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Hello guys,

I may end up being kicked from this forum unfortunately... I saw got a notification for a new free domain in the free domains section (Preinvasive.com from the NamePros user internext) so I clicked the email and went to the page and I typed "Clajm" (I typed it so fast I made a typo. I later fixed the typo and typed "Claim"). Then I realized that this domain may not actually be free after all since there was talk about Transferring and stuff where as the domains I have seen in the Free Domains section have been free and you could get them for free with a Push. I message the OP asking if there are any fees and they say there will be fees. I then let the OP know that I can't take the domain (I literally can't with the fees, I'm not being a hard, tough guy). The OP then gets mad at me Claiming the domain in the first place, so I tried to explain that I thought it was free (I'm rather new here, and I am still discovering things on this forum when I come on). Then the OP starts telling me stuff like I should read, and stop making excuses, and stuff like that. Then they decided to escalate by getting Moderators Amanda and Eric Lyon involved. Guys I literally *cannot* get the domain with the fee whether it's $8 or $80 (I was in the Free domains section for a reason). It looks like the mods may kick me from forum since Eric Lyon is talking about me having to now take the domain, and how internext 's original post was very clear. So yeah guys, that's where we are at this point. Yeah, maybe I should of read the post and next time I will make sure I do. I just don't feel this needs to be blown up and escalated like it has been. If I disappear this is most likely why and I wanted my story to be known for other NamePros users. I'm not saying I didn't make a mistake, but I do feel that there also needs to be some kind of code of conduct, or acceptable behavior on this Forum. internext is calling me names, talking in all caps and resorting to that kind of behavior. He's also now left me negative feedback. There should also be some kind of lenience or new users who are going to inevitably make mistakes just like we all do when we learn how to do things. Anyway, I don't really want to dwell on that here. I learned a lot on this forum from you all and if this is my last post on here, thanks for the memories :xf.smile:. If anyone could help me too that would be great and very much appreciated! (Edit Note: I do not mean with money)

Domaineer1
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oops sorry my bad above..

it appears there may be 2 distinct things going on on gd....

1- ability to push expired domain
2- redemption fee

which are not necessarily related.

so I believe on gd, one cannot push domain after it leaves your control panel.. around day -10... without renewing first (which I guess would be an option for domaineer to ask of owner.. if he wills it.. for domaineer to pay for renewal.. then get the push)... but thats entirely up to owner.. as it was not part of sale terms..

and then, there is the redemption fee.. which I think kicks in around day -30.

sorry for confusion. I got the two concepts mixed up. but they do not need to be related.. though they could be on some registrars.
 
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I can see things are getting tangled up. I will release everything. Here's it comes.

Before I do here is the description of the Free Domains section "100% Free domains from our generous members. No strings attached. "For it is in giving that we receive." Watch this section for the best chance to get a free domain."

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Original Post:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/preinvasive-com-exp-at-godaddy-must-transfer-out.1090590/
Title:
Preinvasive.com EXP at GoDaddy. Must transfer out
internext:
Preinvasive.com
medical Definition of preinvasive. : not yet having become invasive —used of malignant cells or lesions remaining in their original focus.

Expired at GoDaddy.

Must transfer out

Does anybody want it?

Must initiate the transfer in a timely manner or I reserve the right to give to someone else

Domaineer1:
Claim

Domaineer1:
Are there any fees or anything? Can you use Google Daddy push?

internext:
No, GoDaddy push is not possible, unless you want to pay an $80 redemption fee

internext said:
Must transfer out

You have to initiate a transfer at your registrar of choice. This will cost you (and provide you) a year of renewal. When you are ready to pay for the transfer let me know an I will give you the transfer code

mitch007:
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Domaineer1:
Oh sorry, I can't take the domain. Good luck to you though!

Domaineer1:
mitch007 said:
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Bonjour

internext:
Domaineer1 said:
Oh sorry, I can't take the domain.
Then why did you CLAIM the domain?

I was clear, MUST TRANSFER OUT. Then you claim and ask to push. You think I didn't think of that? I cant push because of the $80 fee. This Fee does NOT apply to you if you follow the terms of my post which you claimed.

