discuss I have BEST DOMAIN NAME in the WORLD: Cryptᴏ.com (IDN)

Armageddon · Apr 26, 2018

From the start want to clarify one thing: i work with SEDO.com from 2011 & made here all my notable sale . This is a discussion about my domain not a disccusion about SEDO refuse (at this time, i don't know final answer) to list my domain in "Showcase domains"category . I will work always trough SEDO because IMO - i trust in them because it is the most secure platform any aspects . So let's go a little discussion about my domain..

is the BEST DOMAIN NAME in the WORLD as alternative for original NON IDN Crypto.com?
Cryptᴏ.com

is the BEST/ONLY alternative for original NON IDN Crypto.com

Not say me , say SEDO - According to SEDO.com team/customer support my domain Cryptᴏ.com (IDN) not possible to put on section "Showcase domains" on front page because is similar/show with/look like Crypto.com (NON IDN).
I paid 39 euro in 24 april 2018 for "Showcase domains" section only for English(US) language & waiting that my domain be publish in this section.
Domain should be listed in 25 april 2018 (delay time zone etc..) but still not show in section so decide to open a ticket . Surprise - in "My questions" have a ticket with title "Alternative for cryptᴏ.com" open/write by SEDO team . I replay with this answer "Yes is BEST alternative for crypto.com" & then call to customer office & a nice lady person tell me will investigate because ticket was open by "Selling Domains" department.
Until 26 april 2018 not receiving a answer - so replay again to ticket opened by SEDO (that is strange):
"When will be listed cryptᴏ.com in showcase domains on sedo.com?
I pay 2 days ago & see not publish
Please list the domain
Kind regards,
P.S. innovice in atachment" ( see attachment file here) & waiting 2-3 h & decide to call again to SEDO.com
A male person from customer answer, tell him about the problem & provide me this answer:
"not possible to put on section "Showcase domains" on front page because is similar/show with/look like Crypto.com & a potential buyer will not notice this domain (my domain) is a IDN" & if i received a email , tell him not recived any email with answer from SEDO.com
Told him that on SEDO are a lot of IDN including other domains with "crypto" give to him this example:
"https://sedo.com/search/details/?do...tId=257291357&origin=search&language=us&p=2_2 " + SEDO on every IDN domain listed have on right & below "Make an Offer or Buy Now" this memeo"
"You are about to bid on a domain name that contains special non-English characters (i.e. "ä","ö","ü","á","é", "í") and is an INTERNATIONALIZED DOMAIN (IDN)" . Operator reply to me in my case not apply & repet again : "not possible to put on section "Showcase domains" on front page because is similar/show with/look like Crypto.com & a potential buyer.." bla bla
"This is strange for me..i don't understand" i tell to refund my money to my Paypal account & say will do and we close conversation.
After only few minutes decide to call again & this time was the nice lady (i think is kind a superviser) & talk about my problem, she say listen all my convo with previous person & my case will go future to supervisor department & contact me short is possible with a answer possitive ( listed in showcase domains) or negative ( refund money) .
I think all phone convo are registred for prove.
I ask that the final answer to be send via my email . So now i wait the answer & also opinion of Namepros community about my domain: "is the BEST DOMAIN NAME in the WORLD as alternative for original NON IDN Crypto.com?" & how much should i sell, price..Matt Blaze recived $30 millions for his Crypto.com..

Kind regards,
Ovi

P.S. Show me the money

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Apr 26, 2018

omarte said:
The problem is not arabic, chinese... the problem is mixing a language letters with another!

As I wrote, if it is described in its details, then there is no problem, it's simply a mixed IDN.

mr-x · Apr 26, 2018

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI said:
As I wrote, if it is described in its details, then there is no problem, it's simply a mixed IDN.

If you have to explain how to spell a domain, you're doing to wrong.

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Apr 26, 2018

mr-x said:
If you have to explain how to spell a domain, you're doing to wrong.

Not really, they are simply made for those who like them.
Like art.

It's always possible that somone want's to buy a domain just to own it for his enjoyment or as an investment (like an art - collector buys art to own it for his enjoyment or as an investment) because he finds it attractive, no matter how "complicated" / expensive it is.

Not "every domain" is made for "everyone", I also don't like every domain - but I have no problem with those I don't like.

Fancy.domains · Apr 26, 2018

My very own opinion:

IDNs that are totally visible and creates words in another language: Great!
IDNs that are created to make people think / guess it is another word: Scammy!

mr-x · Apr 26, 2018

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI said:
Not really, they are simply made for those who like them.
Like art.

It's always possible that somone want's to buy a domain just to own it for his enjoyment or as an investment (like an art - collector buys art to own it for his enjoyment or as an investment) because he finds it attractive, no matter how "complicated" / expensive it is.

Not "every domain" is made for "everyone", I also don't like every domain - but I have no problem with those I don't like.

