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I am sure some domainers sold NNN.com domain for $1000, $5000, $25,000 or even $50,000. At each and every level, those domainers left BIG MONEY on the table. They were in a rush to sell. What else is new? I started pricing my NNN.com at $100k ++ back before it ever hit $5k. I watched them climb from nothing to $1 Million and some for even more.
3 letter domains are selling for around $25k-37k. Way too cheap!! 1/10 of what the prices should be and probably will be in the not too distant future. LLL.com domains are worth a MINIMUM $100k! Any less is weak. Selling too cheap. A unique asset to fill a unique need of something very specific and you pull your pants down??!! WEAK!
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I like this comment from the article..
"Dave L.
September 25th, 2018
Rick, are you stocking up on these great deals of LLL’s for $25k-$37k? if you choose not to buy a certain LLL.com for $25k, it is the same decision as the domainer who sells it for $25k. You are both choosing to have $25k cash instead of that domain.
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an exercise:
4.cn got burned hard and has made a fire sale of about 200 LLL.com last month. the CHIP ones, many also western premium, were sold between 22k and 30k. Has Rick bought any?

there is a difference in what we think and believe what is the value of a domain and the money we are willing to commit...

Rick has said that he does not pay $5k, $10k or $25k for domains unless he thinks they can be sold in high 6 figures or even 7 figures. But then again, if any LLL.com will soon be valued at $100k then Rick should buy them all. He has money for it. He knows the value of domains. It is an easy money opportunity.
 
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The prices will certainly rise, they are the lowest they have been and there is only one thing that can happen now. As to how high they will rise, thats anyone's guess and we will have to wait and see.

As I said, you dont know if he is scooping them up? Have a look at some of his names and the "updated" date on the WHOIS? You may be surprised :xf.wink:

I would venture to say he is buying them like candy bars at those prices.

The only bad thing, here we go again with the recovery period, after they sell them off at that pricing, just like CHIP 4L.com frenzy, that is no fun
 
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I like this comment from the article..
"Dave L.
September 25th, 2018
Rick, are you stocking up on these great deals of LLL’s for $25k-$37k? if you choose not to buy a certain LLL.com for $25k, it is the same decision as the domainer who sells it for $25k. You are both choosing to have $25k cash instead of that domain.
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I think this logic is not very accurate. I buy a domain for 10, but won't sell for 20, this doesn't mean I would buy it for 20. This has to do with liquidity. Purchase price must be below expected sale price x liquidity. Actually liquidity depends on asking price also, so change the right side with
max (sale price x corresponding liquidity). For LLL.com's these prices may be close, so reseller can sell to another reseller; but for average quality domains renewals is the biggest problem. Liquidity needs to be increased significantly for profit. Reseller to reseller can be only at very low prices, this is why many good illiquid domains don't get any offers here and sellers says up up up. They can't sell for 50 here, but this doesn't mean they can't sell for 500 or more outside. I have examples.
 
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I think this logic is not very accurate. I buy a domain for 10, but won't sell for 20, this doesn't mean I would buy it for 20. This has to do with liquidity. Purchase price must be below expected sale price x liquidity. Actually liquidity depends on asking price also, so change the right side with
max (sale price x corresponding liquidity). For LLL.com's these prices may be close, so reseller can sell to another reseller; but for average quality domains renewals is the biggest problem. Liquidity needs to be increased significantly for profit. Reseller to reseller can be only at very low prices, this is why many good illiquid domains don't get any offers here and sellers says up up up. They can't sell for 50 here, but this doesn't mean they can't sell for 500 or more outside. I have examples.
I think you are reading what I put in bold font wrong.

You have a LLL com for sale at $25, 000, I take a look and decide not to buy..then I made a decision to keep my $25,000 and not own that domain.

If someone had a LLL.com and you offered to buy it for $25,000 and he sells it..it means that he rather have the $25,000 than the domain!
 
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Rick's post is not about what he believes is right.

It is about what he wants others to do so that he can profit.

Let's say there are around 10,000 LLL.coms that are not used and are for sale or could be for sale with the right offer.

Let's say Rick owns quite a few. He is smart and can count his money. He knows that buying more LLLs is not too lucrative, but he stands to gain considerably if the floor prices for LLLs were to go up.

So he writes this to persuade others not to sell their names so that the inventory at low end would dry up and that all

a) end users that need LLL but not a specific one
b) end users that need specific LLL, but are not willing to pay above the market price for similar quality LLL
c) resellers that want to invest in LLLs

would have to shell out more.

This is good for him, because now his assets are liquid at much higher profit point, in case he decides to liquidate or just need cash. And also his end user hold sale prices don't seem as ridiculous, as it might otherwise seem to potential buyer.
 
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Rick's post is not about what he believes is right.

It is about what he wants others to do so that he can profit.

Let's say there are around 10,000 LLL.coms that are not used and are for sale or could be for sale with the right offer.

Let's say Rick owns quite a few. He is smart and can count his money. He knows that buying more LLLs is not too lucrative, but he stands to gain considerably if the floor prices for LLLs were to go up.

So he writes this to persuade others not to sell their names so that the inventory at low end would dry up and that all

a) end users that need LLL but not a specific one
b) end users that need specific LLL, but are not willing to pay above the market price for similar quality LLL
c) resellers that want to invest in LLLs

would have to shell out more.

