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Hi All,

A lot of people struggle with outbound or complain about having no sales via inbound or marketplace. Well domaining is not a get rich scheme and it takes lots of time , hard-work , capital and luck to succeed in the same.

Though everyone would love to have xxxxx sales however you cant have such big ticket sales without pouring thousands of dollars and wait for long time for the right end users to approach you. This post is for the beginner who wish to have regular xxx or low xxxx sales and keep their domaining journey going on.

3 words Geo/keyword domains has very low chances of getting sold via landing page or marketplace even if you hold them for years. Such domains can be sold via outbound easily however you have to follow the practice properly.

There are number of steps and factors in the same. I will try to list few of them here for your understanding.

Let me first share the basic..

1. Outbound is a volume game. It may happen that you wont receive any response for your first 20 domains and than your 21st domain may get sold.

2. Price is big factor . $200-$499 is a sweet spot for normal geo domains.

3. Searches and cpc matters in case of Geo/keyword domains and its easier to sell domains with good metrics.

4. Follow up matters a lot as it hardly happens that you would sell domain in your first mail itself.

5. Certain niche sells faster than other niches. Location and country matters a lot as well.

6. One need to have lots of patience and a proper schedule to succeed in outbound.

Now back to the outbound process:-

1. Find leads:- There are basically 5 ways to find lead for your domain.

a) Google.com :- You can find the list of existing companies which are presently ranking for your keyword.You can use semrush.com to get first 100 result of google.com if you wish to avoid manual work.

b) Google map/yellow-pages:- You would find names and details of the companies which are registered for that keyword in that region. For geo domains , google map works better than google.com. There are automated tools which can fetch the google map results .

c) ZFbot.com/Domainiq.com :- Both these tools provide you list of the domain which are related to your domain or have same keyword like yours.

d) Socal media:- LinkedIn etc can be great source for finding potential end user for your domain.

e) Advertisers:- It makes sense to contact the advertisers who are advertising for the keyword of your domain. You can find the list of the same from semrush.com.

2. Finding email id:- There are 3 ways to find email id for the leads you have collected from above sources.

a) Whois.com/whoxy.com :- After gdpr whois is no more openly available however you still find email ids in 20-30% cases as compared to earlier days as few registrars still shows whois detail. Whoxy.com is a portal from where you can fetch whois details in bulk.

b) Hunter.io/adapt.io :- Such paid tools are great way to find email id of potential leads. However be aware that even though they are paid tools but still email id accuracy would be 60-70% only.

c) Website:- Lastly you may directly visit the website and collect email id from there.

3. Sending mails:- This is a tricky step as it is very difficult to send mails these days. Free email id provider like gmail , yahoo etc have strict spam policy and most of your mail would land in the spam folder. Now you have 2 options:-

a) Free email providers:- You can create multiple email ids with free email providers like gmail , yahoo, outlook etc.

b) Logicboxes panel based registrar:- There are some registrar which uses logic-box panel and they provide 2 free email id along with every domain. You would have to set up email id there and use their server to send mail. It works like charm as i have tried Bigrock.com and nettigritty.com.

c) Own server:- You can set up your own smtp server and purchase multiple ip for sending mails. It is a complicated and expensive way so wont be suggested in the initial days.

4. Pricing & follow up:-

a) Pricing:-
Pricing plays a very big role especially in case of geo domains and 3 words emd domains. If you price them in $200-500 range than you can easily sell them. If it was a hand registered domain or purchased from go-daddy closeout than its a great roi.

b) Followup :- Now follow up can further be divided into 2 parts:-

1. Initial mail:- Suppose you collected 50 leads of end users for a particular domain and you sent mail to them. You may have received 1-2 response and no response from other leads. You can send a follow up mail after 2-3 weeks as its highly possible that many of them may have missed your initial mail or were out of office. Though never send more than 2 follow ups or else you would be spamming in general. Further be very careful not to send mail again to the same person who has already responded "No".

2. Price inquiry:- You have sent 50 mails and have received 3-4 price inquiry. You have sent them the details regarding the domain as well as your asking price. You should follow up every week or 2 regarding their interest. Under normal circumstances it takes 4-5 follow ups to finally sell a domain. It would hardly happen than you send them price and they immediately closed the deal.

