news Green Bay Packers and Microsoft win domain name fight

Is this normal?
Just countering with a big offer and you lose your domain?
Or they just didn't want to go to court?

Think it had more to do with this:

The Packers argued a number of points in order to “obtain the relief” they were seeking with WIPO, including that the respondent “intentionally falsified its registration contact information, including fraudulently adopting complainant’s address as its own, which strongly supports a finding of bad faith.”

If you’re going to give fake registration info you’re liable to lose your domain for that alone but giving the info of the buyer as your own is even worse.

Why would they use the buyer's contact info as their registration info? For what purpose?

A lot of people who are involved with illicit business do things to hide their identity that they think will help them but turn out to not only not hide or help them but simply make them look guilty. These sellers for whatever reason must’ve thought they had something to hide.

xynames said:

A lot of people who are involved with illicit business do things to hide their identity

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"The Packers apparently reached out via a service to anonymously engage the Harris family.."

Like this?

Are you just posting nonsense to be controversial? Not the same thing.

Genuine question. I'm just learning about the ins & outs of domaining.

I wonder if you had a car that a mystery person wanted to buy, and that person turns out to be rich & famous, so you cheekily up the price, the buyer would be allowed to just take the car?

Well, what I am referring to is situations where someone is hiding his identity because he knows what he is doing is somehow illegal or wrong, and this backfires later by being used to show proof that he knew or should have known that what he was doing was illegal or wrong, or else why hide identity. That is what happened here.

Windoms said:

Is this normal?
Just countering with a big offer and you lose your domain?
Or they just didn't want to go to court?

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xynames said:

Think it had more to do with this:

The Packers argued a number of points in order to “obtain the relief” they were seeking with WIPO, including that the respondent “intentionally falsified its registration contact information, including fraudulently adopting complainant’s address as its own, which strongly supports a finding of bad faith.”

If you’re going to give fake registration info you’re liable to lose your domain for that alone but giving the info of the buyer as your own is even worse.

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What @xynames and Combined with the fact they AGREED TO THE INITIAL $5K OFFER then WENT BACK ON THE DEAL AND ASKED FOR $750K plus comps...........the lesson..

Greed is bad.....Greed+ plus breaking/going back on a agreement..= plain stupid !

For those that ask .... " can I rise my price after buyer accepted my first offer " Take Note

Yes, I agree, Greed lead them down the wrong path.
I aways assume unsolicited inbound inquires are whales from the start.

You can find the details of the decision handed down by the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) here -
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/search/text.jsp?case=D2018-0657

Also, another news article -

http://totalgreenbaypackers.com/gre...ily-sought-cash-tickets-and-tablets-geekwire/

cooljub said:

Genuine question. I'm just learning about the ins & outs of domaining.

I wonder if you had a car that a mystery person wanted to buy, and that person turns out to be rich & famous, so you cheekily up the price, the buyer would be allowed to just take the car?

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Did the potential buyer have a trademark on your car, TinselTown is a long held TM they had no rights to the name. They also changed the registrant info to pretend to be associated with them.

Packers have even registered TitletownTech trademark in october 2017. The case was filed march 2018.
They offered 5000$ in september 2017 for titletowntech.com. 2 weeks after the domain was registered. Domain owner accepted.
That could be die hard original cybersquatting through my city counselor friend lol. Multi million dollar projects like that dont happen overnight.
Then they announced the project in october 2017 and they backed out.

Imagine you see someone who you think has bad faith and he starts asking for 750.000$ and 8 lifetime greedy seats feeling like a vip.
Lol

During city council when they heard "microsoft"

Windoms said:

During city council when they heard "microsoft"

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Excellent use of images.

The things that stood out to me were:
1) "coincidental" timing of the registration.
2) Agreeing to sell, then backing out and asking for $750k.
3) Falsifying the WhoIs information

This was clearly someone who didn't know "Tech" at all. If you know tech you know how to make your whois information private.

Also to accept $5k and then back out is just idiotic. EVERYONE knows that you shouldn't back out of agreed deals, no matter what walk of life you come from.

Complainant won this fight, as they should have.

I would have just gone for the 8 season tickets for life.

CJ6 said:

I would have just gone for the 8 season tickets for life.

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Lol

CJ6 said:

I would have just gone for the 8 season tickets for life.

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Yeah once the project was made official 8 tickets and 8 tablets on top of $5000. They would have probably granted it with a smile.
750k made the whole thing rude.
the lifetime office programs too lol

The team went easy on them. They could have little doubt won a Federal Court lawsuit for 100k in damages plus fees. This was blatant dishonesty by the family, especially using the Packers contact info and asking for the moon after first agreeing to 5k, which I believe they were lucky to get offered them. This type of stuff is what gives domainers in general a poor reputation.