debate If a domain is 1 year or younger in age, are you less likely to buy it?

Daniel Owens · Jun 21, 2018

It, is a known fact that aged domains rank better in google, however it seems like as many has half the domains listed on namepros (auction section especially) have been registered in the last 3 months, so not even 1 year old. What do you guys think about the value of domain age?

Michael M · Jun 22, 2018

hookbox said:
I don't agree with the OP.

@Eric Lyon should come up with some type of system to rate members based off how many posts a member has made and how many likes that.member has received based on those posts. A member with 10,000 posts with only 500 likes would show newbies who to really listen to and who not to. For example a member with 1,000 posts and 1,000 likes would have at least a 100% positive rating. If your likes are higher than the amount of your posts then your rating would be even higher than 100% but if your likes are one tenth the amount of your posts then your rating would reflect that with an overall much lower rating. Newbies would then know who to listen.to and who is full of sh*t. To make the rating realistic all likes received in the break room or wherever else because someone liked a picture you posted wouldn't count toward the overall score. Only relevant likes for real posts would count toward your score rating.

It's basically a crowd rating based off your peers.

Wow... I did not notice the OPs like to post ratio. Staggering.

No offense OP - but I have seen your rampage against many posts that mentions hand regging lately, and I don't think you are helping anyone.

I think you should face your choices, and learn from them. But that is just my humble advice to you, if you choose to accept it.

toughdomains · Jun 23, 2018

I think domain age as a Google factor has decreased but I would not say it doesnt matter at all. Ill give my 2 cents in a 2 part
1. If your looking for a name that has some page authority and page rank and age for a content site and you want to start with a name that already has some SEO then you may want to look at age as well as page authority domain auth and page rank as other factors as well as traffic.

2. if your looking to purchase a name for a new company and dont care about any of these SEO factors and your set on a .com and you want a good 2 word domain you will probably be looking at a aftermarket domain. Age really doesnt matter in this case. People renew horrible names each year hoping to someone will offer them something. So if you have a really bad name that was renewed for the past 20 years its not any better than you doing a hand reg. However its nice to see on sites like flippa the age of the domain.

I think as a seller you should always use anything you can to promote your name to a buyer. If you know the age of the name even if most buyers say they dont care why wouldnt you include this in the sales pitch? I have never had a buyer admit to wanting a name for its age but if I look back at my sales the names with more age sell more frequently and for more $$ than those that are new (in general)

For everyone that knows every detail about their domain great. But I would not suggest selling a name where you dont know at least the age and traffic coming into the name. If none of this stuff mattered then domain tools like domainiq would be out of biz. It matters a little to some people at the end of the day.

Imagine selling your home for market value and then realizing later it had some historical significance...better to know all you can upfront.

forge · Jun 23, 2018

hookbox said:
@Eric Lyon should come up with some type of system to rate members based off how many posts a member has made and how many likes that.member has received based on those posts. A member with 10,000 posts with only 500 likes would show newbies who to really listen to and who not to. For example a member with 1,000 posts and 1,000 likes would have at least a 100% positive rating. If your likes are higher than the amount of your posts then your rating would be even higher than 100% but if your likes are one tenth the amount of your posts then your rating would reflect that with an overall much lower rating. Newbies would then know who to listen.to and who is full of sh*t. To make the rating realistic all likes received in the break room or wherever else because someone liked a picture you posted wouldn't count toward the overall score. Only relevant likes for real posts would count toward your score rating.

It's basically a crowd rating based off your peers.

At first sight this would seem a good idea, but unfortunately it's not so difficult to accumulate likes from posting in threads such as welcoming new members, 4-letter word games, as well as other socializing "break room" type threads.

hookbox · Jun 23, 2018

forge said:
At first sight this would seem a good idea, but unfortunately it's not so difficult to accumulate likes from posting in threads such as welcoming new members, 4-letter word games, as well as other socializing "break room" type threads.