Domaineer1:
Take it easy buddy, no need to get all hyped up :). I said I can't take the domain with those fees , I just can't. If I could maybe but I can't so I don't know what to tell you. Good luck to you though, hopefully someone else will see value and be interested :). Good day :)

internext:
Domaineer1 said:
I can't take the domain with those fees
There are no fees. UNLESS you push it.
I said YOU MUST TRANSFER. YOU said CLAIM.
Im not your buddy and Im not hyped up. Im pissed at immature time wasters

Domaineer1:
Claim down man, everythings fine. No need for the CAPS :xf.smile:. Anyway all this talk is not worth it and now I guess we're both "time wasters" since I already said I can't take the domain you listed in the free domains section if there will be any fees or cost involved with me acquiring the name from you. You would be better off looking for another taker, and these messages really are not going to attract another user to want the domain. Take care pal:xf.smile:

Domaineer1:
Lol and you send me this too in DM? "CAN YOU READ??? Seriously

THE $80 fee is ONLY if YOU want me to push it to you.

The reason I said we MUST TRANSFER NAME OUT is to get out of GoDaddy so there will be no fee!!!!

Stop being ignorant. Ive explained this what? 4 times now? I even gave you an example. Transfer to NameSilo is only $8.39 and renews the name another year too. Stop making excuses
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Wow that escalated quickly... take care buddy :):xf.wink::xf.cool:

internext:
Domaineer1 said:
CAN YOU READ??? Seriously

THE $80 fee is ONLY if YOU want me to push it to you.
which was a reply to your message that you cant take the name due to $80 fee. Which I explained repeatedly to you does not apply if you transfer out.

Domaineer1 said:
Hey, take it easy buddy I'm new here. How was I supposed to know that there was going to be a $80 fee? Anyway, I kindly let you know that I cannot take the domain with those fees. Nothing personal, just let it drop it you don't want it. Don't Make excuses. Have a nice day

Domaineer1:
I actually said I can't take the domain with "those" fees... as a great man once said "Which I explained repeatedly to you". Anyway still no need to get all worked up giving me negative reviews and calling Amanda and all that. As I already said I thought the domain would be 100% free in the Free Domains section. Regardless, I definitely can't take the domain off your hands now after the way you have acted. Just grab a cold one (or two) and try it again pal, it's not too hard :). Cheers! :xf.cool:

P.S: no need to call me names or insault me or anything else it's a waste of time and pretty immature for a NamePros VIP.

internext:
Hopefully, lessons learned

learn patience
read and follow directions

Domaineer1:
Domaineer1 said:
As I already said I thought the domain would be 100% free
What are you? ENTITLED to what you THINK?? You won't last long here. If you are able to read, you will see all relevant points are disclosed. Its expired and it needs to be transferred out of GoDaddy. You rush in and claim the name and only THEN do you ASK if I can PUSH it to you. Not the brightest bulb in the box. But I tried to help you understand and I don't think you still do!!!! The name is and was free. The fact you have to transfer it was in the title AND the body of the post.


And somewhere a snowflake melted...

[Direct Messages with internext]
Title: Preinvasive.com EXP at GoDaddy. Must transfer out

internext:
Domain Name: preinvasive.com
Authorization Code: C1$3(27N^+Y0MCC8

Please transfer soon. Let me know when initiated so I can watch and approve it

Thanks
Eric

Domaineer1:
Hello Eric,

Is it all free? No fees?

Thanks,
Domaineer1

Domaineer1:
Sorry I can't with the GoDaddy fees. Good luck! :)

internext:
there are no GoDaddy fees. I told you that's why I cant PUSH like you asked AFTER you claimed

My ad is that you MUST TRANSFER OUT. This is what you agreed to by claiming...which is just the cost of renewal. NO godaddy fees

If you claim and do not take, you wasted my free listing. I only am allowed one per 24 hours.

internext:
Are you unwilling to complete this CLAIM that you made?
It's not my fault you didn't read terms. Terms were CLEAR... MUST TRANSFER OUT which only costs $8.39 at NameSilo (as an example). No GoDaddy fees. Don't make excuses

Domaineer1:
Hey, take it easy buddy I'm new here. How was I supposed to know that there was going to be a $80 fee? Anyway, I kindly let you know that I cannot take the domain with those fees. Nothing personal, just let it drop it you don't want it. Don't Make excuses. Have a nice day :)

internext:
CAN YOU READ??? Seriously

THE $80 fee is ONLY if YOU want me to push it to you.

