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i). Apps alone can never replace websites. With Google focussing more and more on good mobile experience of a website, the future of apps look to be dark.

ii). For Apps, you need large amount of space in your phone. Even if you have installed 50-60 apps, it may be hectic to find one from the list.

iii). Even if websites would be there for long, I don't see Domainring to be there. Stricter laws may consider this as 'hoarding'. You may need a trade license, company registration to sell domains.

iv). If anybody does'nt uses a domain name for continuously 6 months, it would get deleted. Similar laws may follow.

Just my fears..!!
 
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i). Apps alone can never replace websites. With Google focussing more and more on good mobile experience of a website, the future of apps look to be dark.

ii). For Apps, you need large amount of space in your phone. Even if you have installed 50-60 apps, it may be hectic to find one from the list.

iii). Even if websites would be there for long, I don't see Domainring to be there. Stricter laws may consider this as 'hoarding'. You may need a trade license, company registration to sell domains.

iv). If anybody does'nt uses a domain name for continuously 6 months, it would get deleted. Similar laws may follow.

Just my fears..!!

i dont think realistically #4 would happen - if that was the case you would have an explosion of millions of new BS sites with little to no value to protect the use of owning the domain name

google did a way with crap parking sites, and im sure they don't want carbon copy clutter parking sites junking up the already crowded internet.

of all the threatening factors - i don't see this happeneing
 
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Apps will replace it is solid fact, the internet is dying. Thanks.

I think it'll be mostly the same. Apps won't be replacing domains anytime soon, if at all. Go try making one and you'll see the barrier to entry and if Apple doesn't like your app it doesn't go in the store. Sure you have Android but that's not the whole market and you're missing out on the other users. This is not the same as domains and websites with content. Nice try though to the wannabe trolls in this thread :ROFL:

With a domain and website you can have one online in 10 minutes with almost no barrier to stop you.

This.

@Daniel Owens as a user why should I download an app to see the site rather than just seeing the site (or web app)? As a developer why should I make apps for iOS, Android, Windows, etc rather than just one web site/app? Web apps have come a long way and can provide much of the functionality of native apps without the headaches.

There are already numerous apps out there that don't have websites. No, one needs a website to provide content an app does the job perfectly.

You could flip this the other way too. There are still wayyy more websites than apps and in the vast majority of use cases they are perfectly adequate and save business owners from developing/maintaining multiple apps. With all that said, I still want some GOOGL and FB stock as a hedge :xf.smile:
 
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but if i want to do some research, work, book a trip, etc - im using a computer - easier than scrolling through a micro screen and using my big thumbs to type on my micro keyboard on my phone, lol

Had to laugh at that. It could be me :)
 
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I think I speak for everyone when I predict that .app will have completely replaced .com as the king of domains.
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Not sure about 10 years, but domains have had a good 25 years, can't see them having another 25 years.

Last 10 years the smartphone has changed how people view the net with apps and with Virtual and Augmented Reality around the corner, along with IoT ie. just about every device connected to the net in some shape or form, how we interact with the internet will change and domains will go the same way as cassette tapes/VHS's when cd's came out.
The whole idea behind IoT is to have basically everything interconnected via the Internet, hence creating a digital mesh. Each of these things ranging from your smart fridge to your thermostat all need an address to exist on the internet. Usually, this is usually a string of numbers like 123.456.789.0 but how many people can remember that. This is why domain names were invented: To create simplicity for the internet's addressing system.

So, I don't think domain names will become obsolete; not as long as the internet still exists. Maybe, technology may change how we use the internet. But it won't change the fact that you still need to find your way around.
 
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Saying that apps are going to kill domain names or the Internet is ridiculous.
20 years ago, it was search engines that would make domain names obsolete.

The smart phone or the Internet have not killed phone numbers, that have been around for decades. Domain names are a bit like phone numbers infrastructure-wise, but they are brands too.
 
