The USA Political Thread

lennco · Jul 20, 2012

Here you can spout your USA political views.

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4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

DNWon said:
You mean the post by Enlytend where she says that pleading the fifth is admitting to a crime?
Yeah, I missed that one! Where invoking your constitutional rights is a crime in her world!
Nice touch with the "I told you so" video! Pretty Funny!
Did you post it to yourself too, for Pompeo's confirmation today!

enlytend said:
Mobsters take the 5th. Innocent people not so much.

It's from the video I posted. Trump said that. Did you watch the video? She was repeating what he said.

16 second mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=hMyh7ko9L2g

DNWon said:
Impossible, it's all they got going over there on the left. No solutions, no bipartisanship (see DACA) just obstruction, dirty politics, smear campaigns and a ton of whining!

Talking about being thin skinned. You guys that support Trump have the thinnest. Constantly crying about this.

Pointing out facts to you guys = Trump hate. Well, you have somebody like Trump, that is a complete disaster, not much good is going to come from that.

Then crying about obstruction, like you forgot the obstruction Obama went thru.

Kate · Apr 26, 2018

There is a difference though, past presidents paid lip service to democracy and weren't constantly at war against the free press, the American institutions (including the justice system), even against his own administration that he contradicts all the time. What a flip-flopper, totally inconsistent, undecided yet divisive.
A bad manager too, hence the high turnover and lack of talent.
45 doesn't seem to even love America that much. Maybe that's the thing, to be respected you ought to be respectable, and you don't get respect from other people when you lack self-respect, that is respect for yourself, your country and your office.

He said he would drain the swamp but he is the embodiment of the swamp. When was the last time we had a president with so many incestuous business relationships and conflicts of interests ? Not in my lifetime.

The posters here would not tolerate a tenth of that coming from another party. In fact they would be demanding impeachment for treason. Sounds about right.

DNWon · Apr 26, 2018

enlytend said:
This means he has admitted in a court of law that if he testifies he would be admitting to committing crimes.

This is what I took offense too! Called her out on it and she posts a link to the forum rules on respect and now she's calling me a bully!

johname · Apr 26, 2018

Dang not another sex word I have to figure out

Janelle Monáe Addresses Her Sexuality, Comes Out as Pansexual

https://www.eonline.com/news/930113/janelle-monae-comes-out-as-pansexual-in-rolling-stone

JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

Some more catching up, been waking up late:

Senate panel approves bill to protect special counsel
"The vote marks the first time Congress has advanced legislation to formally protect Mueller from being fired by President Trump, who has railed against him in public and reportedly talked in private of dismissing him."
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/384990-senate-panel-approves-bill-to-protect-special-counsel

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This is what happens when you don't wear protection, a supposed germaphobe, likes having sex without a condom:
Attorney Michael Avenatti hints $1.6 million abortion payout was for Trump — not GOP donor
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/at...-million-abortion-payout-trump-not-gop-donor/

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

JB you posted a democrat Edited Fake news posting interview on Youtube of Fox and Friends here is the real one.

JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

offthehandle said:
JB you posted a democrat Edited Fake news posting interview on Youtube of Fox and Friends here is the real one.

Yes, and all that is in this one. Where do you think it came from? The full one is even worse.

mr-x · Apr 26, 2018

Liberals: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accepts $100,000,000 USD donation for UAE, meh.

Also Liberals: Candidate Trump mocks crippled reporter, BURN HIM!!!

offthehandle said:
All of that is embellished for entertainment purposes. He without sin, cast the first stone.

President Trump was elected by 50%. I didn't vote, but I respect the job he is doing and he is in office, and the office deserves respect. period. Like it or not. The hate level I keep seeing is sickening.

You make this sound like it's unique. Every politician has skeletons in their closet. Please. Obama sealed all his records and wasn't even born in the USA, fake President- that Arizona Police Captain proved it with fake documents, I posted a video of the signature forensics- you dismissed it without watching and call it conspiracy but you are blinded by hate.

