information I will never help another domainer

uglydork · Oct 10, 2018

So I have a guy hit me up with an unsolicited direct message asking me to buy a 3 letter domain -he did the same thing months ago with another name and I nicely said no.
He wanted 6 figures months ago and now 50k. It is a nice 3 letter but I am trying to sell Birdsnest.com and pacemakers.com right now so I’m tied up.
The guy keeps messaging me so I decide to help him out and I reach out to my big boy contacts - I try not to bother these guys unless it’s something good and out of my range.
This is on Monday - a holiday where I live. My big guy gives me a number and the seller doesn’t like it. Ok - don’t take it - goodbye. Nope - comes back with another number. I tell him my big guy won’t negotiate- he insists.
At this point I am a broker on this deal! My big guy literally tells me “ tell him to fuck off” and my big guy is in the middle of closing on a house. The buyer knows all this information and keeps pushing. He finally tells me he will take the big guys offer after hours of telling me he has had better offers. I’m shielding my big guy from all this nonsense to help the seller get a deal done - he seems desperate.
I literally tell him that the big guy is buying a house as we speak - he has to agree and then I will give you his email for escrow. I’m not giving out the big guys name or email to anyone or he will disown me.
He keeps pressing me for his address.
It’s a holiday - I’m off work - my wife is complaining because I’m ignoring her and the kids - it was the last 80 degree day in Buffalo for 7 months. The buyer is busy buying a house with his wife out of the country with a time difference.
I finally get the ok from the big boy to give him an address to start escrow. I DM the buyer the address and.......POOF! Not even a thank you. It’s been 2 days and I know Escrow closed - the last message is me giving him an email address and then silence.
I literally spent hours as a go between helping this seller - I had to keep a buffer or the big boy would have told him to kiss his ass and backed out.
I spent my day off helping someone and not even a thanks - if you read this - it’s normally 10% - you’re welcome- that was a big sale - enjoy you sale and money.
Don’t help people-

TRY · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
The seller reached out to me after seeing this and we talked it out-
Just wanted to update

I like you ugly dork but it's partly your fault because instead of jumping to conclusions you should have sent an email and asked how it went. I know sometimes we deal with a lot of BS from people but we shouldn't expect the worst from everybody. We should always give the benefit of the doubt because not everyone is bad. In this case the deal didn't go through but in others there can be so many other reasons. Many People in this industry have a crazy life and so much going on.

uglydork · Oct 11, 2018

I should have let this go for a few more days - my frustration got the better of me. I am picturing the buyer sitting on a mountain of cash laughing at me. That isnt what happened and I am sorry. I know better for next time. I would do it all over again, I like helping people. This was NEVER about money - I dont care about the money. It was the perceived notion of gratitude for a day of work on my part dealing with 2 people and a wife complaining.

TRY · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
I should have let this go for a few more days - my frustration got the better of me. I am picturing the buyer sitting on a mountain of cash laughing at me. That isnt what happened and I am sorry. I know better for next time. I would do it all over again, I like helping people. This was NEVER about money - I dont care about the money. It was the perceived notion of gratitude for a day of work on my part dealing with 2 people and a wife complaining.

You could have waited ten years and not gotten a response. Again since you're helping him you would not have been intrusive at all by asking him how everything went. It's called Following Up.

uglydork · Oct 11, 2018

Brandingtheweb.com said:
You could have waited ten years and not gotten a response. Again since you're helping him you would not have been intrusive at all by asking him how everything went. It's called Following Up.

You are wrong. Its not my responsibility to pull a thank you from someone.
It is a common courtesy to reach out and thank someone.
I'm not talking about this case, I am talking about life in general. If someone does you a favor, you thank them right away.
I should not have to beg someone to thank me for anything. I have had very wealthy domainers do me favors and I thank them and send a few bucks - even for advice. That's how life works - thats how you build relationships. Conversely, there are people on here I wouldn't help for any amount of money because of how they talk to me - I have a list. That also hurts in the long run.
If someone does you a favor you reach out and thank them, I shouldn't have to explain this.
Im not going back and forth with you, Im just stating a fact of how to be civil in life.

TRY · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
You are wrong. Its not my responsibility to pull a thank you from someone.
It is a common courtesy to reach out and thank someone.
I'm not talking about this case, I am talking about life in general. If someone does you a favor, you thank them right away.
I should not have to beg someone to thank me for anything. I have had very wealthy domainers do me favors and I thank them and send a few bucks - even for advice. That's how life works - thats how you build relationships. Conversely, there are people on here I wouldn't help for any amount of money because of how they talk to me - I have a list. That also hurts in the long run.
If someone does you a favor you reach out and thank them, I shouldn't have to explain this.
Im not going back and forth with you, Im just stating a fact of how to be civil in life.