The reason I said we MUST TRANSFER NAME OUT is to get out of GoDaddy so there will be no fee!!!!

Stop being ignorant. Ive explained this what? 4 times now? I even gave you an example. Transfer to NameSilo is only $8.39 and renews the name another year too. Stop making excuses

internext:
Added Amanda so she can see more fully

Domaineer1:
Perfect, She needs to be able to see all the messages including the first all the way to the last. :)

Domaineer1:
Hello internext,

Alright, I do have something to say but first a few words from Americas Finest:

"What are you? ENTITLED to what you THINK?? You won't last long here. If you are able to read, you will see all relevant points are disclosed. Its expired and it needs to be transferred out of GoDaddy. You rush in and claim the name and only THEN do you ASK if I can PUSH it to you. Not the brightest bulb in the box. But I tried to help you understand and I don't think you still do!!!! The name is and was free. The fact you have to transfer it was in the title AND the body of the post.


And somewhere a snowflake melted..."

Now that you are done raging like a little kid playing MineCraft on XBox Live the bottom line still stands: I'm not taking the domain. All chances you had of that are gone, and now instead of actually finding someone who wanted it you cried for days and now the original thread you could of sent the domain to someone else with is not open to further replies.. You won't last long if you blow a gasket the moment something doesn't go your way. Welcome to the real world buddy. Anyway, acting a fool never ever gets you want you want in the end and in the end you wanted me to take the domain. I have not, and now will definitely not do so. Hopefully (for your sake) you learn how to sell and how to talk with someone who you are trying to close a deal with. If you do not there will only be more deals or the rest of us ;). You can give a man money, but that doesn't change the fact that they don't know how to use it or interact with a customer or prospect to close a deal. It's a shame you proven that you do not know how to sell or convince. You could of said (Sorry for the confusion, but I meant that the fee will only apply if you transfer within GoDaddy, but you can always transfer out for only about $8). Those skills are especially important considering most people don't even know about domains.. Now I already said that I can't take the domain with fees so I wouldn't be able to take it anyway, but at least you could of maybe got someone else to take the domain rather than fighting and chasing someone (me or whoever else this has happened to in the past) for days who's not interested in you. I'm sure this isn't your first time doing that though so I guess this kind of behavior is normal to you. Anyway, since you wrote me a real zinger and now the thread is closed, I thought you deserved a cookie since what you did was really NamePros VIP and maybe even Presidential material :xf.wink:. A cookie to you! Don't eat it all at one time though :xf.wink:. Really savor it cause pal you really earned it! You get a thumbs up from me (y)! I guess I should thank you though since you did entertain me.. :smuggrin:. So in the end hopefully you learned to

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learn patience
read
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Good bye, good day, and good riddance! :ROFL::xf.smile::xf.grin::xf.wink::xf.cool:

(y)(y)(y):ROFL::xf.wink::xf.cool:

I am done with this, no more replies needed. (y)

Your Pal, Buddy, Chum, and Favorite Chap,
Domaineer1

Eric Lyon (I don't know when, now or who added him):
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[Direct Messaging with Eric Lyon]
Title: Warning - Unethical Business Practices
Eric Lyon:
Domaineer1


Domaineer1
We have determined that you have engaged in inappropriate business practices.

Failure to honor a binding purchase agreement. Reference conversation: https://www.namepros.com/conversations/attention-needed.2886787/

This is a warning for unprofessional or unethical business practices. You may still be involved in an ongoing investigation regarding this incident.

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For a complete list of rules, please visit the Official Rules of NamePros page.

Your account's access may be limited based on these actions, and content may have been modified or deleted to comply with the rules.

If you have any questions about the rules, please reply to this message, and we'll be happy to help.


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[Direct message with Amanda, Domaineer1, and internext]
Title: Attention Needed
Amanda: @Domaineer1 & Internext

Please be aware that all posts involving a valid sold, claim, or bid must be honored.

@Domaineer1

Please honor your binding agreement and post in this thread within 24 hours to finalize this transaction.

