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1. - Like Barack Obama? "We're 5 days away from fundamentally transforming America"

2. - Shredding the Constitution: Obama’s attack on the media,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-the-associated-press/?utm_term=.356014a00712

3. - Evey politician

4. - Every politician

5. - Every liberal on the news attacking Kavanaugh right now.

6. - Because no one is criticizing Trump.

Believe me, you are not thinking clearly. let's say that I am a republican by conviction, I do not like the left because I've lived on that side ( and is not good )

I can not look away because this is my experience and Obama is not even close of what Trump has done or said.

I do not see a problem with the liberals here, I think it's deeper
 
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Believe me, you are not thinking clearly. let's say that I am a republican by conviction, I do not like the left because I've lived on that side ( and is not good )

I can not look away because this is my experience and Obama is not even close of what Trump has done or said.

Trump has a loyal base of support but he's not popular in his own party. I guess you didn't notice the House refused to add funding for the border wall to the 2019 budget?

Trump was my second to last choice for President of the United States. He's boorish but his policies are good.

I think you should be much more afraid of someone like Obama who has the support of the establishment media, new media and the bureaucracy.

** Obama also has a marxist past. The closet Trump got to communism was voting for Clinton.
 
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Trump has a loyal base of support but he's not popular in his own party. I guess you didn't notice the House refused to add funding for the border wall to the 2019 budget?

Trump was my second to last choice for President of the United States. He's boorish but his policies are good.

I think you should be much more afraid of someone like Obama who has the support of the establishment media, new media and the bureaucracy.

** There are democrats who post pictures of Obama like the Cubans post pictures of Castro. Obama also has a marxist past. The closet Trump got to communism was voting for Clinton.


Respectfully, do you think you can better recognize than me a potential dictator

I lived in a left dictatorship since I was born until I was 20 years old. The American people do not, thank God. otherwise I would not be here today
 
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Respectfully, do you think you can better recognize than me a potential dictator

I lived in a left dictatorship since I was born until I was 20 years old. The American people do not, thank God. otherwise I would not be here today

I think I understand our Government, the constitution and politics better than you. We have something Cuba never had, the #1A & #2A, a bill of rights and 60 million semi-automatic weapons owned by civilians.
 
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Respectfully, do you think you can better recognize than me a potential dictator

I lived in a left dictatorship since I was born until I was 20 years old. The American people do not, thank God. otherwise I would not be here today

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama both complained they could not run for another term as President of the United States. I expect Donald Trump will complain about it too.

** Edit - If you're truly worried about a dictator, buy a gun, get a concealed carry permit and make friends at the shooting range.
 
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I think I understand our Government, the constitution and politics better than you. We have something Cuba never had, the #1A & #2A, a bill of rights and 60 million semi-automatic weapons owned by civilians.

You understand what I say wrong, I'm not saying that Trump becomes a dictator, I'm saying that everything I'm seeing today is closer than ever to the actions of a dictator (left )

You think what trump does with the economy, tariffs for all sides, try to force the companies that assume losses, try to force them to produce where the government wants have anything to do with right-wing government?

The answer is no, that is not a real right goverment or capitalism - the government produces nothing, now look at the definitions of right and left what kind of government does these things ( Left government )
 
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You understand what I say wrong, I'm not saying that Trump becomes a dictator, I'm saying that everything I'm seeing today is closer than ever to the actions of a dictator (left )

You think what trump does with the economy, tariffs for all sides, try to force the companies that assume losses, try to force them to produce where the government wants have anything to do with right-wing government?

The answer is no, that is not a real right goverment or capitalism - the government produces nothing, now look at the definitions of right and left what kind of government does these things ( Left government )

I understand now and you're correct. Historically, it was much worse in the USA in the 30's - 40's, until World War II ended. Republicans took over then though :)
 
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Trump is unAmerican and does not share nor stand for American values.
In fact he would have been equally happy running Cuba, like the despot apprentice that he is.
One feature that all despots share is that they don't care for the truth and lie all the time. They rewrite facts and reality.
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
 
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I understand now and you're correct. Historically, it was much worse in the USA in the 30's - 40's, until World War II ended. Republicans took over then though :)

Go to the facts.

With defects and virtues this country is the best of all ( I also say it with experience, I have lived in at least 5 countries for a short period of 9 months or more ) has been the engine of the world, so all those defects and virtues made the United States today, but suddenly we're going to pull down the middle of the house, for real.

We could not have negotiated each treaty instead of suspending it ?

The world is learning to move forward without US, that is a big fact. and is bad for us.
 
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Go to the facts.

