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mr-x · Mar 23, 2018

TDLR: is a bill written under the guise of stopping sex trafficking, has stripped away the protection of section 230 of the Communications act of 1934 which means companies that run web services will soon be responsible for the actions of their users, even if they are unaware of them, to the point of criminal charges that could result in up to 25 years in prison. This seems possibly to apply retroactively, meaning websites could be punished for stuff their users did, before this became a law.

Craigslist has removed their personals section,
https://www.craigslist.org/about/FOSTA

Reddit purging anything that might get them in trouble.

EFF.org:
Frankenstein Bill Combines the Worst of SESTA and FOSTA. Tell Your Representative to Reject New Version of H.R. 1865.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/fosta-would-be-disaster-online-communities

Lifted from "imgur.com/gallery/LJAeNVY"

Michael M · Mar 23, 2018

I saw that on my twitter feed this morning... Craigslist has taken down their personals section in response from what I saw and I heard dating sites are considering what repercussions this will have on them.

I have not researched the law yet to know enough to speak about it. I have heard it was made to target sites like BackPage (I think it was) that supposedly aids in human trafficking.

While I think there definitely should be something should be done to help police these types of activities on the internet - I will need to read more into the law before I have any opinion on rather it is over-reaching or not.

deez007 · Mar 23, 2018

Madness, absolute madness.

On the same logic, the US federal reserve should be held accountable for the actions of their users, even if they are unaware of them.

- So if someone uses money to pay for drugs then the US federal reserve should be held accountable for providing the tools for the transaction to be completed.

Oh well, it's all good..soon it will all be decentralized.

mr-x · Mar 23, 2018

I think there is a clause, "knowingly" that would protect website owners from a malicous user but seems to break an open Internet.

Could put a damper on innovation if you have to worry about how any user will use / abuse your app.

Kate · Mar 23, 2018

The Cloud Act was passed too, which is equally bad. As always, government granting itself exorbitant rights while restricting your own.

creataweb · Mar 23, 2018

Time to take down all the dating sites in that case.

clasione · Mar 24, 2018

I read the changes of the specific law text and at least the truth is, from what I could tell, the law was only changed for very specific types of cases that really do involve trafficking, so unless your involved in that sort of thing, you should not need to worry too much from these specific changes. I hate change and I prefer power to the website operator, but this may have been a necessary change, in defense of the mission.

offthehandle · Mar 27, 2018

Did you see this?

“The law, which covers digital publications and social media, would apply to offenders outside Malaysia, including foreigners, if Malaysia or a Malaysian citizen were affected.“

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...to-10-years-fines-for-fake-news-idUSKBN1H20FM

mr-x · Mar 27, 2018

CNN journo's better think twice before visiting MY

offthehandle · Mar 27, 2018

mr-x said:
CNN journo's better think twice before visiting MY

Funny, isn’t that the truth. As you pointed out with the US law, in the future is this goal to silencing dissidents everywhere?, It seems to a trend. The GDRP in the EU being imposed around the world imo, is ridiculous just like this is. To me, such laws should be regional only. What country would cooperate and allow a foreign country to extradite their own citizens? All? A few? International censorship laws? The subject disturbs me looking at the entire world as though it is one jurisdiction on non criminal matters, where the line is drawn, etc.

dna · Mar 28, 2018

Section 230 of the Communications Act didn't give any protection to Ross Ulbricht.
So what good was it anyways?

DomainRecap · Mar 28, 2018

clasione said:
I read the changes of the specific law text and at least the truth is, from what I could tell, the law was only changed for very specific types of cases

The problem with these scenarios, is that the bill may be created with the best intentions but there are always people in authority who will bastardize and abuse it.

One day you're running a website and the next your home is being invaded by a JSOC team because some user posted a funny picture of Donald Trump.

biggie · Mar 28, 2018

DomainRecap said:
One day you're running a website and the next your home is being invaded by a JSOC team because some user posted a funny picture of Donald Trump.

all pictures of Trump are funny looking

imo....

mr-x · Mar 28, 2018

dna said:
Section 230 of the Communications Act didn't give any protection to Ross Ulbricht.
So what good was it anyways?

I seem to remember a murder plot .

mr-x · Mar 28, 2018

DomainRecap said:
The problem with these scenarios, is that the bill may be created with the best intentions but there are always people in authority who will bastardize and abuse it.

One day you're running a website and the next your home is being invaded by a JSOC team because some user posted a funny picture of Donald Trump.

Problem with our US system, Congress lets bureaucrats interpret laws. Unless the law is narrowly written, chances are good it will expand.

dnk · Apr 11, 2018

In India, internet is heavily censored, only positive news is preferred

dna · Aug 6, 2018

You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

Kate · Aug 6, 2018

It hurts when you are the egg.

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