Thank you both for your cooperation.

https://www.namepros.com/threads/preinvasive-com-exp-at-godaddy-must-transfer-out.1090590/
https://www.namepros.com/conversations/preinvasive-com-exp-at-godaddy-must-transfer-out.2886234/

internext:
@Domaineer1 thanks for your fantasy feedback, As you will soon discover, retaliatory feedback is not allowed here. (@Amanda)

As I stated here earlier, I will gladly remove your earned feedback if you do the right thing and follow the rules of this forum and honor your claim

You keep stating ad nauseam that you'd take the name if there were no fees and it was free. As explained repeatedly, the only cost to receive this free name is that you transfer it out. It doesn't matter what you "think" or "feel" those are the facts and they were clearly stated in advance

Thanks for your effort to enforce the rules. I seriously dont think @Domaineer1 is going to respond in a logical manner or follow the rules. You can see their public replies in the thread. My private messages are even worse.

Going to leave this person their deserved negative feedback. I will keep the name available until your 24 hour notice has elapsed. If they choose to do the right thing by then I will delete their feedback

Amanda:
@internext

I appreciate you waiting the 24 hours. If the transaction is not finalized in 24 hours please post in this thread and I will issue a warning at that time.

Domaineer1:
I tried to explain to internext that I can't take the domain with any fees related to acquiring of the domain. He gets very irritatwd clearly and starts sending me messages like "CAN YOU READ??? Seriously

THE $80 fee is ONLY if YOU want me to push it to you.

The reason I said we MUST TRANSFER NAME OUT is to get out of GoDaddy so there will be no fee!!!!

Stop being ignorant. Ive explained this what? 4 times now? I even gave you an example. Transfer to NameSilo is only $8.39 and renews the name another year too. Stop making excuses
" that's no way to talk to a fellow user on NamePros.com. I already told him that i honestly can't take the domain with any fees attached. I thought the domain would be free in the free domains section. Anyway, I still feel the way this internext got all in my face calling me names, shouting at me and all that is uncalling for and at the very least extremely unprofessional and should be repermanded. Anyway, I hope that makes the picture more clear. Cheers! :xf.smile:

internext:
Domaineer1 said:
I already told him that i honestly can't take the domain with any fees attached. I thought the domain would be free in the free domains section. Anyway, I still feel the way this internext got all in my face calling me names, shouting at me and all that is uncalling for and at the very least extremely unprofessional and should be repermanded.
Now @domaineer is claiming to be my victim. Their sense of entitlement is apparent

As for "thinking and feeling the name would be free, it is. Maybe rather than "thinking" this claimant should have READ and followed my crystal clear directions. The time to ask if I can push is not after you claim it.

Pretty darn clear,
internext said:
Expired at GoDaddy.

Must transfer out

Does anybody want it?

Must initiate the transfer in a timely manner

internext:
@Domaineer1 thanks for your fantasy feedback, As you will soon discover, retaliatory feedback is not allowed here. (@Amanda)

As I stated here earlier, I will gladly remove your earned feedback if you do the right thing and follow the rules of this forum and honor your claim

You keep stating ad nauseam that you'd take the name if there were no fees and it was free. As explained repeatedly, the only cost to receive this free name is that you transfer it out. It doesn't matter what you "think" or "feel" those are the facts and they were clearly stated in advance

Eric Lyon:
Please provide a link to the sales listing so we can investigate further.

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internext:
Eric Lyon said:
link to the sales listing
https://www.namepros.com/threads/preinvasive-com-exp-at-godaddy-must-transfer-out.1090590/

Amanda said:
If the transaction is not finalized in 24 hours please post in this thread
26 hours and counting
Thanks for the link.

The sales listing clearly states "Must transfer out" and @Domaineer1 placed a binding claim/sold post. It is a buyers responsibility to fully read and understand the sales requirements prior to placing a binding purchase agreement. A potential buyer may, at any time, send a message to the seller directly with questions about the sale prior to placing a binding purchase agreement.

In light of the above,

@Domaineer1 please send the payment for the domain name and provide your registrar details for the transfer.

Keep in mind that failure to honor a binding purchase agreement can result in an infraction that could limit your access to NamePros.

It's my hopes that you can both resolve this matter amicably within the next 24 hours (Final reminder) so I don't have to get further involved.

Thanks,
Thank you
Eric

Eric Lyon:
Unfortunately, it appears that @Domaineer1 will not be honoring this sale.

I have issued the unethical business practices infraction and the domain can now be relisted for sale.