With defects and virtues this country is the best of all ( I also say it with experience, I have lived in at least 5 countries for a short period of 9 months or more ) has been the engine of the world, so all those defects and virtues made the United States today, but suddenly we're going to pull down the middle of the house, for real.

We could not have negotiated each treaty instead of suspending it ?

The world is learning to move forward without US, that is a big fact. and is bad for us.

I think you're over reacting.
 
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Democrats are a much more dictatorial, controlling. The marxist / socialist wing of the party seems to be growing.

Trump's more about free markets, policies. There wasn't a treaty with Iran. Only congress can approve treaties. Obama ignored the constitution, Trump had the legal right to end the agreement Obama signed illegally.

As for trade, yeah he's shaking things up. Doesn't make him a dictator.
 
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1 - They changed the system from the inside out.

2 - Attack on the press

3 - Do what I say, but not what I do

4 - The victories are mine, the defeats of those who do not support me

5 - They decided who deserved respect and when not

6 - They could do or say whatever they wanted, people will continue to support him. (

Lies constantly, supporters give him a pass.
Divisive. Attacks any person or group who disagrees with him.
Attacks the free press
Attacks any person or group who could hold him responsible.
Trying to fill Justice / law enforcements with “loyalists”
Doesn’t respect rule of law (for himself))
= wannabe dictator.

In the 30's and 40's the US was initially recovering from the Great Depression, caused largely by speculation and excessive buying on margin during the rising economy of the 20's.
Roosevelt implemented programs directly intended to help those suffering the most from aftermath of the great depression by creating jobs and programs to help the unemployed, poor, elderly and disabled. And veterans.Those programs kept people and families from starving. And legislation to prevent the crash from happening again, including creation of the SEC and FDIC.

My parents were kids during the Great Depression - I heard stories growing up. It was bad, families struggled hard to make ends meet. But the Great Depression happened on Hoover's watch, Roosevelt just cleaned it up.

Did you know that in the early 30's Hoover refused veterans payment of bonus money which was earned in the mid 20's? Veterans protested and marched, many stayed in tent encampments. Hoover sent McArthur with tear gas and tanks to burn them out. Hoover was no prize.

Then we spent the late 30's and early 40's fighting to remove dictators in other countries.
 
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.. emotions.
= wannabe dictator.

In the 30's and 40's the US was initially recovering from the Great Depression, caused largely by speculation and excessive buying on margin during the rising economy of the 20's.
Roosevelt implemented programs directly intended to help those suffering the most from aftermath of the great depression by creating jobs and programs to help the unemployed, poor, elderly and disabled. And veterans.Those programs kept people and families from starving. And legislation to prevent the crash from happening again, including creation of the SEC and FDIC.

My parents were depression babies - I heard stories growing up. It was bad. But the Great Depression happened on Hoover's watch, Roosevelt just cleaned it up.

Did you know that in the early 30's Hoover refused veterans payment of bonus money which was earned in the mid 20's? Veterans protested and marched, many stayed in tent encampments. Hoover sent McArthur with tear gas and tanks to burn them out. Hoover was no prize.

Then we spent the late 30's and early 40's fighting to remove dictators in other countries.

FDR put the Japanese in concentration camps and his socialist policies prolonged the depression.

The Second World War ended the depression and military returning from EU with back-pay and GI benefits lifted the economy, starting the baby-boom.

P.S. Truman, another democrat, dropped two Atomic bombs on civilian cities instead of military bases.
 
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‘Proud to stand with Brett’! Video of Kavanaugh’s female colleagues and friends spells TROUBLE for Left’s smear campaign


That's a lot of women !!

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Let me explain it like your a 12 year old.

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Pay attention....

Dow Jumped 170 Points in last 20 minutes of the day session, then pulled back to 160.
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DJIA Shot up 170+ points in the 20 minutes.



BTW, currently over 4% GDP, with ALL TIME highs for he DJIA and the S&P 500.

I think a 12 year old would grasp this better than you. What is wrong with you? Are you really that stupid? You again linked to an article saying the DOW closed at a record high. No it did not. We went over this many times already. Seriously, what is wrong with your brain?

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Then you quote me and then don't even respond to what I was asking.

Again, I asked you what were you thinking when you felt the need to put the word "white" in front of Republican. Your response:

"Apparently, you have a hard time paying attention. Maybe you should stick to posting dramatic #resistance stories instead of arguing."

Where in that did you answer the question? Were you hanging out on some White Pride/Nationalist site, getting hyped up, came over here to let everybody know you were white? What? It's a simple question.

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Then I asked you another simple question:

"Will you apologize if it turns out she was telling the truth?"

You didn't answer it. You went on and on trying to make a case. Again, simple questions, that you seem to continually struggle with. What if it turns out she's been telling the thru, while you've been slandering her all this time. Will you apologize? These are really yes or no questions, I really try to keep this stuff as simple as possible for you.
 