I agree thats why you base the algorithm off only the relevant sections of Namepros. Don't include any section in the algorithm where fluff likes appear.

forge · Jun 23, 2018

hookbox said:
I agree thats why you base the algorithm off only the relevant sections of Namepros. Don't include any section in the algorithm where fluff likes appear.

Gaah, sorry somehow I missed that portion of your post.

lock · Jun 23, 2018

Older is better but so much is super seeded. Remember every domain trend come and gone. See how generic although not rated high has survivied.

DomainFQ.com · Jun 23, 2018

Age of Domain doesn't matter

Dogmains · Jun 23, 2018

Daniel Owens said:
Hand-regging is a really bad thing to do and most of us need to limit it a lot to very few per year or stop the practice.

If they stop hand regging where am I gonna get my drops from?

Haykay2005 · Jun 23, 2018

Dogmains said:
If they stop hand regging where am I gonna get my drops from?

That's the question we should ask ourselves. What would you buy at aftermarket if you discourage handreg completely

SheikhOvais · Jun 23, 2018

toughdomains said:
I think domain age as a Google factor has decreased but I would not say it doesnt matter at all. Ill give my 2 cents in a 2 part
1. If your looking for a name that has some page authority and page rank and age for a content site and you want to start with a name that already has some SEO then you may want to look at age as well as page authority domain auth and page rank as other factors as well as traffic.

2. if your looking to purchase a name for a new company and dont care about any of these SEO factors and your set on a .com and you want a good 2 word domain you will probably be looking at a aftermarket domain. Age really doesnt matter in this case. People renew horrible names each year hoping to someone will offer them something. So if you have a really bad name that was renewed for the past 20 years its not any better than you doing a hand reg. However its nice to see on sites like flippa the age of the domain.

I think as a seller you should always use anything you can to promote your name to a buyer. If you know the age of the name even if most buyers say they dont care why wouldnt you include this in the sales pitch? I have never had a buyer admit to wanting a name for its age but if I look back at my sales the names with more age sell more frequently and for more $$ than those that are new (in general)

For everyone that knows every detail about their domain great. But I would not suggest selling a name where you dont know at least the age and traffic coming into the name. If none of this stuff mattered then domain tools like domainiq would be out of biz. It matters a little to some people at the end of the day.

Imagine selling your home for market value and then realizing later it had some historical significance...better to know all you can upfront.

Nice points but these are only exceptions and the majority of buyers do not really care about PA/DA or PageRank stuff.

Yes, if some SEO guy wants to have a domain with history (and PA/DA), then it's different, but like I said, we don't see these buyers very often.

Peace.

NickB · Jun 23, 2018

Has anyone on here got a portfolio solely built from NON hand regged names?

I seriously doubt it, including the original poster......If you do, please share.

toughdomains · Jun 23, 2018

SheikhOvais said:
Nice points but these are only exceptions and the majority of buyers do not really care about PA/DA or PageRank stuff.

Yes, if some SEO guy wants to have a domain with history (and PA/DA), then it's different, but like I said, we don't see these buyers very often.

Peace.

agreed see part 2 of my reply
2. if your looking to purchase a name for a new company and dont care about any of these SEO factors and your set on a .com and you want a good 2 word domain you will probably be looking at a aftermarket domain. Age really doesnt matter in this case. People renew horrible names each year hoping to someone will offer them something. So if you have a really bad name that was renewed for the past 20 years its not any better than you doing a hand reg. However its nice to see on sites like flippa the age of the domain.

I think as a seller you should always use anything you can to promote your name to a buyer. If you know the age of the name even if most buyers say they dont care why wouldnt you include this in the sales pitch? I have never had a buyer admit to wanting a name for its age but if I look back at my sales the names with more age sell more frequently and for more $$ than those that are new (in general)

boker · Jun 23, 2018

MrAcidic said:
Has anyone on here got a portfolio solely built from NON hand regged names?

I seriously doubt it, including the original poster......If you do, please share.

I have a portofolio build out just from hand regged names, if that's any help. I have never bought anything from auctions or aftermarket and I have made a profit every year starting from 2015.