5. Closing the deal:- You again have 3 options in this.

a) Paypal:- You can send a paypal invoice to the client and they can make the payment via them. I personally transfer the domain first and than ask for payment. It has never happened with me that client didn't make payment though their were delays in couple of cases. When you first transfer the domain and than ask for payment than it create trust factor in the eyes of end-users and deal closes faster. This works best in case of xxx deals as your risk factor is low.

b) Escrow :- You can create escrow account and ask the client to complete the transaction via that. Be aware that creating account at escrow is a tedious process and many times deal gets cancelled as end users do not want to take so much of headache. Escrow is recommended in case of xxxx and xxxxx deals and not at all recommended for xxx deals.

c) Marketplace:- If your domain is registered with Godaddy than you can ask the client to directly purchase from there or via landing pages like undeveloped.com. It works very well as these marketplace have high trust factor among the general public.


Some personal suggestions based on my experience of outbound.

1. Registrar:- If your domain is with Godaddy than it is easier to sell them . Godaddy is world's largest registrar and due to their massive advertising campaign everyone is aware about them. Most of the end user have account with godaddy or they dont mind opening account at Godaddy. If your domain is with any other registrar tha always do outbound after 60 days transfer lock is over.

2. Response time:- xxx purchases are normally spontaneous decision and end users immediately pay the same. If you receive a offer or end user agrees to your price than try to close the deal instantly. If you delay than their is high possibility that end user may change their mind or look for alternative options.

3. Related domains:- If you have a singular version than always purchase plural version as well if available. Further in case of Geo domain if you are marketing .com domain than always acquire cctld version of the same to be on safe side.

4. Calling :- If you receive a price inquiry than always try to call up the client as the possibility of leads getting closed increases manifold in case of calls rather than on mail.

5. Promo offer:- If you are into hand registered game than keep a keen eye on promo offers offered by various registrar. If you can grab promo offers for .com at $3-4 range than its always a winning game.

6. Expireddomains.net:- Thousands of domains expire on daily basis and you can find lots of decent domains in daily drop list which can easily be sold in xxx range via outbound.

Last but not the least , there is a very thin line between marketing and spamming and majority of newbies dont understand the difference. Outbound is great to have regular sales and to keep the cash register rolling but most of the time we end up doing spamming. Even though i am into outbound but i am strictly against spamming.
 
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Marketplace:- If your domain is registered with Godaddy than you can ask the client to directly purchase from there or via landing pages like undeveloped.com. It works very well as these marketplace have high trust factor among the general public.

I would add that I have effectively used the Namecheap Marketplace in a similar way. Agree that GoDaddy is much better known, although Namecheap is apparently now the second largest retail registrar in the world and have been in business for 16 years. When selling especially lowish value domain names I find that end users like to be able to buy it through a marketplace that they trust, especially one that also offers price competitive hosting, so they can within a few hours after buying my domain name be up and running with their new website if they want to.
 
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I would add that I have effectively used the Namecheap Marketplace in a similar way. Agree that GoDaddy is much better known, although Namecheap is apparently now the second largest retail registrar in the world and have been in business for 16 years. When selling especially lowish value domain names I find that end users like to be able to buy it through a marketplace that they trust, especially one that also offers price competitive hosting, so they can within a few hours after buying my domain name be up and running with their new website if they want to.

Agreed ... My simple point was that using popular marketplace is helpful in closing the deal... It can be godaddy , afternic , sedo or anything elseelse...
 
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This is a great thread with lots of useful info for people starting with outbound! I think it should be sticked somewhere here for future reference.

Great work @rohitgoyal , thank you for sharing!
 
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This is a great thread with lots of useful info for people starting with outbound! I think it should be sticked somewhere here for future reference.

Great work @rohitgoyal , thank you for sharing!

Thanks hope it was helpful... would soon be publishing couple of more posts related to outbound soon...
 
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Thanks hope it was helpful... would soon be publishing couple of more posts related to outbound soon...

Helpful indeed, not just the main post but the concise replies to people's questions.

Keep up the good work!
 
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Thank you Rohit for the information shared.

I would like to know if this mode of selling is viable if you consider the time & effort required to close a sale.

In addition your outbound method of selling would mostly work in countries which benefit from currency exchange value and where labour is cheap.

For example, In developed countries it would not be financially possible to hire a team of 4-5 execs and sell domains in the 200-499 range unless the sale numbers are huge. The working costs would overshadow the profits. And without the team it just too much of work for a single person.
 
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Helpful indeed, not just the main post but the concise replies to people's questions.

Keep up the good work!

Thank you... that's so kind of you... It is important to respond to people's question or else what's the use of starting a thread.
 
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Thank you Rohit for the information shared.

I would like to know if this mode of selling is viable if you consider the time & effort required to close a sale.

In addition your outbound method of selling would mostly work in countries which benefit from currency exchange value and where labour is cheap.