This is good for him, because now his assets are liquid at much higher profit point, in case he decides to liquidate or just need cash. And also his end user hold sale prices don't seem as ridiculous, as it might otherwise seem to potential buyer.

Why would floor prices even matter to someone who doesn't sell until they get the prices they want?

This just doesn't seem likely in the context of Rick. He has been criticizing selling low and flipping forever. There is no agenda other than he enjoys the attention of ruffling feathers of those who are flipping domains for smaller margins.
 
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Why would floor prices even matter to someone who doesn't sell until they get the prices they want?

This just doesn't seem likely in the context of Rick. He has been criticizing selling low and flipping forever. There is no agenda other than he enjoys the attention of ruffling feathers of those who are flipping domains for smaller margins.

Please reread. It is right there why floor matters for someone who does not sell at floor.
 
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I understand, I still don't feel that it really matters to Rick.He is looking for that one right buyer that needs his domain. He's not going to care about comps. Comps aren't even comps when it's one of one. There is no ceiling in a domain class, only a bottom.

It's worth what it's worth to the buyer and seller. If those align its sold.
 
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Rick's post is not about what he believes is right.

It is about what he wants others to do so that he can profit.

BINGO!!!!

Rick seem only care about himself. he says he writes for others, but we are all selfish people. Badmouthing conferences when he doesn't do conference longer, badmouthing all domainers when he not buying and just holding. It funny in sad way.

People wake up everyone has bias. Rick more so then most.
 
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Rick is fishing only for whales because he can afford to sit back and wait for them. Most people here are busy flipping domains to other domainers at wholesale prices and I have to say, I've never been a fan of that strategy either. It seems like a lot of work for little return.

It would be kinda nice if wholesale sales weren't even reported because if anyone google's around they'll see all these low end and mostly crappy letter combinations trading hands at low prices and end users think that means something. And it does. It means these are mostly crappy letter combinations selling at wholesale - that's why you're not willing to sit on them long term. If it was good and you knew it, you certainly would not sell it for anything less than a home run.

Anyone that has been collecting these low end names but now needs to liquidate because of an unexpected expense, they're almost always going to liquidate the crappy ones first - and then hold the best ones that have the most upside potential. That's what you're seeing happen. So Rick's advice really just doesn't apply to every LLL or premium domain, but it does apply to the cream-of-the-crop.

And I don't think Rick's probably buying these up otherwise he wouldn't be here saying to not sell cheap. He'd be shooting himself in the foot. Rick is about 65 now, so maybe he's not wanting to invest in more inventory, I think he'd just want to maximize his return on what he has but otherwise sit back and enjoy the ride. I'm a little surprised he's trying to start up TRAFFIC again, but maybe he's gotten bored and wants to get back on the .com pulpit.

I do agree, it would be great to see Rick put $100K - $200K into picking up some of these domains he's complaining are selling too cheap, maybe only reveal his investment and domains to someone like Ron Jackson, and then show us all how its done. Ron can report just on the portfolio performance rather than specific transactions. If he proves that he could do it all over again starting now, well then he really earns the right to give all the advice he wants.

Back to selling... it's the same whether its LLL or 1-WORD or .COM or some other extension (like .CA that I primarily invest in). A QUALITY domain and having the PATIENCE to wait for the right buyer is the only way to catch a whale. You pull in one whale and its the equivalent of fishing all day every day for years catching only rockfish. You collect top quality and you can't really go wrong. Also consider that if you focus on quality, you'll have fewer domains to manage, much lower carrying costs, less work, higher profit margins, etc... This is what Rick should be saying.

So I'd rather have one $25K domain than 25 $1K domains. Those $1K domains are a dime a dozen, you'll work exponentially harder trying to sell them all and for a smaller profit. That $25K domain is going to be infinitely more unique and rare and when the right buyer comes along you can demand a much higher price. If you want to go fishing for whales you've gotta be fishing with the right bait, right?

OK, the whale analogy is technically a bad one since whales eat plankton and krill, but you know what I mean :)

So especially if this is just your side-hustle, focus on quality and not quantity. You'll have to dig a little harder than just finding someone liquidating their crap on a forum where the competition for anything actually good is going to be stiff...
 
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This is what Rick should be saying.

I'm on Twitter
I'm off twitter
I'm on Twitter

I'm the king
You suck

I got in early....
ha ha everyone else is an amateur

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I take everything he says with a grain of salt, unlike some of the yes men posting on his blog. He has people worshipping him like a god when most everything he has registered in the last 3 years is no better than what some of the namepros domainers are registering.

He has had great sales because he got in early and has great domains.

He has also had great sales because he is a salesman and knows how to hold for a good payday.
It's the salesman part of his strategy that I admire and the reason I follow him, there is no doubt that the combination of getting in early and his sales abilities have contributed to his good fortunes.


Could he repeat what he did if he started in today's market like some of the newer domainers?
He would probably do ok but that is no different than some of the other newer domainers.

It's easy to laugh and shout at others when one holds some of the best playing cards.
Deal from the same deck that everyone else has to deal from in today's market and the schadenfreude* might just end up being a little more muted.

shadenfreude*: look it up
 
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