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I think it'll be mostly the same. Apps won't be replacing domains anytime soon, if at all. Go try making one and you'll see the barrier to entry and if Apple doesn't like your app it doesn't go in the store. Sure you have Android but that's not the whole market and you're missing out on the other users. This is not the same as domains and websites with content. Nice try though to the wannabe trolls in this thread :ROFL:

With a domain and website you can have one online in 10 minutes with almost no barrier to stop you.
I agree with you. People talk about apps but what are apps without the internet. Save for a few utility apps, most apps still require the internet to function. From news app to game apps, the content is still on the internet. As for cloud storage, isn't that still over the internet?
 
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In 10 yrs there will be much more traffic and users from Asia and Africa. .com continues to be the gold standard, I am talking about premium domains or quality domains here. Companies will have to target by Countries and Regions rather than one website for all, which will be increasing importance for Country Code domains. cctlds combined could be 3 to 4 times the size of .com domains. - .de, .co.uk, .in/.co.in , .cn will be the biggies

Top 20 markets in the world rankings will change in 10 yrs - US, China , India will be the Top 3
With .com premium prices climbing, the next best options cctlds will also rise in prices
Developing countries go from mobile phones to PC's with more affordable Always ON High Speed Broadband availability at homes
 
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Saying that apps are going to kill domain names or the Internet is ridiculous.
20 years ago, it was search engines that would make domain names obsolete.

The smart phone or the Internet have not killed phone numbers, that have been around for decades. Domain names are a bit like phone numbers infrastructure-wise, but they are brands too.

I see the trends appear to be going the other way, if eMarketer is to be believed:

eMarketer published this in October 2017 showing that apps make up 88%+ of mobile internet usage in many countries and if that's true that can't be ignored:
http://www.emarketer.com/Chart/Aver...ct-Countries-May-2017-minutes-of-total/212617

This shows how in-browser use on mobile devices has remained flat and in app internet consumption is 84.9% (leaving 15.1% for mobile in-browser use):
https://www.emarketer.com/Article/eMarketer-Unveils-New-Estimates-Mobile-App-Usage/1015611

This one, also from eMarketer talks about the percentage of ads displayed in Asia-Pacific region. It shows that 77% of mobile ads were displayed in-app rather than on the mobile web. Ads = $$$ = Content.
https://www.emarketer.com/Article/Native-App-May-Killing-Mobile-Web-Asia-Pacific/1016344
This one shows that mobile access is the most prevalent way of accessing the internet in the UK
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https://www.emarketer.com/Article/Smartphone-Use-Headed-New-Milestone-UK/1016444

Whilst domains don't appear to be redundant, if mobile web, apps and "app stores" become more prevalent, the exposure of the average Joe to domains could become less and less, leaving domains as more of just an infrastructure concern.

Would like to see other articles to the contrary though... :wacky:
 
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Domaining will continue to decline. Most domains are sold between domainers not endusers. Once the number of domainers reach the over saturation point, the market will become stagnant with a bunch of people holding domains they can't sell.
 
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Evidence of change is already happening, rise of the smartphones in the last 10 years (apps)/rise of social media, some companies opting not to have their own website for business but social networking pages instead (Facebook/Instagram/YouTube/Twitter/LinkedIn).

That's not change, that's companies showing how novice they are to social media and the internet as a whole.

Giving YouTube, Instagram (FB), and Facebook full control of your audience is stupidity. You need to drive those consumers to a controlled web experience just like they experience on these other sites.

Go look up some horror stories of individuals with 1MM+ subscribers having their presence wiped from a platform because the site didn't agree with their content. Or even worse; keep your channel but get demonetized from the platform rendering you financially neutered.

Domains aren't going anywhere, and I'm saying this as a developer not a domainer.

Everyone needs some kind of anchor/consistency online to find content, and using another platform like Google or Bing to rely on this direction might be popular but there still needs to be a way for consumers to control how to arrive to a destination.