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Trump fans are slow today:

Rosenstein Suggested He Secretly Record Trump and Discussed 25th Amendment
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...iscussed-25th-amendment/ar-AAAsxKJ?li=BBnb7Kz

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Trump, clueless as ever:

I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!

Some responses:

I was raped when I was six years old. Repeatedly. I don't remember dates or times because I repressed it. When I remembered at 16 I told my 'loving parents' after months of working up the courage to do so. They justified his actions and said boys will be boys. 1/2

No therapy was ever offered. I'm only now seeking it as an adult. No police were ever involved. It takes courage to speak up, moreso when you've spent years in fearful silence. And forgetting details is a normal response to trauma - any victim can tell you. Stop victim blaming.

Is it really that hard to understand this type of stuff? It's like Republicans are knuckle draggers.

His backwardness spurred this:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/WhyIDidntReport?src=tren&lang=en
 
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FDR put the Japanese in concentration camps
So now we just take immigrant brown kids from their parents (and lose track of who belongs to who) and plan to house a massively increasing number of them in detention centers.

his socialist policies prolonged the depression.
Opinion. They were humanitarian measures that saved lives.

I wouldn't put it past 45 to drop a nuke on someone.
 
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This country deserves something better.
FDR put the Japanese in concentration camps and his socialist policies prolonged the depression.

The Second World War ended the depression and military returning from EU with back-pay and GI benefits lifted the economy, starting the baby-boom.

P.S. Truman, another democrat, dropped two Atomic bombs on civilian cities instead of military bases.

This conversation is not going anywhere, let's do something I am always changing my way of seeing things, but ... beware ... always from logical reasoning, so let's go step by step. let's start with this statement :

Trump : I could shoot somebody and not lose voters.

Please can you answer me -

What this means for you ?

In what position does it place you?
 
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Is it really that hard to understand this type of stuff? I
I know someone who's a therapist - among other things, she works with sex offenders.
She commented the other day that its sad that her clients have a better understanding of the impact of their actions on the victim than the general public.

This is all getting a lot of publicity. I wonder if the folks who are minimizing it ("just boys being boys") are thinking about what message they're sending to their sons ... and their daughters.
 
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But the Great Depression happened on Hoover's watch, Roosevelt just cleaned it up.

Sad that they teach this rubbish still. Hoover was one of the most brilliant men to become president. Read about him. People then, as now, blame the economy on the sitting president, for no particular reason other than they don't understand macroeconomics and the president is a convenient target.

Roosevelt, was a less intelligent man with strong dictatorial leanings, far beyond anything Trump has even suggested - including concentration camps, price controls and the prosecution of innocent immigrants. He took an ordinary depression and made it a great depression. Much like what we will see soon in the US.
 
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So now we just take immigrant brown kids from their parents (and lose track of who belongs to who) and plan to house a massively increasing number of them in detention centers.

You compare this to taking actual US citizens, seizing all of their family assets and businesses and throwing them into a prison camp from which they cannot leave with what Trump is doing? That's not even apples and oranges - more like apples and bicycles.
 
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People then, as now, blame the economy on the sitting president,

I didn’t blame him, I said it happened on his watch. Different thing.
Yes, people do blame ...or credit ...the sitting president for the economy although initially they inherit it from their predecessor,
 
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You compare this to taking actual US citizens, seizing all of their family assets and businesses and throwing them into a prison camp from which they cannot leave with what Trump is doing? That's not even apples and oranges - more like apples and bicycles.

Does it really make it “worse” if they’re citizens or not? They’re both mistreatment of human beings and both wrong.

Taking those kids from their parents and on top of that failing to have plans or adequate records to reunite them was an atrocity. Those people came here seeking a better life, we take their kids.

Both situations came about from the same place - fear. Irrational fear that a broadly categorized group of people are such a threat that we need to lock them up, keep them out of our country,
 
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Ted Cruz vs. Beto O'Rourke is an interesting race.

Right now Cruz up 4.5 in polling - https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/tx/texas_senate_cruz_vs_orourke-6310.html

but Beto is making moves.

And it seems like Beto is getting the best of him during tonight's debate - https://twitter.com/hashtag/TXSenateDebate?src=tren&lang=en

I would love to see Cruz go down this Nov. Really slimy dude.

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Right now, Real Clear Politics polling:

Battle for the House 2018
Dems - 206
Rethugs - 189
Toss Up - 40

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/house/2018_elections_house_map.html

Battle for the Senate 2018
Dems - 44
Rethugs - 47
Toss Up - 9

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/2018_elections_senate_map.html
 
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