I can see your point considering you thought everything was done and he didn't need any more help from you.

wwwweb · Oct 11, 2018

Crypto King said:
This post is not accurate please update it with correct details. The deal didn't go through, the buyer pulled out at the last minute even after payment and auth code was sent. Escrow sent his money back too even though auth code was provided.

The deal never happened and no money was made - You can check whois. Either way a thank you should have been said to you for helping. I think the seller was a bit upset with the dealing falling through and he never got back to say thanks. I know the seller so this is fact. He has said he will be sending you a thank you message. He isn't a dick after all

Wait a second is this domain the one you are selling on namepros rfq.com for what was last week $50k, then sold posted on Monday.

What a wild ride.

Timeline seems to support this.

What reason did the buyer use to back out, or done during inspection period? Did the buyer have a buyer waiting who maybe backed out ?

Sorry to hear deal fell thru, nobody likes to see that happen after agreement has been reached on both sides, and auth code provided. Hopefully another buyer comes thru.

Arfy · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
The seller reached out to me after seeing this and we talked it out-
Just wanted to update

If you could also update the original post.

wwwweb said:
Wait a second is this domain the one you are selling on namepros rfq.com for what was last week $50k, then sold posted on Monday.

What a wild ride.

Timeline seems to support this.

What reason did the buyer use to back out, or done during inspection period? Did the buyer have a buyer waiting who maybe backed out ?

Sorry to hear deal fell thru, nobody likes to see that happen after agreement has been reached on both sides, and auth code provided. Hopefully another buyer comes thru.

Thanks mate, atleast you have heard both sides of the story. This whole story is missing a huge chunk, not mention how someone was abused and threatened to be destroyed over email.

Chris Hydrick · Oct 11, 2018

Crypto King said:
This whole story is missing a huge chunk, not mention how someone was abused and threatened to be destroyed over email.

MSN-Domains · Oct 11, 2018

Enough has been said now - You guys should respect both seller/buyer if they wan't to air the details of the deal let them

Intermediaries should never disclose a private transaction in a open forum without good reason. Regardless of who it is, enough has been said on this

wwwweb said:
Wait a second is this domain the one you are selling on namepros rfq.com for what was last week $50k, then sold posted on Monday.

What a wild ride.

Timeline seems to support this.

What reason did the buyer use to back out, or done during inspection period? Did the buyer have a buyer waiting who maybe backed out ?

Sorry to hear deal fell thru, nobody likes to see that happen after agreement has been reached on both sides, and auth code provided. Hopefully another buyer comes thru.

Crypto King said:
If you could also update the original post.

Thanks mate, atleast you have heard both sides of the story. This whole story is missing a huge chunk, not mention how someone was abused and threatened to be destroyed over email.

Arfy · Oct 11, 2018

MSN-Domains said:
Enough has been said now - You guys should respect both seller/buyer if they wan't to air the details of the deal let them

Intermediaries should never disclose a private transaction in a open forum without good reason. Regardless of who it is, enough has been said on this

I have not disclosed anything. If I did, the "buyer" would be the one who would be exposed for being an egotistical and abusive person who seems to think he is invincible.

I'm not going to expose any details I don't want to harm another human being no matter how much of a douche they are.

Also... I am not the one who created this thread. I have the right to defend myself and leak the emails between me and buyer to show the true story but I will leave it here for now.

I won't be doing business ever again with that buyer or their company.

uglydork · Oct 11, 2018

MSN-Domains said:
Enough has been said now - You guys should respect both seller/buyer if they wan't to air the details of the deal let them

Intermediaries should never disclose a private transaction in a open forum without good reason. Regardless of who it is, enough has been said on this

Yes Dad? Who are you to tell us what to do?
Nobody has leaked anything - it’s all assumptions.
The seller and I are talking now - it’s all good. I reacted to quickly and he should have contacted me - we both had issues
Is that ok with you Sir? SMH

MSN-Domains · Oct 11, 2018

Crypto King said:
I have not disclosed anything. If I did, the "buyer" would be the one who would be exposed for being an egotistical and abusive person who seems to think he is invincible.

I'm not going to expose any details I don't want to harm another human being no matter how much of a douche they are.

Also... I am not the one who created this thread. I have the right to defend myself and leak the emails between me and buyer to show the true story but I will leave it here for now.