With those aforementioned social media pages I'm starting to see content creators wake up and buy domains that their audience can go to for "merch". Keeping the profits in-house instead of going through a 3rd party.

Even with ads and commercials, nobody says, "Go to Google and type ...". People say, "Visit DeliDash.com ..." It's a controlled way for people to find destinations online.

10 years from now it might be rare for someone to own a domain portfolio, it's too cheap to own a domain right now (renewals). There will come a time where we will have to register these out for 10 years because the next year is going to be some kind of $20 - $50 renewal fee from ICANN.

This whole gTLD program was a cash grab, anyone that can't see that now should just stop domaining and invest in sand or a nice warm dirt pile they can stick their heads in.

ICANN likes cash, and they don't care what they have to do to get it.

So domains aren't going anywhere, but I agree that the domainer will get pushed out (or on) at some point financially.
 
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bout 12 years ago, "they" were speculating about whether iPhone and .mobi, would replace .com

and today, some of the "they", are talking bout app use on the iPhone, using dot app.... will replace .com

meanwhile many of "they" from 12 years ago, are no longer around.
and their "space" in this place, has been replaced, by new speculators and predictors of what is to come

I just hope to be around a decade from now, to look back at today, again.

:)

imo...
 
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Rather or not the domain investing business is still viable in 10-25 years could easily be up for debate.

But if you understand how the internet works, domains will always be needed to direct internet traffic.

IP addresses change over time for different reasons, then add in redundancy and load balancing, etc - and you MUST have a naming convention to resolve to an IP address.

FYI: A large amount of apps are just pulling web content into their container. They are really nothing more than that - a container that is serving you the content from a web page.

Then you have email and many other reasons domains won't go away.

Will it make sense to stockpile them and try to sell them in the distant future? Not sure. gTLDs could be the death of that if they are every truly adopted. It will then only be the registries making money.

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My prediction is that in 10 to 20 years they will "drop the dot". I believe you will still have a search bar but you will have domains much like "google" with no .com, .net, .org. it will just be "google" and it takes you right there. Other domains will still exist but it will be necessary for you to include the dot. Google.org will still take you to their charitable site but it's main site will be dotless.
 
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@DomainVP BOOM! That's how you get 11,800 likes. Very well said. Today I saw an ad for Wish in my FB feed on my phone (I think in browser, possibly in FB app) and clicked on a "Shop Now" button below a product image. I was then taken to the play store to download Wish after which I presumably would have been forced to sign up. But but but what happened to the crappy cheap product I wanted to see 😭? That is bad UX. Read case studies about forced signed up vs guest checkout.
 
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I see it becoming harder to contact potential end users directly - GDPR is already doing this in Europe but I think something similar will inevitably hit the US at some point. This will mean most sellers will trade on forums such as this (good news for NPs) and for end users, companies like Sedo, Afternic (GD) will increase revenue.

Dot COM will still be king and the prices of registration will hit $30 mark, this will help cctlds such as .in, .co.in, co.uk, .uk, .de, co, ca etc increase in value. I also see ngtlds increasing in value (not all, but the good ones) and this will mean some domainers with a good portfolio will make some decent money - If and it's a big IF...... they can afford the renewals until then!
 
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well, 5 LLLLL . com will be worth more then now

the rest will stay the same .
 
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hmmm... i dont remember anyone saying .mobi will replace .com.. even the craziest mobites did not say that.

12 years ago people were actually arguing that really nobody will use mobile phones for internet besides a few limited things like sports and weather. before the iPhone, the majority of people were arguing that a smartphone screen was too small for people to use on a regular basis. people were combining mobile device internet viability arguments with the .mobi domain name...was pretty funny. but yes 12 years ago most people on this and other forums said mobile phone internet usage will not be very popular because the screens are too small. this was really one of the conversations going on.... some people that thought mobile phone internet usage would explode and because of that .mobi would of course be along for that ride in the front seat.

you can hand register stuff today in .mobi that people paid $20,000 for in like 2007... im not saying you should.. mobi is a pretty silly sounding domain ending when there are so many real words available now.