WebHostingUK · Jun 23, 2018

Bought web-hosting-uk.com and website-design-uk.com both new domains, thought l got a bit of a bargain personally as they are the keywords I was also looking for.

NickB · Jun 23, 2018

boker said:
I have a portofolio build out just from hand regged names, if that's any help. I have never bought anything from auctions or aftermarket and I have made a profit every year starting from 2015.

That Helps!

likeslikes · Jun 24, 2018

I honestly don't think that domain age has as much to do with ranking in Google as it used to these days. I'm heavily involved in the SEO game, and have spent thousands on courses for it and there are just so many more important factors than even worrying about domain age in my opinion.

iGreen · Jun 24, 2018

For domain investors, Yes age matters. For end user, it doesn't.

NameShiba · Jun 25, 2018

covfefe.com

Was handreg'd with immediate X,XXX offers.

Age is something I do personally look at, I don't usually pick up domains that have a history of being dropped. A good rule of thumb -- is if it has a consistent owner, there is a reason for that.

DotComWriters · Jun 25, 2018

The first thing I would worry about is if the domain is full of penalties, which both newer and older domains can have. Obviously, I would prefer an aged domain in any case.

Michael M · Jun 26, 2018

This thread made me go back and look at my recent end user sales to see how many were handregged. I wanted to share this so that new investors might see it isn’t about the age of a domain – but the name itself.

Analyzing my last 20 end user sales, here is where I purchased them from:

Handreg – 9

Auctions - 6

Namepros – 5

For me, hand regging has been profitable. But for anyone that is new – please understand – hand regging crap will not produce good results. Most good names are already taken - but there are hidden gems out there.

You need to study the market and trends before jumping in. And – as always – never invest more than you can lose.

JudgeMind · Jun 26, 2018

When I switched to only investing in domains older than 10years I noticed a huge increase in my sales. The age of a domain can, and most often reflects the quality of the domain... strong keywords, desirable extension etc

elevator · Jun 26, 2018

Daniel Owens said:
It's very bad and namepros members who do it are teaching the newbees how to lose money. We need threads advising against it. One or two a year at most. Then the other 50 - 100 domains you buy should be dropcatch or from some auction platform just try to get them below wholesale. Even, better get them off here and flip (although domains do sell super high on namepros there are some good deals).

Why did you say hand reg is bad. there are many hand reg that sells around $1000 - 3000 and how would you say that is bad. If you know what you are doing, hand regs are very good.

Michael M · Jun 26, 2018

JudgeMind said:
When I switched to only investing in domains older than 10years I noticed a huge increase in my sales. The age of a domain can, and most often reflects the quality of the domain... strong keywords, desirable extension etc

I have recently moved over towards much more expensive and older domains as well... But looking at what is selling for me lately - looks like I might need to do some more handregging and NPs shopping.

I think there is merit to both approaches and domainers should keep both tools in their pocket.

elevator · Jun 26, 2018

Daniel Owens said:
It's very bad and namepros members who do it are teaching the newbees how to lose money. We need threads advising against it. One or two a year at most. Then the other 50 - 100 domains you buy should be dropcatch or from some auction platform just try to get them below wholesale. Even, better get them off here and flip (although domains do sell super high on namepros there are some good deals).

Daniel Owens said:
Any good bitcoin domains was hand-regged over 10 years ago, there is a 0.0001% chance your BTC domain would sell for over $500 IF you just hand-regged it in the past 1 year. Thus, crypto domains are the same animal as any hand-regged domain this year, thus all hand-regs in 2018 are dumb investments.

Please I would like you to read through my article on this your post here

Cheers

ctmixing · Jun 28, 2018

I hand regged a name on 11/2017 and sold it for $8500 on 5/2018.

I only hand-reg.

debate If a domain is 1 year or younger in age, are you less likely to buy it?

Are you less likely to buy a domain if it's 1 year old only?

No, the age of domain doesn't matter to me.

Yes, I prefer aged domains.

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