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Nissan the car company never really cared who Uzi Nissan was. Then it decided he had something it wanted very much—the website www.nissan.com, which he created for his small retail computer business in 1994—and it sued him for $10 million. When the two Nissans went to war, Uzi Nissan prevailed in the end but lost almost everything along the way. more here
 
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When you win you lose, what a story. This should be a reminder to all domainer to let go of ego and be free.

I will buy all your premium names for $1, thank you very much.
 
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When you win you lose, what a story. This should be a reminder to all domainer to let go of ego and be free.

I will buy all your premium names for $1, thank you very much.
I pay $2
 
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Is this a feel good story?

I feel bad for all parties involved; lots of money spent on both sides and not a happy resolution for either party.

They should have gone to mediation, worked out a price, and been done with it.
 
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Is this a feel good story?

I feel bad for all parties involved; lots of money spent on both sides and not a happy resolution for either party.

They should have gone to mediation, worked out a price, and been done with it.

Exactly. Common sense isn’t always common.
 
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Fucking corporations ~ the greedy mentality of these founders is appalling ... If they just picked up the phone and had called the guy and offered him $1M he probably would have sold it ... But they had to fucking sue him for 10 times that and watch this guy go through hell to get his own name ... Insane
 
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f*cking corporations ~ the greedy mentality of these founders is appalling ... If they just picked up the phone and had called the guy and offered him $1M he probably would have sold it ... But they had to f*cking sue him for 10 times that and watch this guy go through hell to get his own name ... Insane

And remember Amazon, Google, Apple, Youtube, Facebook are no different right now in their greed as they gather up more power, influence, user base, data scaping and collection, they want to dominate the world and doing a great job at it. If you have websites and cross any of them, poof... you are gone.
 
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He had heart to fight, it's admirable. But yes he lost everything really - as time moved on the computer market did as well...so as he said, business and his business tied to his name became basically useless. All the fees, the emotional toll....he would've done better to sell the name off for a hefty profit, forgo the court bs, and re brand himself another way with the money he gained and reground himself. Now he's left with a domain that does not have the offer initially, his business tied to it is dead, etc.
 
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Took one for the team, plus has badass name - Uzi Nissan
 
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Yup. I see this often with outsourcing SEO and PPC. A lot of companies spend more money on bad work rather than just hiring people in-house.

How this makes sense is beyond me.

Did you get a bonus? :)

When I became a Tax Manager for a large company, they had ongoing dispute with tax authorities lasting years. They were using one of the Big Firms and we kept exchanging official letters with the authorities. I cut them off, negotiated directly with the authorities and audit was completed in 2 weeks with a very small settlement paid (less than we were paying the firm). The next audit the following year lasted only a week and we already had a great working relationship.

I saw clear conflict of interest and acted: my company wanted the distraction to end fast, cheap and without creating bad precedent. The firm clearly had no incentive to end a well paid by hour job.

That would require smart people to work at the corporate level. Rarely the case.

Is this a feel good story?

I feel bad for all parties involved; lots of money spent on both sides and not a happy resolution for either party.

They should have gone to mediation, worked out a price, and been done with it.
 
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Very sad stroy but we'll fought, the car company lost nothing, but the owner of domain lost everything.

Who the fuck of that European domain broker, I don't think he tried anything to sell that domain to company, if he tried his best may be the person saved his lots of health, Money & offcourse time.
 
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I know a lot of people's opinion is that he was better off selling. But I admire that he stood for what was right no matter what. I hate bullies. The fact that he took this head-on despite the several personal loses, gets a thumbs up from me.
 
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Well.. Looks like Domains now need additional Lawsuit insurances.

Maybe the registrars should start selling it. You never know which bigshot oil-funded mechanical-head idiot-driven scumbag-funded corporation will come for your domain and UDRP eventually drag you into a digital brawl :glasses:
 
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Nissan the car company never really cared who Uzi Nissan was. Then it decided he had something it wanted very much—the website www.nissan.com, which he created for his small retail computer business in 1994—and it sued him for $10 million. When the two Nissans went to war, Uzi Nissan prevailed in the end but lost almost everything along the way. more here

Best article I have read in many a year

Extremely useful
 
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He didn't win. Massive negative loss

“I would have let it go first day if I knew what I would have to go through, and what it would do to me and my family,” Uzi told Jalopnik. “I was driven 99.9 percent out of business.”

He lost time, His health deteriorated, stress increased 1000 fold, The business he built is dead in the water and all he has now is a domain and people patting him on the back saying wow you beat a big conglomerate.

16 years of life down the pan

To classify that as victory is nothing short of absurd.

Ha! Sums it up.
 
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The Jalopnik writer of the article apparently forgot to mention about the automobile advertising links. I am not sure why this were omitted because it's a decent article.

