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news Whois data GONE in USA on May 25, 2018

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Yet privacy rights were not the issue raised in the discussion convened by the IPC/BC on their proposed model for 'accreditation' to access Whois data. Instead, last Friday, we heard - yet again - how to give unlimited access to Whois data to any law enforcement, any cybersecurity firm, any trademark owner; basically to anyone who seeks it. The potential that journalists might use the non-public WHOIS data was recognized and credited; the potential that journalists might be the subject of a fishing expedition by a government or individual they criticized in a publication was not. The IPC/BC lawyers heading the meeting then heard that the GDRP rejects unlimited access to data — and they, in turn, unilaterally rejected the interpretation and advice of the legal advisor to ICANN, in the Hamilton Memo (#3). They told 150 people listening to the meeting that ICANN could give unlimited access to non-public Whois data to those the IPC/BC chose in their accreditation model.

We need real community consultation and on neutral ground — at ICANN — where we can again discuss what the law requires and what real compliance involves. Most importantly, we need to stop talking about who wants access to domain name data and start talking about how to respect the privacy rights of registrants. On this day of all days, on this week of all weeks, it's time for ICANN to be on the right side of law, the right side of principle and the right side of history. We hold the personal and sensitive data of almost 200 million domain name registrants. Today we must recognize that the privacy of this data could be the difference between protection and suppression.
 
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I blame those folks that keep calling me to sell me a website building service. Gowebby

Godaddy will still be able to access the information.
 
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This policy affects gTLDs only.
ccTLD registries are not obliged to follow it.
 
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EU ccTLDs are certainly affected by GDPR.
 
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Anyone, know what the verification process for domains on sedo and godaddy will look like since they can't verify via whois (after 25th)?
 
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Not sure what the freak-out is about, this is easily solved by landing pages.

Put in the work, get what it's worth.


Yes, this.

And on an unintended consequences note, I predict that spam may actually increase because the spammers will launch salvos of emails with all the likely email names: webmaster, admin, support, sales, [email protected], etc.
 
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Yes, this.

And on an unintended consequences note, I predict that spam may actually increase because the spammers will launch salvos of emails with all the likely email names: webmaster, admin, support, sales, etc.

I think you're right, bobbarato. I've personally already seen more spam emails and phone calls. Last ditched efforts. There's also the people whom have been scraping lists for years that are about to make a fortune selling their list to thousands of desperate spammers.
 
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Hey domainers! I have some questions about the upcoming GDPR and how it affects WHOIS. Thought this might be a good thread to ask.

1) Is all the WHOIS information for domains disappearing completely? Or to be more precise, it will still exist, but it won't be visible to people. Will any of the field be visible? For example, I'm thinking of email address. Will there simply be nothing there, or will there be like a proxy email address, so that you can still reach the owner, but just won't be able to see their actual email address?

2) If there is literally no way to contact the owner (address, phone number, email address, etc..), how would a UDRP work? If there is no way to contact the owner of a domain......then.....??

3) If a domain is sold, how can confirmation of ownership change be verified if WHOIS is invisible? If using escrow, for example, an unscrupulous buyer could claim he/she never received a domain (even if he/she did). The transaction could be cancelled and funds returned to the buyer (who now also has the domain name!). Come to think of it, how did this previously work with a domain under WHOIS privacy? Maybe the same "method" would work now? Not sure what that it, though.
 
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Anyone, know what the verification process for domains on sedo and godaddy will look like since they can't verify via whois (after 25th)?
Just received this email from Sedo:

WHOIS is disappearing – confirm your ownership now!
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On May 25, 2018, the General Data Protection Regulation will take effect. This means the WHOIS will “disappear”. In the new public record system, personal data will no longer be visible either to individuals or Sedo. So far we were able to verify from the WHOIS records that you are the legitimate owner of the domains you listed for sale. This means it will be much harder for us to match your account data with the WHOIS information in order to clear your domains for sale on our site.