There's a seat for every ass.

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Apr 26, 2018

Fancy.domains said:
My very own opinion:

IDNs that are totally visible and includes meaning in a language: Great!
IDNs that are created to make people think / guess it is another word: Scammy!

I agree - but only if the "lookalike" - IDN is not clearly described* as a "lookalike" - IDN.
If it is clearlyyy described* as a "lookalike" - IDN, then it is simplyyy a genius domain which has nothing to do with scammy intentions, also not if it looks exactlyyy like the "original" (non - IDN).

*On it's offerpage / website / ...

Peak.Domains · Apr 26, 2018

This is a great endorsement of the incredible patience of the folks at Sedo

Mary Muse · Apr 26, 2018

Fancy.domains said:
My very own opinion:

IDNs that are totally visible and creates words in another language: Great!
IDNs that are created to make people think / guess it is another word: Scammy!

This -- entirely.

If the IDN isn't smack-you-in-the-face-obvious, then you're trying to pull a fast one, and are a piece of garbage.

SuperDudePro · Apr 26, 2018

The title of the thread is: I have best domain name in the world. If the name really was crypto.com, you could make the argument that today it is one of the most valuable.

Nobody, not even you, could argue with a straight face that your IDN is one of the top 10,000 in the world.

I think that is where your post went wrong, with the intention and the title.

I also agree that Sedo was right. Why would they want to bring that possible mess upon their own heads?

Armageddon · Apr 27, 2018

"Pretty good in the present climate. Imma gonna watch this one" not say me ( obvious not Trump)
it's say a well known domainer in the world (few millions $ in sale) & also read my post on Namepros & also know is a IDN
...the difference between a "turtle" domain and true domainer (capable to read carefully an article + the vaule of domain even is IDN)

Peak.Domains · Apr 27, 2018

With all due respect, this whole ordeal is kind of hurting your credibility, and probabally isn't a very wise business decision, if nothing else. It's not too late to pretend you were just joking about this whole thing...

Armageddon · Apr 27, 2018

PotatoeSalad said:
With all due respect, this whole ordeal is kind of hurting your credibility, and probabally isn't a very wise business decision, if nothing else. It's not too late to pretend you were just joking about this whole thing...

Why? because other people see potential & other don't?
Why? because SEDO basic say in this word "is identic & alternative with crypto.com but is a IDN)
I don't think is a reason in this to hurting my credibility . It's a free market (at general mode) if you pay you have the domain ( & just for the record - i managed domin names portfolios for another 2 people - acces registrat, access marketplaces etc. so who knows me can trust in me - domains & money)
& notice my title was change "I have BEST DOMAIN NAME in the WORLD: Cryptᴏ.com (IDN)" now must be happy all & more clear then a day what domain i have

BRANDERX · Apr 27, 2018

Backorder-ing.com said:
Why? because other people see potential & other don't?
Why? because SEDO basic say in this word "is identic & alternative with crypto.com but is a IDN)
I don't think is a reason in this to hurting my credibility . It's a free market (at general mode) if you pay you have the domain ( & just for the record - i managed domin names portfolios for another 2 people - acces registrat, access marketplaces etc. so who knows me can trust in me - domains & money)

just curious, what are you looking to get out of it? hundreds? thousands? millions?

Armageddon · Apr 27, 2018

"just curious, what are you looking to get out of it? hundreds? thousands? millions?" i have no idea . A potential buyer/a sale will decide this . Lot of IDN sold in past with good money

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Apr 27, 2018

The moral part (which is of course the most important one) of matters like this one is actuallyyy very simple.

If a "copy" (of whatever) is presented as "original", there is clearlyyy a problem.
But if a "copy" (of whatever) is presented as a "copy", then there is nooo problem.

So, in case of your IDN (and generally IDNs), [B]@Sedo[/B] simply could have placed your IDN into their showcase, directly labeled with "IDN" (directly beside the IDN, directly in the showcase) - in my eyes this could be the solution for "SEDO / IDN / SHOWCASE" - matters.

Armageddon · Apr 27, 2018

And what? Do you think will change all platform (will be a huge effort) just for me - (first case of its kind or never be done before)?. This is a unique case
Good comment illuminati

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Apr 27, 2018

Backorder-ing.com said:
And what? Do you think will change all platform (will be a huge effort) just for me - (first case of its kind or never be done before)?. This is a unique case
Good comment illuminati

I really don't think the effort would be that much, at the end it's their business.

At one side you praise my comment, at the other side you still have no "IDN" in your title / no punycode in your opening post, it's contradictory.

I absolutely don't want to insinuate you a "bad intention" - but as others wrote it already, it's not good for your reputation to not show this ("IDN" in title / punycode in description).
At the end it would help everyone, including yourself, believe it.