Clinton was a unconvicted Rapist, he has a long history of abuse to women as pointed out by Mr X for months, not to mention corruption with his fake foundation. Untouchable HRC and her arrogance and Obama spied on the Trump campaign illegally with FISA- soon to be coming out more details.
And the other side- the Bushes and their family wealth and Nazi ties and the background with what I posted before is there- remember? Bush was a republican, lol. The Kennedy's power was born out of Bootlegging and Wallstreet Fraud, Ted let Marie Joe die. Romney Republican and his offshore tax avoidance. The Panama papers are loaded worldwide with tax dodger leadership worldwide. On and on. I am sure Reagan had issues and he was the most admired by the General public in recent history.

Trump ran and used his own money, and he interested in securing the border and making the middle class wealthier and manufacturing have some relief and trade imbalances and helping those most effected by the economic downturn caused by regulations by Obamarxism.

Unlike anyone else in the recent past.

Time will tell. I hope you sell some domain names for start up companies both of you, that might prove the economy is coming back.

It would be nice if the "Trump hate" would ease up in this thread. It's getting old. It's all about the money, and if the economy keeps up with positive vibes everybody wins.

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

DNWon said:
Impossible, it's all they got going over there on the left. No solutions, no bipartisanship (see DACA) just obstruction, dirty politics, smear campaigns and a ton of whining!

Yea, but let's try and be positive. Keep the faith. Keep the good news going! That Candace Owens thing was to me a real show stopper discovering her becoming a voice. I want to see smart common sense young people, with a discussion not an argument or programmed hate by their parents or whoever- like liberal school teachers on tenure. Ugh.

DNWon · Apr 26, 2018

Kate said:
He said he would drain the swamp

I couldn't disagree more with almost all of what you said,

he's at war with the press because of how unfair they are in their coverage day in and day out!
https://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-donald-trumps-first-100-days/

Kate said:
the American institutions (including the justice system),

He's at war with the Justice Department because they've been trying to f**k him since the election!
Can't wait for all of the Justice Departments corruption to be uncovered. It's historical!
https://www.investors.com/politics/...there-from-very-start-of-hillary-email-probe/

Kate said:
high turnover

Because he doesn't put up with leakers, backstabbers or people not doing their job, or doing it poorly!

Kate said:
so many incestuous business relationships and conflicts of interests

The guy owns approximately 500 business, there is going to be some overlap. He stepped away and his sons run it. What more could he possibly do?

Kate said:
The posters here would not tolerate a tenth of that coming from another party.

We put up with 8 years of Obama turning the other cheek to Isis and giving Iran billions and selling off our Uranium supply, amongst many other things and we're supposed to be unhappy with President Trump!

I couldn't be more proud of the job he's doing, his accomplishments thus far under great obstructionism from the left and I pray to God he gets re-elected! He's doing exactly what he was elected to do!

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

mr-x said:
Liberals: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton accepts $100,000,000 USD donation for UAE, meh.

Also Liberals: Candidate Trump mocks crippled reporter, BURN HIM!!!

You might add some more to the list. Both sides. Plenty of history, imagine you have more info that I on it. All I know is Politicians, the "professional ones" so many are liars. The Comey types who get a Gov't Job and can't be fired no matter their incompetency.

JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

offthehandle said:
Yea, but let's try and be positive. Keep the faith. Keep the good news going! That Candace Owens thing was to me a real show stopper discovering her becoming a voice. I want to see smart common sense young people, with a discussion not an argument or programmed hate by their parents or whoever- like liberal school teachers on tenure. Ugh.

You want to watch some fraud, who is working the right to get paid. Says racism is no longer a problem, has this on her Twitter - Victor mentality. But sued because somebody called her racist names and won a $37,500 settlement. haha. The people on the right are so easy to fool.

More reading for you - https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/local/article/An-open-letter-from-Candace-Owens-6872591.php

Mrs. racism doesn't exist anymore:

"They started off by telling me that they were going to kill me "just because" I was black. They warned me that if they found me at home, they were going to unload a bullet into the back of my head. They cited other "*****rs" who had died before me, like Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks. They threatened to “tar and feather” my family."

