STOP holding domains hostage

robert widener · Aug 22, 2018

most registries work with domain agents , a company that holds domains hostage for 199 $ or more . you look up a domain & see its available , you want to think about it , come back 10 minutes later to reg it & da wants 199 $ for it . da & the registry split the profits . VERY UNETHICAL & GREEDY

kam · Aug 22, 2018

robert widener said:
most registries work with domain agents , a company that holds domains hostage for 199 $ or more . you look up a domain & see its available , you want to think about it , come back 10 minutes later to reg it & da wants 199 $ for it . da & the registry split the profits . VERY UNETHICAL & GREEDY

You should always use official whois server to check domain availability.

NYJimbo · Aug 22, 2018

robert widener said:
most registries work with domain agents , a company that holds domains hostage for 199 $ or more . you look up a domain & see its available , you want to think about it , come back 10 minutes later to reg it & da wants 199 $ for it . da & the registry split the profits . VERY UNETHICAL & GREEDY

Never seen this before. Any proof ?

robert widener · Aug 23, 2018

notice how no registry reps will respond to this ? i'd love to hear from them .

alcy · Aug 23, 2018

robert widener said:
notice how no registry reps will respond to this ? i'd love to hear from them .

im pretty sure their reasons not to respond are different

robert widener · Aug 23, 2018

lol , which registry do you work for ?

urlurl · Aug 23, 2018

i dont think its the registries that are doing it - i think its spies and/or bots. i most cases if you dont respond or buy, it will be available to reg a few days later. happened to me once.

Ategy · Aug 23, 2018

This is a regular accusation. The solution is simple .. register the domain at another registrar .. or don't buy anything from that registry if you think it's at that level.

One important thing to note is that prices do change sometimes because of database connection errors. Meaning that a premium domain will show at regular price if the registrar is having issues connecting to the registry pricelist database. This has happened to me in the past (before I was actually "domaining"). It's an unfortunate fact that this happens MUCH more often than it should.

Finally .. do not take offence .. but your accusations are pretty meaningless unless you share the specifics. If you want to generate awareness to actually get some pressure to make things better then you need to be constructive and post facts. Just posting baseless accusations is done every single day in the domain industry .. and you'll find most domainers at this point more annoyed by empty accusations like yours than by anything else.

What is the domain? (at the very least post the TLD, although I'd want to know the specific domain before assuming any potential wrongdoing)
What is the registry you tried to buy the domain at?
When exactly did the two searches take place?

robert widener · Aug 24, 2018

not 1 registry rep came on to defend their company ? enough said

robert widener · Aug 24, 2018

Ategy.com said:
This is a regular accusation. The solution is simple .. register the domain at another registrar .. or don't buy anything from that registry if you think it's at that level.

One important thing to note is that prices do change sometimes because of database connection errors. Meaning that a premium domain will show at regular price if the registrar is having issues connecting to the registry pricelist database. This has happened to me in the past (before I was actually "domaining"). It's an unfortunate fact that this happens MUCH more often than it should.

Finally .. do not take offence .. but your accusations are pretty meaningless unless you share the specifics. If you want to generate awareness to actually get some pressure to make things better then you need to be constructive and post facts. Just posting baseless accusations is done every single day in the domain industry .. and you'll find most domainers at this point more annoyed by empty accusations like yours than by anything else.

What is the domain? (at the very least post the TLD, although I'd want to know the specific domain before assuming any potential wrongdoing)
What is the registry you tried to buy the domain at?
When exactly did the two searches take place?

lol ,

e-mail me i have a bridge in brooklyn i'd like to sell ya ... & guess what ? it costs 199$

creataweb · Aug 24, 2018

Do you mean registrars?

@namesilo @Dynadot @NetworkSolutions @Epik.com @Joe Styler @name.com @namecheap @DotsterInc

robert widener · Aug 24, 2018

creataweb said:
Do you mean registrars?