The Solution: Our Owner Self-Verification. With the Owner Self-Verification, you can quickly prove your ownership of any domain you list for sale. Even on weekends and holidays!


3 steps to Owner Self-Verification
  1. Sedo provides you with a personal ID in your account under "Domain Management" under the tab "Owner Self-Verification".
  2. Copy it and enter it at your registrar. To do this, visit your registrar and make this update within the DNS settings.
  3. Enter your verification ID into the TXT record field of your domains. If your registrar needs you to submit a Hostname, simply enter “@”. Also, if you need to enter a TTL value, please enter “3600”.
Your ownership will be verified once the DNS information is updated. With your support, we can ensure that only domains that have owner-verified credentials are still listed on the marketplace.

No Owner Self-Verification = longer wait times

If you do not perform the Owner Self-Verification, it will take at least 3 business days for your domains to be listed for sale. During the review period, we will randomly check individual domains and may contact you to request proof of ownership (e.g., in the form of an up-to-date screenshot of the domain entry).


Owner Self-Verification is not available for domain parking

If you already use Sedo's domain parking and forward your domains through our domain name servers (DNS), Owner Self-Verification is currently unavailable. DNS forwarding enables your domains to be automatically listed for sale without waiting time. As of now, nothing changes for you.


We want to provide buyers and sellers with a safe and user-friendly platform at all times and look forward to your support. Do you have questions about owner verification? Our Customer Support Team is happy to answer them.

Best regards,
Your Sedo Team

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@Dynadot replied that they still don't know the new transfer procedure for Donuts TLDs... and that they will email me later regarding this matter...
Thanks for the patience while we investigate the transfer issue under GDPR. Currently, we are still waiting for the new policy to be settled by ICANN and we will send out an email regarding that when the policy if finally decided.

At this moment, you will be able to unlock your domain as usual to get the auth code currently for transfer and then give it to the gaining registrar. The gaining registrar will then start the transfer procedures based on their new policy under GDPR.
 
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Looks like this was a sham and whios has not gone away. Disappointed that someone would spread such unclear information here. Probably, possibly affect .eu domains but nothing else.
 
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Looks like this was a sham and whios has not gone away. Disappointed that someone would spread such unclear information here. Probably, possibly affect .eu domains but nothing else.
It seems to be hit and miss as to what is still there and what isn't so far. A number of registrars have redacted whois info. Some haven't.
 
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It seems to be hit and miss as to what is still there and what isn't so far. A number of registrars have redacted whois info. Some haven't.
Interesting godaddy is still selling the privacy option today. I will pass until I'm 100% sure, that this is not a sham about whois info going away.
 
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Interesting godaddy is still selling the privacy option today. I will pass until I'm 100% sure, that this is not a sham about whois info going away.
Godaddy is only blocking whois of EU customers. Seems a few others are doing this as well. Glad to see this.
 
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Godaddy is only blocking whois of EU customers. Seems a few others are doing this as well. Glad to see this.
I'm in USA. So, buying privacy for my own personal site's that I want hidden is still worth it then?
 
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How do we get an approval email, when transferring to another registrar?
 
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How do we get an approval email, when transferring to another registrar?

I was wondering about the same.

At the moment I have an issue probably because of this GDPR BS. I sold a domain (Dynadot domain, and e-mail is still visible in whois). The buyer initiated the transfer from his GoDaddy account a few hours ago and there is still no e-mail from the receiving registrar (GoDaddy). I am not sure if GoDaddy is "scared" to use my personal data (e-mail address) because of this GDPR BS as I am from EU.

I usually receive an e-mail from the receiving registrar within a few minutes, but there is still no e-mail.
 
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The title should be changed from, "Whois data GONE in USA" to "Whois data GONE in EU". In, a way it's good to see whois still exist even with the spam factor, makes it much easier to validate ownership if domain is outside EU of course.
 
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