even in here for that reason at all.

Thanks
 
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Probably going to be very hard to get a judgement against someone in Dubai. looks like the seller is on Namepros right now.
 
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@Eric Lyon or @Kenny
Is it possible to seperate this thread into 2 threads.

The OP here was complaining about something at GD but myself and others got involved when..

@robepik 's announced the sale of How.tv being sold at Epik for 75k.

All these bumps might look bad when we keep seeing a GD bashing title and we are not even in here for that reason at all.

Thanks

Yes the thread mistitled from the get go which I explained last week. GoDaddy has never offered premium .tv registrations, @Joe Styler and @Paul Nicks can verify that.
 
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We have not and do not offer premium .tv registrations ever to my knowledge - you are correct in that. If this was a premium registration you wouldn't see it as available with us when you search.
 
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We have not and do not offer premium .tv registrations ever to my knowledge - you are correct in that. If this was a premium registration you wouldn't see it as available with us when you search.

Which is what I explained when this thread started, so like @Vito said this thread should be relabeled How.tv regged and sold.
 
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