@Domaineer1 - Please keep in mind that while this infraction did not restrict your account, it is a very high point infraction, meaning that if you break another rule, the next infraction may result in restricted access to NamePros.

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internext:
No communication since @Eric Lyon post other than this
https://www.namepros.com/threads/i-may-be-kicked-soon-my-story-please-help.1090996/#post-6809189

internext:
@Eric Lyon can you please address the retaliatory negative feedback I received in this matter? Thanks

Eric Lyon:
internext said:
@Eric Lyon can you please address the retaliatory negative feedback I received in this matter? Thanks
Absolutely!

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Eric Lyon:
Feedback removed. ;)

internext:
Thank you

Support Team:
@internext - As the rules state, you may not leave feedback for free domain transactions.

6.1.30. Any misuse or manipulation of the feedback system ("Trade Reviews") that is found to be deceiving, falsified, or retaliatory will be considered an unethical business practice and dealt with as such. Trade Reviews may not be used for gift exchanges (e.g., free domains), one-way exchanges, or transactions that take place outside of NamePros. Tip: Consider posting a message on the member's profile page or creating a public Review post to share other types of feedback.

Your feedback has been removed from @Domaineer1's account. Please do not violate that rule again.

internext:
so you encourage the sh*tty behavior. whatever. thanks

Support Team:
No, we do not encourage agreements to be broken; the member was issued a warning as a result. However, the feedback system is not for the purpose of gift exchanges.

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Here is the original feedback I was given from internext:
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Because new, claims an entitlement to break rules, waste time, act immaturely and have pure ignorance to stated conditions of sale. Avoid this user!!
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Here is the feedback I gave him afterwards: "Get's irrate, angry and billigerent very fast. I'm rather new here so this guy got to be the first "rager" I have met on NamePros (there's always one). Avoid at all costs, resorts to name calling if he doesn't get his way. Buyer stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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So there you guys go. That's everything. I hope this makes everything transparent. It's interesting how the feedback I left for internext was removed, but the feedback I left for internext was almost not removed (took another party AKA Support Team to do that). Anyway guys, there's everything. Please let me know if anything if confusing. I will try to add timestamps if I remember to (it took quite a while to paste all of this here.) Also I am pretty sure there is clauses the the NamePros rules that go over defaming another user on the platform with comments like Don't buy from this user like internext has stated earlier in this thread. I am not going to tell you who to do business with, but I would like you to make an educated decisions based on all information provided here. Enjoy!

Domaineer1
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Dude - why don't you just move on?

Find a better use for your time. This is just wasting time.
 
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Dude - why don't you just move on?

Find a better use for your time. This is just wasting time.
Hello blank,

Thanks for your message! I'm not worrying about this, I just posted this so everything is transparent and clear. This can also help others in the future who may have a similar situation in the 100% Free Domains section like I did. I see you are a newer guy as well, so I hoped this helped you. Thanks though for taking the time to express your point of view. Different points of view are valued and important to our society and establishing a diverse society and community. Thanks :)

There should be a area of this site for domains that are expired vs domains that are indeed 100% free and can be received with a free same registrar push. This way newbies will not have a misunderstanding.

I hope this helps and maybe inspires some new changes. Also I hope this shows what happens if you are not careful and claim a not 100% free domain. This is a good teaching thread.


Thanks everyone,
Domaineer1
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**Banging my head against the wall**

Restless world - Peace!
 
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It is transparent that you missed the main point, no need to add the direct (private) messages - OP clearly stated that you have to transfer the domain away. Free = OP does not get paid.

You made a mistake, learn from it & move on.
 
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Wow, so much whining over a silly error. Either pay up the $8 or delete your account and start over under a different name.

Look, we all have times when we are broke, but if $8 is going to put you in this position where you are telling the whole world about it and getting into multi-page arguements, then maybe you are getting into the wrong business.

Besides, who is going to trust you in future transactions if you cant handle something as simple and cheap as this ?
 
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Thanks everyone, I am trying to work it out with the OP. If I had $8 right now to take the domain I probably would, but I don't so I am thinking about what I could do. Thanks everyone! (y)(y)

While I agree with other sentiments that you should not claim it if you're unable to transfer it out, I also don't understand what use were you planning for considering the domain had already expired and to really do anything with the domain, you'd need to renew it anyway which means you'd incur some cost (likely higher at GD than transfering it out to say Namesilo).
 
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