But she got 38k out of it.

Candace Owens, Who Thinks Racism Is All in the Past, Got Paid After Suing Over Racist Attacks
https://www.theroot.com/candace-owens-who-thinks-racism-is-all-in-the-past-go-1825536071

DNWon said:
Because he doesn't put up with leakers, backstabbers or people not doing their job, or doing it poorly!!

He picked them. You're admitting he has poor hiring practices.

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

JB Lions said:
You and your conspiracy nonsense.

What do you think Muellers investigation is? Conspiracy of the swamp to have status quo. The President is continually making all these Swamp creatures uncomfortable. 30% cut's to All Govt Employment are needed. Obama and others have now made Washington DC the wealth Capital- instead of places where products and services are produced. What does the Gov't do? create obstruction and paperwork, what do we need more FAR's for?????? It's maddening. Their sole mandate is to protect from threats foreign and domestic, not all these 375 departments of nonsense. I wish they would privatize the entire VA, and send it out for bid. Same with other departments like DHS. Bush in his wisdom of making those Govt jobs to inspect high heels on 70 year old ladies for explosives.... please. Idiocy.

The Gov't is a Cancerous growth that has too many "make work jobs" for incompetent people, who otherwise would be greeters at Walmart.

JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

offthehandle said:
What do you think Muellers investigation is? Conspiracy of the swamp to have status quo. The President is continually making all these Swamp creatures uncomfortable. 30% cut's to All Govt Employment are needed. Obama and others have now made Washington DC the wealth Capital- instead of places where products and services are produced. What does the Gov't do? create obstruction and paperwork, what do we need more FAR's for?????? It's maddening. Their sole mandate is to protect from threats foreign and domestic, not all these 375 departments of nonsense. I wish they would privatize the entire VA, and send it out for bid. Same with other departments like DHS. Bush in his wisdom of making those Govt jobs to inspect high heels on 70 year old ladies for explosives.... please. Idiocy.

The Gov't is a Cancerous growth that has too many "make work jobs" for incompetent people, who otherwise would be greeters at Walmart.

There have been indictments already, are you seriously unaware? Then, it's ongoing.

Then you rant about the government some more.

I did add some more reading for you in my last post, with links, about that fraud Candace you guys are getting excited about. Feel free to read them.

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

JB Lions said:
More reading for you - https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/local/article/An-open-letter-from-Candace-Owens-6872591.php

I don't see your point. She had that happen at 17 by her peers, it's awful. I read about it.

JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

offthehandle said:
I don't see your point. She had that happen at 17 by her peers, it's awful. I read about it.

You don't see my point? She says racism doesn't exist, but sues for racism. She's saying what you Conservatives like to hear. It's all good now, no more racism. Getting paid another way now. Straight fraud.

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

JB Lions said:
There have been indictments already, are you seriously unaware?

Hey totally unrelated to Trump's campaign. Yea, I make no excuses for tax evasion. None.

DNWon · Apr 26, 2018

offthehandle said:
I don't see your point. She had that happen at 17 by her peers, it's awful. I read about it.

What JB is saying is that because she speaks from a conservative viewpoint and abhors the left's victim mentality, the 38K she got as a settlement for a hate crime 11 years ago apparently makes her a fraud and everything she stands for today, is a ruse she is perpetrating on us foolish conservatives!

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

JB Lions said:
You don't see my point? She says racism doesn't exist, but sues for racism. She's saying what you Conservatives like to hear. It's all good now, no more racism. Getting paid another way now. Straight fraud.

If you were 17 and bullied like she was, you would have sued also.

I mentioned before that finally a young african american woman is speaking up for common sense. Racism will always exist, just not like it was post civil war until the 60's. She wasn't born in the Civil rights era, so she has no past issues. I mentioned that before. A clean slate. It's crazy you call her a fraud.

You don't believe her viewpoint, and that's fine. We can agree to disagree, I am very happy to see this as this voice in a biased democrat majority community needs a young leader that does not have a chip on the shoulder and wants nothing to do with the Maxine Moron reparations which is idiocy. Nobody today is responsible for things that happened 100+ years ago. I posted that other video I found yesterday too. These young people do have a voice as long as Youtube does not censor them, which is really becoming an issue.

JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

DNWon said:
What JB is saying is that because she speaks from a conservative viewpoint and abhors the left's victim mentality, the 38K she got as a settlement for a hate crime 11 years ago apparently makes her a fraud and everything she stands for today, is a ruse she is perpetrating on us foolish conservatives!

Candace - “We were children. I wasn’t the only victim.”

Yes, racism still exists. The right likes to hear black people say it doesn't. If you do, you'll be rewarded. Says blacks like to play the victim, when she called herself one and got paid.

offthehandle said:
If you were 17 and bullied like she was, you would have sued also.

Bullying is horrible, most don't sue tho.

It's not crazy I call her a fraud, because she is. I posted a longer post before today about it. She had some failed internet projects, like the bullying one mentioned in her article. So she turned to this.

Just read her Twitter account - https://twitter.com/realcandaceo?lang=en

Said we shouldn't listen to celebs, then posting about celebs all day long. Today it's John Legend. She's just trying to grow her business by pretending to be a Black Conservative. It's easy money in the Trump error.

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

DNWon said:
What JB is saying is that because she speaks from a conservative viewpoint and abhors the left's victim mentality, the 38K she got as a settlement for a hate crime 11 years ago apparently makes her a fraud and everything she stands for today, is a ruse she is perpetrating on us foolish conservatives!

I am not buying any of that 38K as an issue, she is really needed to lead people into assimilation- as opposed to separation. There are many african american's who are without fathers, without guidance and worship basketball players and drug dealers. It's horrible, and stereotypical- but Youtube gives all a voice and great to discover those who are not victims. There is nothing stopping many to get SBA Grants and SBIR grants to make a difference and start businesses, if they want to work.

I really dislike Kanye West's music, his entire gig with stupid Kardashians btw, I never thought he was talented, but I am an old man, and irrelevant to todays musicians. At least he helps give a voice to her spread her name, just like Diamond and Silk. Really is great to see all these people participating.

You ever see him botch up Bohemian Rhapsody out of tune at Glastonbury a couple years ago? Really was embarrassing.

JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

Sorry, straight fraud. She loves the celebrity attention, more money.

"OMG! Another big star who is smart to understand the very simple concept of FREE THINKING."

Candace Owens Retweeted Chance The Rapper

OMG! Another big star who is smart to understand the very simple concept of FREE THINKING. Thank you @chancetherapper for this tweet.

Candace Owens‏Verified account @RealCandaceO Apr 25

compare that to:

Dear Celebrities: NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK!!!

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

JB Lions said:
Bullying is horrible, most don't sue tho.

Why not? It's her right. People sue all the time for things. The Democratic Party (HIllary Party) is now suing the President et al- but the discovery process will allow things to be opened up. But I bet that Podunkyska will ruin the back up server so that never happens.

JB Lions · Apr 26, 2018

offthehandle said:
Why not? It's her right. People sue all the time for things. The Democratic Party (HIllary Party) is now suing the President et al- but the discovery process will allow things to be opened up. But I bet that Podunkyska will ruin the back up server so that never happens.

I agree it's her right but then you don't get on other people for it and for pointing out racism, that she went thru herself. That would make you a hypocrite, which she is.

Again, Conservatives love black people who day racism isn't an issue anymore. You disagree with that? You'll get propped up and rewarded, get Fox News interviews etc.

offthehandle · Apr 26, 2018

JB Lions said:
compare that to:

Dear Celebrities: NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK!!!

That's true, nobody but the sheep sitcom watching population care what Celebrities think really. All that BS from Roseanne the Republicans made a big deal of- who cares. Robert Deniro- old and irrelevant. Alec Baldwin same. Reiner Same. Name the Hollywood person same. Same with Kanye for me. But what I do like is his reach, to another audience that other Hollywood does not have in the African American Community, even if it makes 100 people realize they should be self reliant, that's a good thing.

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