For example, In developed countries it would not be financially possible to hire a team of 4-5 execs and sell domains in the 200-499 range unless the sale numbers are huge. The working costs would overshadow the profits. And without the team it just too much of work for a single person.

I would share 3 points before answering your question.

1. There is only one rule in domaining that there are no rules. There can be 100 different methods of being successful in donaining and I have just shared one of them.. now it's individual call which method suits them or which one is viable for them.
2. Domaining is not a get rich scheme. There is no alternative for hard work, be it inbound or outbound. Couple of my friends are very successful with inbound but they have spend years researching on right kind of domains.
3. As I have initially mentioned this guide is for beginners who wishes to get started with initial sale. Someone maybe happy with $1000 per month revenue while other may require $10,000 per month.

Now back to your question. Yes lots of time and effort is required for outbound and that's the reason hardly .01% of domainers are into outbound.
Secondly I just gave an example of hand registered domains which can be sold for $200-499 range. You can.pick up better names from auctions and sale them for xxxx or xxxxx.
Thirdly I personally prefer to have $500 cash in my pocket right now rather than imagining to have $5000 virtual money over the years.now
Fourth yes it's convenient for people leaving in countries with cheap labour to do outbound however people living in US or UK have their own advantage as they can close the deals faster due to trust factor and being aware about local market.
 
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No it is not mandatory to wait for 60 days transfer lock but it's always recommend to start outbound after transfer lock is over or else you may risk of loosing potential client.
Is it also professional and reasonable to indicate in the mail that you will contacting other potential or interested parties.
 
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Is it also professional and reasonable to indicate in the mail that you will contacting other potential or interested parties.

Yes you can. It helps in closing the deal faster however I normally use that when buyer made a price enquiry and than not responding to the mails...
 
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When the target price is low to mid XXX I always include the price and I always include that the price is negotiable. You may leave a little on the table but most potential buyers won't even respond if there is no price because they think you are just another domain squatter asking $50,000 for a $500 domain.

Include a reasonable price and watch your sales increase.

Hi,

I am experimenting with your idea of including price in the first mail itself. We are experimenting with 30 domains right now and would update the outcome which should be there in my hand by friday.
 
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Hi,

I am experimenting with your idea of including price in the first mail itself. We are experimenting with 30 domains right now and would update the outcome which should be there in my hand by friday.
Very interested to see the outcome based on 30 domains. I think you will get a better first response rate.
 
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Very interested to see the outcome based on 30 domains. I think you will get a better first response rate.

Let's see... started sending mails from today... today we sent mails for 10 domains with price...
I am hoping that by Friday will get proper picture...
 
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Very interested to see the outcome based on 30 domains. I think you will get a better first response rate.

Today is the first day and mails were sent for 10 domains. I haven't received single response yet..
 
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Superbe post Rohit bhai, detailed and concise.

Keep up the Great Work and May The Power be with you !!!
 
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Hey,

Hahaha today morning I accidentally post my response to you accidentally in other outbound post thinking it was by you.
@TERADOMAIN Wheres that thread you accidently posted? It was quite good but I cant find it anymore.
 
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@rohitgoyal Share your results regardless
Hi all,

If we focus on low valued domains, like 3 words GEO and 3 words low valued EMD domains, what are your experiences with the price in first email or when you send emails without the price in first email when you do outbound marketing?
Does the domain value also affect if you will include the price or not?
Do you have any statistics in which way do you sell more domains and how to achieve a higher price?

My experience with including the price:
1. The domains are selling quick and for higher price (2 emails and transfer and payment are finished or just first email when they buy the domain at marketplace- I included it in template)
2. The response ratio is smaller

The way when I don´t include the price in first email I am still testing and so far what I can see is that:

1. I receive much more responses.
2. Obviously is the best to tell the price in next email.
3. A lot buyers give up when you tell them the price (they probably want a domain for max $100 or $50)
4. I think it´s good that you know that you have potential buyer when they ask you for the price and you can try with a bit higher price (example you tell the buyer that the price is $350 and if they don´t respond for few days you send them reduced price $250 or $199 etc.)
5. Usually I sell the domain when I reduce the price
6. In other way I´m waiting to finish the higher sell for now - $700
7. Selling is slow ending, so there is a possibility that the end user will eventually give up.

From this I can conclude that it is more profitable when I include the price in first email. But I also like far more respones when I don´t include the price. If I could get more sales from these respones the way when I don´t include the price would be much more profitable.

Please share your experiences and opinions.

Thanks!
https://www.namepros.com/threads/outbound-marketing-with-and-without-the-price.1099260/
 
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