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I read a headline: Fake Veto. There you go JB, you can laugh as your dems loaded this with all sorts of new spend, spend, spend. Excuse is shutdown (who cares, swamp should work overtime) military budget increases, opioid, included swamp pay bonus, sick disgusting mess. 1.3 trillion to keep doors open only til September.

All 2232 pages.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CPRT-115HPRT29374/pdf/CPRT-115HPRT29374.pdf

Great news.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018...er-clinton-investigation-mccabe-firing-481505

People like Bolton or Pompeo are scary. Who is going to moderate these guys when the commander in chief himself needs supervision from adults ?

I was starting to get worried about you @Kate after last nights game? Hope you're feeling better today?

I am doing fine. It's Friday

mr-x said:

We don't hate Stormy D. We're tired of your hypocrisy, reveling in the story.

Your not changing anyone mind or engaging in debate, your national enquirer rushing to repeat any "report" or "allegation" that aligns with your personal animus for DT

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Didn't rush anything and no hypocrisy on my part, you keep lying about that just reflects poorly on you. You just copied me on that.

One good thing, I don't think Karen McDougal is an issue. She pretty much gave the whole story last night. She's a Republican, voted for Trump, found Jesus, now working in the ministry. So just Stormy left and the other one suing him for defamation.

Catching up on other news now.

offthehandle said:

I read a headline: Fake Veto. There you go JB, you can laugh as your dems loaded this with all sorts of new spend, spend, spend. Excuse is shutdown (who cares, swamp should work overtime) military budget increases, opioid, included swamp pay bonus, sick disgusting mess. 1.3 trillion to keep doors open only til September.

All 2232 pages.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CPRT-115HPRT29374/pdf/CPRT-115HPRT29374.pdf

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Read it and give us the breakdown. Trump is President, signed it, so the spending is on him. I know somebody who can't be bothered to read a 10 page security report isn't reading any of this. Still reading more about this at various places.

Ah, he mentioned vetoing this thing. No he's not. I guess this is it:

I think I'm caught up now on this bill, correct me if I'm wrong.

This morning threatens to veto bill.

Later signs the bill.

In doing so says stuff like:

"A lot of things I'm unhappy about."

"Never will sign a bill like this again, nobody read it."

Now he's getting roasted by his own people, people in this very thread, Republicans for signing it.

Funding for 33 miles of a 1,989 miles border. So he just needs funding for the other 1956, minus the natural barriers.

This is the guy who says does great deals? Can't read it, but can play golf all day long.

"The tanker aircraft is very important, based on... everything."

"Very hard, very long but very quick"

I can't take all this winning.

CONGRATULATIONS, PRESIDENT SCHUMER!

MASSIVE DEFENSE SPENDING to induct transgenders & build BIG BEAUTIFUL walls ... in Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, and Tunisia.

GOOD GOD! Will @realDonaldTrump talk about ANYTHING but defense spending???? Per Obama: The 1980s called & they want their foreign policy back.

Ann Coulter ✔ @AnnCoulter
1:30 PM - Mar 23, 2018

Dang, Coulter is roasting Donny.

What else is happening. Looks like more Trump lawyers are abandoning ship:

CNN is reporting Trump’s new attorney for Mueller work is no longer convinced he is the right person for the job after a meeting yesterday. My god.
Adam Parkhomenko‏Verified account @AdamParkhomenko

1:19 PM - 23 Mar 2018

He said it was a win for the military so he signed it

When you build something long you develop the method then to make it as efficient as possible. Then you step up the build. So the first 33 is important

Here is a start to researching Bolton

Trump's New National Security Advisor John Bolton Has Links to Cambridge Analytica
http://time.com/5212071/john-bolton-cambridge-analytica/

John Bolton’s Anti-Muslim Hate
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...bigot-hate-groups_us_5ab52bf2e4b008c9e5f6f1f9

johname said:

He said it was a win for the military so he signed it

When you build something long you develop the method then to make it as efficient as possible. Then you step up the build. So the first 33 is important

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Doesn't have the votes for the rest of it. So in the end, this will just make him look silly. If my calculations are correct, that leaves 98.4% of the border left.

This Bolton guy is going to get us into something, distraction for Trump. So who are we going to bomb? Who are the leading candidates right now? Iran?

"This would be like Reagan signing a bill that hiked taxes, slashed defense spending -- but spent gobs of $$ on the Teapot Dome scandal."