@namesilo @Dynadot @NetworkSolutions @Epik.com @Joe Styler @name.com @namecheap @DotsterInc

yes

alexatopper · Aug 24, 2018

robert widener said:
most registries work with domain agents , a company that holds domains hostage for 199 $ or more . you look up a domain & see its available , you want to think about it , come back 10 minutes later to reg it & da wants 199 $ for it . da & the registry split the profits . VERY UNETHICAL & GREEDY

Happened to me one time with Godaddy

golan · Aug 24, 2018

robert widener said:
you look up a domain & see its available , you want to think about it , come back 10 minutes later to reg it & da wants 199 $ for it

kam said:
You should always use official whois server to check domain availability.

@robert widener i remember clearly you have already got this same advise in some other thread. But you keep going around and whining. Maybe try to find another hobby, domaining seems to be very difficult for you... Good luck

frostify · Aug 24, 2018

Some registrys can register a domain name for up to 3 days I believe (for free) and then they can essentially "refund themselves" after 3 days and release the domain name. It might be worth it to check back on your hostage domain in a few days and it might be freed up but otherwise I'd recommend using a whois service to perform lookup requests. I personally use Whois.com and Whois.net. You can also search for domains somewhere more reputable such as GoDaddy, NameCheap, or NameSilo (all ones I've had success with).

Windoms · Aug 24, 2018

Sometimes there's problems with price updates. It shows the sale price for example 29$, then it updates the system and you get the normal price like 200 - 300$ for some extensions.
Maybe you were not dealing with .coms

robert widener · Aug 24, 2018

golan said:
@robert widener i remember clearly you have already got this same advise in some other thread. But you keep going around and whining. Maybe try to find another hobby, domaining seems to be very difficult for you... Good luck

let me guess , u work for domain agents or a registrar that works with them ? the practice should be stopped

plain & simple

Joe Styler · Aug 24, 2018

alexatopper said:
Happened to me one time with Godaddy

We do not share any data with other companies or do anything in any way remotely related in any way to what is being stated on this thread. If you look up a name to buy we don't buy it or tell anyone else to buy it period. That is quite an accusation.

robert widener · Aug 28, 2018

Joe Styler said:
We do not share any data with other companies or do anything in any way remotely related in any way to what is being stated on this thread. If you look up a name to buy we don't buy it or tell anyone else to buy it period. That is quite an accusation.

google "godaddy buying searched domains "

lots of interesting stuff to read . why dont registrars JUST ADMIT IT & be done with it already .

robert widener · Aug 28, 2018

Joe Styler said:
We do not share any data with other companies or do anything in any way remotely related in any way to what is being stated on this thread. If you look up a name to buy we don't buy it or tell anyone else to buy it period. That is quite an accusation.

lol

i wouldnt put anything past godaddy or any other registrar .

robert widener · Aug 28, 2018

i once met a chic in a bar in iowa city ( home of the hawkeyes ) who worked at a registrar & she said that the industry standard when confronted about domain frontrunning was to DENY DENY DENY

urlurl · Aug 28, 2018

its not the registers that do this - its a program bot or spyware watching what you search and reg it - they list it for cheap in hopes you buy it from them, if you dont they just get a refund on the name.

Foggy · Aug 28, 2018

robert widener said:
i once met a chic in a bar in iowa city ( home of the hawkeyes ) who worked at a registrar & she said that the industry standard when confronted about domain frontrunning was to DENY DENY DENY

That’s some pretty heady stuff there. How high up was she in the Iowa City’s domain industry nexus? Did you even get her business card? All pretty absurd.

robert widener · Aug 28, 2018

Foggy said:
That’s some pretty heady stuff there. How how up was she in the Iowa City’s domain industry nexus? Did you even get her business card? All pretty absurd.

she was visiting her daughter , a student at u of i .

robert widener · Aug 28, 2018

in defense of registrar reps , if you repeat something long enough your bound to start believing it yourself

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