Because, I can just repeat it, and we all knowww it:

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI said:
If a "copy" (of whatever) is presented as "original", there is clearlyyy a problem.
But if a "copy" (of whatever) is presented as a "copy", then there is nooo problem.

I am not saying that you are presenting a "copy" (in your case a domain) as "original" - but it can indeed easyyy be seen so as long as your title doesn't include "IDN" and as long as there is no punycode of it stated in the description.

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Apr 27, 2018

PotatoeSalad said:
This is a great endorsement of the incredible patience of the folks at Sedo

The same here, it's their business.
If a domain is registrable, it actually should be considered as "showcaseable", if it is an IDN then simply labeled as "IDN".

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Apr 27, 2018

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI said:
I really don't think the effort would be that much, at the end it's their business.

At one side you praise my comment, at the other side you still have no "IDN" in your title / no punycode in your opening post, it's contradictory.

I absolutely don't want to insinuate you a "bad intention" - but as others wrote it already, it's not good for your reputation to not show this ("IDN" in title / punycode in description).
At the end it would help everyone, including yourself, believe it.

Because, I can just repeat it, and we all knowww it:

I am not saying that you are presenting a "copy" (in your case a domain) as "original" - but it can indeed easyyy be seen so as long as your title doesn't include "IDN" and as long as there is no punycode of it stated in the description.

EDIT
In the meanwhile you have the "IDN" in your title, well done.
But I am still missing the punycode of your IDN in the description.
The point is not that I don't know how to find it out - the point is that I want to get it "delivered" from the owner (you) becasue you "delivered" the IDN too.

wot · Apr 27, 2018

IDNS that use mixed script to create a "word" that looks like the real word are designed for one reason and that is to confuse and no other reason. Very close to fraudulent in fact.

They pop up on regular occasions often catching out even seasoned investors. Sedo have been advised on many occasions of this type of "domain" that is not any recognized language but for some reason they also seem confused and unable to make the suitable decisions, usually financial connotations.iIn this case they got it right.

This is nothing new, simply a reworking of what is more than borderline scam material however it may be tarted up or packaged.
Numerous threads on this forum relating to the same thing- nothing new.

Simply hope you don't catch out the unwary which I guess that is what you are trying to do.Should be well and truly indexed by now so that should help prevent a few from falling for it.

wot · Apr 27, 2018

Fancy.domains said:
My very own opinion:

IDNs that are totally visible and creates words in another language: Great!
IDNs that are created to make people think / guess it is another word: Scammy!

An opinion I share 100%.

eurorealtor · Apr 27, 2018

wot said:
IDNS that use mixed script to create a "word" that looks like the real word are designed for one reason and that is to confuse and no other reason. Very close to fraudulent in fact.

They pop up on regular occasions often catching out even seasoned investors. Sedo have been advised on many occasions of this type of "domain" that is not any recognized language but for some reason they also seem confused and unable to make the suitable decisions, usually financial connotations.iIn this case they got it right.

This is nothing new, simply a reworking of what is more than borderline scam material however it may be tarted up or packaged.
Numerous threads on this forum relating to the same thing- nothing new.

Simply hope you don't catch out the unwary which I guess that is what you are trying to do.Should be well and truly indexed by now so that should help prevent a few from falling for it.

I am pretty sure, thank's to you, Sedo is more responsible to list IDN's now

Lots of newbies had fall for this kind of "fancy" looking crap, just few years back.

DOMAIN ILLUMINATI · Apr 27, 2018

To all those, who see IDNs, which look exactlyyy like "normal" letter - domains, principally / generally as "scamy", let me tell you this:

There are real, natural plants and there are unreal, artificial "plants" - made just for the reason to look like real, natural plants - and they are produced without any scamy intention - because they are offered / sold as what they are - namely as "unreal, artificial plants which look like real, natural plants".

Here is an example with real, natural bambus and unreal, artificial "bambus":

The point is, that it's always only the offerer / seller, who is responsible how / as what he offers his commodity.
But the commodity itself is / remains only the commodity.

So there is indeed no reason to see an unreal, artificial "bambus", which look exactly like a real, natural bambus, as a "scamy commodity".

In case of domains its exactly the same - if a domain - offerer / seller offers an IDN which look exactly like a "normal" - letter - domain as "what it is" - namely as an "IDN which look exactly like a "normal" - letter - domain", then this is 100 % no scamyyy

So IDNs, which look like "normal" - letter - domains" are principiallyyy / generallyyy 100 % absolutelyyy OK ✔

Michael Ehrhardt · Apr 28, 2018

☀ IDN NONSENSE ☀

check this :

☆ a.com = a.com ( latin a )REGULAR

☆ а.com = xn—80a.com ( cyrillic a) IDN

More here

https://www.namepros.com/threads/idn-nonsense.855363/

The www was created by Tim Berners-Lee

Michael Ehrhardt · Apr 28, 2018

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