Because the author's only source of information was Mr. Nissan, who is unlikely to discuss that this case was more complex than his heroic re-tellings of it.

Additionally, I have never seen a piece of protracted litigation in which the parties did not, in parallel with the proceedings, exchange confidential settlement positions. Given that Mr. Nissan at one time had volunteer lawyers working on the case, it is difficult in the extreme to believe there were not settlement discussions in which numbers were exchanged.
 
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the website www.nissan.com, which he created for his small retail computer business in 1994—and it sued him for $10 million.
Uzi Nissan deserve some respect from domainers!! Uzi did not get intimidated by a world wide car company with billions of dollars in their pocket.
Uzi should now Raise the price of the domain to at least $ 100 Million USD. But it appears he did not want to sell his domain, and that's where he is wrong.

He should Just sell the domain for Millions and be Happy!
 
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Uzi Nissan deserve some respect from domainers!

For what? Picking a good last name? I doubt he had anything to do with that.

He overplayed his hand and they walked away from the table.
 
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I suppose he ended up with more than "$750 and a free Armani suit"!!

I would think so as well. I would also think that if Mr. Mani was unable to reach an agreement with them, he'd still have the domain name.

I have seen situations in which a domain registrant prevails in a UDRP and subsequently develops unreasonable ideas about what the claimant might be willing to pay to obtain the domain name. While, sure, there is a premium on prevailing in a dispute, it's not as if there is a pool of buyers for a name like nissan.com.

From the outside, we really don't know what settlement conversations there may have been along the way or what conversations may have been ongoing since. Settlement discussions during a dispute are confidential, so there's just no window into what may or may not have gone on. I have no particular insight into what went on, but it is a certainty that whatever Mr. Nissan spent on the protracted litigation, the car company likely spent more on it, and likely made their own calculation as to what has been economically rational for them.


If they just picked up the phone and had called the guy and offered him $1M he probably would have sold it


The courts had ordered mediations for the two parties to meet and reach a settlement three times during the complete run of the case, Uzi told Jalopnik, and while the automaker’s offer increased each time, it was never enough to settle things for Uzi.


They had three court-ordered mediations. That's unusual. Notice that while Mr. Nissan told the reporter, as the docket reflects, they had mediation sessions, Mr. Nissan is silent about what numbers were exchanged.
 
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I would think so as well. I would also think that if Mr. Mani was unable to reach an agreement with them, he'd still have the domain name.

I have seen situations in which a domain registrant prevails in a UDRP and subsequently develops unreasonable ideas about what the claimant might be willing to pay to obtain the domain name. While, sure, there is a premium on prevailing in a dispute, it's not as if there is a pool of buyers for a name like nissan.com.

From the outside, we really don't know what settlement conversations there may have been along the way or what conversations may have been ongoing since. Settlement discussions during a dispute are confidential, so there's just no window into what may or may not have gone on. I have no particular insight into what went on, but it is a certainty that whatever Mr. Nissan spent on the protracted litigation, the car company likely spent more on it, and likely made their own calculation as to what has been economically rational for them.

The courts had ordered mediations for the two parties to meet and reach a settlement three times during the complete run of the case, Uzi told Jalopnik, and while the automaker’s offer increased each time, it was never enough to settle things for Uzi.

They had three court-ordered mediations. That's unusual. Notice that while Mr. Nissan told the reporter, as the docket reflects, they had mediation sessions, Mr. Nissan is silent about what numbers were exchanged.

Looks like Mr. Nissan was either fighting for this Name-Brand or wanted even more than the un-disclosed amount of money.
 
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The more I read this, the guy really lost. This is not an asset to anyone but him now any longer, who else would dare touch it or want to buy it? The UDRP black cloud hanging over it too for the next buyer. Here, you have one deep pockets customer only and since he was unable to arbitrate it through, lost $3 million not including his time and energy. Even if another Nissan boats or planes, etc. comes along, they wouldn’t neccesarily value it as a brand like Nissan motors, so they probably would pay less. It would be brand confusion for other Nissans as well. He could sell it to others though to spite Nissan Motors I suppose. I bet his kids or heirs sell it someday to Nissan Motors.
 
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I bet his kids or heirs sell it someday to Nissan Motors.
Uzi Nissan kids wont even pay the renewal fee, the domain will drop, any of the dropcatch website will caught it and resell it for good money to Nissan motor company.

Uzi Nissan is a perfect story for a Harvard Business case! lol
 
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I wonder how much Armani paid to A.R. Mani.

I suppose he ended up with more than "$750 and a free Armani suit"!!

I see, he sold it. Resolves to worldwide websites for Armani. Well, hopefully more than $2000. + $10k legal fees.
 
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wow priceline existed in 1999?
 
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