anyone saying anything is ridiculous is way too comfortable. "old man yells at cloud" comes to mind..

but seriously, new gTLD will be accepted eventually. its already started to happen. the problem is when domainers look for a "big winner" with new gTLD...

people saying .app or .web or this one or that one will be the "most popular".. there probably will not be a most popular new gTLD... this is old domainer contest thinking.

new gTLD are the new "domain hacks"... they are what domain hacks should have been all along... stuff like "del.icio.us" was always pretty stupid...but things like "shoe.store", "computer.parts", "injury.attorney" are clean sounding and pronounceable will become the norm... dotCOM is too ingrained to go anywhere or be "replaced" though

I dont think there will be a "most popular" though... just any words separated by a dot.. even if Nike and started using the domain "shoe.store" exclusively it doesnt add any value to the .store TLD.. doesnt make it more valuable than .kitchen

its not the extension, its the the combination of both words... also the registries are the new domainers now.. they can charge or ask for the final price right out of the gate.. no need for the lowly domainer to register at $6.99 and then ask 50k... im not saying "shoe.shop" is worth $13,999 per year... but its not out of line for a registry to ask this price.. domainers do this type of thing all the time.
 
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Apps replace domains. Just read carefully next time before jumping to conclusions. There will be a central database to store in cloud where the app get's the info just no need for domains.

A majority of apps require backend (server side) services to work. How exactly do you forsee the apps will communicate with backend services? Now, we can make an argument that apps don't need easy to remember domains but they will still need domains even to connect with this central database that you predict. And even this central database is a bad idea given the requirements of redudancy, latency and low RTT to access the content. With the world moving to cloud architecture precisely to avoid a single point of failure (a central database), a system to disambiguate the different cloud instances is needed. Again where domains come into play.

A system replace the entier domain name system possibly? Yes, that's possible as well. However, if we look back at history of technology adoption, especially some new technology that will replace an extremely ubiquitous technology such as DNS will not happen so quickly (~10 years time). Just look at how long IPv6 took to replace IPv4 (and it's still not fully complete).
 
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Apps can be good only for a service or product industry like Uber or Amazon.

For all other information related things, apps can never deliver much.

For example, in a website, we can click on links useful to us which forwards us to another site. This won't happen with Apps.

What if I need more info and have to click on a link inside an app? To open that 3rd party link we need another 3rd party app which would be so unnecessary for a one time access..!!
 
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Domains are here to stay imo.

When you get into javascript, the whole language is built around the "dot". The domain is just the first part of the "dom". It's really a part of a computer language.

I cannot see the syntax changing.

For the "dot" to go, the whole language would have to go.

One risk is pricing. Say renewals rise to $25 per domain .. that effects most of us in a bad way.

Let's say that's the Yin.

The Yang could be Godaddy get control of the registry and slash the wholesale cost to say $2... now that gets me thinking!
 
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I don't think domains are going away, although 10 years is a long time.

But domaining will , IMO. As in "no longer be able to systematically buy domains at prices that allow for a decent profit"
 
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As any market matures, the top-end usually enjoys a spike in price, prestige and demand, while the middle-class drops and the lower-end totally disappears.

So in 10 years, many premium domains (like smaller keywords, LL,etc.) may actually appreciate in value, while virtually everything else will drop or tank. The smart money is buying those today, which is why so see so many LL.com's heading to China.
 
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Domains are here to stay imo.

When you get into javascript, the whole language is built around the "dot". The domain is just the first part of the "dom". It's really a part of a computer language.

I cannot see the syntax changing.

For the "dot" to go, the whole language would have to go.
I really don't understand what you mean. JavaScript is built around the dot? What do you mean? I've been building websites for years and I don't have a clue what you're on about.

The DOM is a representation of the page that tracks changes... nothing to do with domains.

JavaScript is being written more and more outside of the browser environment and executed as a server side language, like in NodeJS.
 
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