debate Should seller of a brandable disclose if it's been offered to BB, BP etc?

You should ask, imo.

Not many would voluntarily devaluate their domains by revealing they were rejected by one or more venue.

If you ask, then yes absolutely, one should come clean.

In some cases, domains rejected by those venues sell for good money. I've seen some cases in the sales report here.

So good luck. Hope it sells

MS-Domains said:

You should ask, imo.

Not many would voluntarily devaluate their domains by revealing they were rejected by one or more venue.

If you ask, then yes absolutely, one should come clean.

In some cases, domains rejected by those venues sell for good money. I've seen some cases in the sales report here.

So good luck. Hope it sells

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Fully agree with this.

JanO said:

should a seller disclose that fact whilst offering a domain for sale

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No

JanO said:

is it the sole responsibility of the buyer to ask before buying?

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Yes

If it matters to you, ask, if not, don't ask! It's part of a buyers due diligence as there are too many brandable marketplaces for a seller to list if the domain has been rejected or not.

If the buyer has plans to put it on one of these marketplaces but fails to ask the seller if it's ever been submitted then it's 100% the fault of the buyer.

You can ask if your intention is to list on one of those sites.
Otherwise it doesn't matter. But I hope you don't use rejection as a purchase criterion, it would be nearly as pointless as relying on an automated appraisal. Back in the day, BB used to approve unregistered domains - some people were gaming their system.

Something else to consider: the seller may not be the first owner. Thus, he cannot tell you what the previous holder did or attempted to do with the name, because he doesn't know the full history.

Kate said:

You can ask if your intention is to list on one of those sites.
Otherwise it doesn't matter. But I hope you don't use rejection as a purchase criterion, it would be nearly as pointless as relying on an automated appraisal. Back in the day, BB used to approve unregistered domains - some people were gaming their system.

Something else to consider: the seller may not be the first owner. Thus, he cannot tell you what the previous holder did or attempted to do with the name, because he doesn't know the full history.​

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Their opinion isn't a purchase criteria; I buy it because I think it's brandable. But the most obvious, easiest route (for me and I think for many) to sell the domain for big bucks is those marketplaces.

I agree with @hookbox that the seller doesn't need to disclose a rejection, unless asked by a buyer.

I don't know about other venues, but at BB you can do a 'dry run' - if I'm considering buying someone's domain (or backordering an expiring domain) specifically for the purpose of submitting it to BB, I'll add the domain on the add page, then click the Next button; then it will tell you if that domain has been previously rejected by them. If there's no notice, then it hasn't been submitted before.

Then I just hit the Back button (rather than the Submit) and delete the fields to blank again. I don't know if that works on the other venues but I do it often at BB

110% the buyers responsibility, unless you specifically asked for approved or accepted names from those marketplaces,

as a side note: those marketplaces do tend to change their mind from time to time. so, maybe in the future they may accept the name.

Wow.. 100% agreement in a thread. Someone close it.

Kate said:

Back in the day, BB used to approve unregistered domains - some people were gaming their system

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They still do
It costs a buck now though but you can get unregistered domains "appraised" by BB!

I always ask sellers about BB/BP rejection and all of them have been honest so far.

Just like any other product, you need to do your due diligence. Caveat emptor.

Kate said:

Something else to consider: the seller may not be the first owner. Thus, he cannot tell you what the previous holder did or attempted to do with the name, because he doesn't know the full history.

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urlurl said:

as a side note: those marketplaces do tend to change their mind from time to time. so, maybe in the future they may accept the name.

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^^ Two very good points, i was gonna say these myself.