Defend yourself against what? What are you even talking about - This whole thing comes across way to emotional and needy, bordering on desperate

Watch the facts of life - You may learn something

FlipperC · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
I should have let this go for a few more days - my frustration got the better of me.

Happens all of us. don't sweat it. I like what you do& post.

Arfy · Oct 11, 2018

MSN-Domains said:
Defend yourself against what? What are you even talking about - This whole thing comes across way to emotional and needy, bordering on desperate

Watch the facts of life - You may learn something

Do you have anything useful to say? 2 useless comments so far

MSN-Domains · Oct 11, 2018

Crypto King said:
Do you have anything useful to say? 2 useless comments so far

Yes. You will never make it.

History is a great teacher, Onassis has to take a another man in his mouth for his freedom. And here's two Men (apparently), 1 crying about not receiving a thank you and 1 crying about how he was spoken too.

There were many ways to go on the offensive with it, but you choose the path of weakness which was to cry about it

Do a bigger deal?
Hijack one of his deals?
Outsell him?
Outwork him?
Outsmart him?

My last word on the matter - Good luck

Arfy · Oct 11, 2018

MSN-Domains said:
Yes. You will never make it.

History is a great teacher, Onassis has to take a another man in his mouth for his freedom. And here's two Men (apparently) , 1 crying about not receiving a thank you and 1 crying about how he was spoken too.

There were many ways to go on the offensive with it, but you choose the path of weakness which was to cry about it

Do a bigger deal?
Hijack one of his deals?
Outsell him?
Outwork him?
Outsmart him?

My last word on the matter - Good luck

3rd useless comment. Luckily it is your last.

karmaco · Oct 11, 2018

Crypto King said:
I have not disclosed anything. If I did, the "buyer" would be the one who would be exposed for being an egotistical and abusive person who seems to think he is invincible.

I'm not going to expose any details I don't want to harm another human being no matter how much of a douche they are.

Also... I am not the one who created this thread. I have the right to defend myself and leak the emails between me and buyer to show the true story but I will leave it here for now.

I won't be doing business ever again with that buyer or their company.

Welcome to domaining. Plenty of ego to go around it seems. I am sure you would not be surprised to know you are not first to have a sale fall through or be chewed out by another domainer or any buyer. I would chose what I say publicly carefully when you are dealing with known hotheads. This business has a long memory.

You are of course free to say what you like but it could start a war. Just learn from it and move on.

uglydork · Oct 11, 2018

MSN-Domains said:
Yes. You will never make it.

History is a great teacher, Onassis has to take a another man in his mouth for his freedom. And here's two Men (apparently), 1 crying about not receiving a thank you and 1 crying about how he was spoken too.

There were many ways to go on the offensive with it, but you choose the path of weakness which was to cry about it

Do a bigger deal?
Hijack one of his deals?
Outsell him?
Outwork him?
Outsmart him?

My last word on the matter - Good luck

You’re an idiot

biggie · Oct 11, 2018

if they were your names, I could see one putting in the work, as the rev helps support the fam

but putting your family aside, on a rare 80 degree day....
for somebody else,
who prolly ain't offering nothing upfront for this sacrifice...
sucks for the family

at least that's what they told me, thru mental telepathy-

imo...

uglydork · Oct 11, 2018

Just an FYI - I am canceling my Namepros account for now - I can’t deal with backstabbing and childish assholes on this site
It’s more bad than good at this point - I don’t really get anything out of it anymore

mr-x · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
Don’t help people-

Or use common sense and be selective instead of greedy.

mr-x · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
Just an FYI - I am canceling my Namepros account for now - I can’t deal with backstabbing and childish assholes on this site
It’s more bad than good at this point - I don’t really get anything out of it anymore

I'm 98% sure you're a nice guy who needs to vent, but you invite drama and seem to like it.

uglydork · Oct 11, 2018

mr-x said:
Or use common sense and be selective instead of greedy.

How was this greedy? Did you bother reading any of this?
Your opinion of me means 0%

mr-x · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
How was this greedy? Did you bother reading any of this?
Your opinion of me means 0%

I hope the buyer gets a conscience but from your description, I doubt it.

MapleDots · Oct 11, 2018

uglydork said:
Just an FYI - I am canceling my Namepros account for now - I can’t deal with backstabbing and childish assholes on this site
It’s more bad than good at this point - I don’t really get anything out of it anymore

That would be unfortunate and you would lose access to a great asset.

The thing about a-holes... everyone has one.

I am ok being one once in a while, it's unfortunate that some people seem to live by it and focus on being one on a daily basis.

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