“ I will never sign another bill like this again” Yeah, because you’ll be impeached.
Ann Coulter‏Verified account @AnnCoulter 2h2 hours ago

Iran or North Korea.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-legal-case-for-striking-north-korea-first-1519862374

For Trump supporters. Military action somewhere. Yay or Nay? If Yay, where?

Is this something you would support, something you wouldn't care about, last straw in supporting Trump? Would have to wait for details, reasons for new military action? Just where are you guys at with this?

I'm at no, and I don't think anything will actually happen. But you never know with him. He did tweet this:

Polls are starting to look really bad for Obama. Looks like he'll have to start a war or major conflict to win. Don't put it past him!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

That's why I don't think it will happen, it would be too obvious and people would bring this tweet up and some others. They would get hammered on this.

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johname said:

He said it was a win for the military so he signed it

When you build something long you develop the method then to make it as efficient as possible. Then you step up the build. So the first 33 is important

Here is a start to researching Bolton

Trump's New National Security Advisor John Bolton Has Links to Cambridge Analytica
http://time.com/5212071/john-bolton-cambridge-analytica/

John Bolton’s Anti-Muslim Hate
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...bigot-hate-groups_us_5ab52bf2e4b008c9e5f6f1f9

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Hot takes on the latest boogie men right on time.

JB Lions said:

Read it and give us the breakdown. Trump is President, signed it, so the spending is on him. I know somebody who can't be bothered to read a 10 page security report isn't reading any of this. Still reading more about

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Not just him, the entire swamp were off packing suitcases and Easter Egg hunts in prep of next week.

Ok, so spent most of the day on the PDF. I never ever read a budget before, inaccessible in the past, not of interest, no time, etc. So my initial takeaway are all sorts of huge budgets I don’t understand what overhead they carry. As a domainer I am mildly familiar with the USPTO office. This agency has a $3.5 Billion budget. They charge for services too, so quite surprised.

Foreign Aid programs started in 1961 still exist. Nobody cut them down? Wtf.

$1.3 Billion to Egypt alone, *if* they behave. No idea who receives money or for what.

Yet, only $1.5 billion to Navy and Marines facilities, equipment, etc.

Veterans Benefits $95 billion, with $5 billion of than on IT services. So computer overhaul budget is higher than the US Navy facilities, etc. ? DOD

Meanwhile huge problems in the US homeless.

The EU protection fund is really huge. A few years back with the Crimea incident, the US babysitting the EU territory European Deterrence Initiative is now a huge $$$ multi billion program. $5.7 billion covered in one segment did not cover all tie ins. I have no idea if the EU has equal $ to Euro contribution. Probably not. This is in addition to NATO!

I added up roughlly $12 billion in state dept foreign giveaway programs for ancient 1961 laws. Dozens of organizations I’ve never heard of. Haven’t even gotten into domestic programs yet.

JB Lions said:

Didn't rush anything and no hypocrisy on my part, you keep lying about that just reflects poorly on you. You just copied me on that.

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You call Trump's ego fragile... I've heard better arguments from my kids.

mr-x said:

You call Trump's ego fragile... I've heard better arguments from my kids.

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? I'm not sure what you're confused on. Trump and his affairs, you always say hypocrisy, which never made any sense. This is very simple, it's why I don't understand why you struggle:

Trump affairs = bad

Clinton affairs = bad

Anybody cheating on their wife = bad

So where is the hypocrisy?

This crap again:

Trump bans most transgender Americans from serving in the military
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...icans-from-serving-in-the-military/ar-BBKCUso

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Also this reads like there actually won't be any new wall at all:

"But Trump's claim — that the $1.6 billion triggers work starting on the wall he's promised — is false. The funds earmarked for border protection construction and improvements can only be used to repair and build previously-approved fencing, according to the bill. There is $38 million in funds earmarked for their planning and design of border walls, but none for the construction of a new kind of wall like the prototypes Trump recently toured in San Diego."


Trump says work on his border wall starts Monday. It doesn't.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/fact...starts-monday-it-doesnt/ar-BBKCru1?li=BBnb7Kz

To all the Trump Haters:

offthehandle said:

To all the Trump Haters:

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It seems the Trump supporters are the ones getting more offended from people just pointing out obvious problems with him.

This school district’s plan to stop shooters: Arming students with a bucket of rocks

http://wnep.com/2018/03/22/superint...rmed-with-rocks-in-case-of-a-school-shooting/

Something to celebrate today:

Its already started.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...rump-border-wall-begins-construction-calexico