.eu What is the future of .EU domains?

gprod · Feb 1, 2018

Usually I see lot of offers for good domain names, inc. one word domains with .EU
I was checked the sales on namebio.com - and find that .EU is not so popular, only Sedo and Golem are the marketplaces with reported sales...

What's the problem with this gTLD?

I see people said:
- Google doesn't like .EU's;
- European Union is not a country - there everyone speaks his own language;
- It's hard to register .EU domain because it's needs EU addres...

What is your opinion?
Do you have .EU in your portfolio?
Do you have a kinf of sales with .EU?

boker · Feb 4, 2018

Kate said:
What many people fail to realize is that EEA members countries are almost members of the EU de facto.
They have to contribute to the EU budget, accept freedom of movement for persons, follow a good chunk of the EU regulations and acquis communautaire, without having a say on the matter. Because EEA was designed as a transit status rather than a permanent status... Obviously their sovereignty is curtailed under such rules. They have to align their legislation and abide by rules made by others.
Also they are not free to sign trade deals with third countries but they benefit from the trade deals the EU negotiates on behalf of members.
This is the price to pay to enjoy the benefits of free trade with the EU.
Which means the UK may be heading for a Canada-type agreement and will leave the framework in order to negotiate trade deals independently.

But at least the EEA countries can buy .eu domains

I am not disputing that. What I said is that EU is rather unpopular, but the majority of people want to remain nonetheless.
If the EU was more popular (it used to be more popular), then maybe .eu would get more traction.

I agree with everything, but what it's not said is that the trade agreement with Canada it will be just provisionally applied, because it has to ratified by each of the 27 national legislatures and if just one of them will oppose, it will not work fully and the same goes for UK, any agreement will need to be ratified by everybody and with all the animosities, the agreement should give a full list of advantages to each EU country to be ratified...I have the impression that in some regards the new agreement will be even worse than being part of EU.

gprod · Feb 4, 2018

Guys, let's stop talking politics. Or .EU is strongly connected with it?
I just want to know what do you think - to buy and hold .EU or to stay away?
BTW. The EU will stay. Trust me. I'm political scinetist

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

When checking .EU I have seen many really good 1word domains which are available...
And many - which are priced in 3-figure range or at maximum ~1K EUR...
And nothing impressive in such stats...

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

So GDP and .EU are 2 different terms... from different galaxies.

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

And as I already said in another thread: domaining is not so linear as you imagine...

boker · Feb 4, 2018

Jurgen Wolf said:
So GDP and .EU are 2 different terms... from different galaxies.

They are from two different galaxies but there are some connections as well....if EU will decide to become more unified and to be a federal state, than .eu will become one of the biggest tlds( at that's because of the big gdp, europeans have lots of money and they can invest)
Also, regarding the fact that you can find some good one words .eu available doesn't say anything, if .eu it's not good for me and you, that doesn't mean that it's not for everybody. I know a guy who owns 19k .org acronyms and deals only in this niche, but you can still find tons available, that doesn't mean you can make money and also I know a guy who is a broker dealing exclusively with .eu and couple of other european cctlds and he's doing great.

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

I don't know any domainer who got a really interesting profit (overall) investing in .EU
And that's why such prices and so many available/dropped domains...

boker · Feb 4, 2018

Jurgen Wolf said:
I don't know any domainer who got a really interesting profit (overall) investing in .EU
And that's why such prices and so many available/dropped domains...

Probably because most domainers are from US, India and a few other countries, not so many europeans. But still, there are at least 6 who own over 10k .eu domains each and around 100 with over 1000 .eu domains, ask them if they make any money.

jmcc · Feb 4, 2018

So still no link on that 60% usage for .EU?

Regards...jmcc

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

What is average LLL.EU price among these domainers?
This is the best barometer...

boker · Feb 4, 2018

jmcc said:
So still no link on that 60% usage for .EU?

Regards...jmcc

So still no link with the ie. hosted domains?

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

Jurgen Wolf said:
What is average LLL.EU price among these domainers?
This is the best barometer...

2-3 regfee like .info???

boker · Feb 4, 2018

Jurgen Wolf said:
What is average LLL.EU price among these domainers?
This is the best barometer...

I don't know, I own just a few .eu domains, I don't have any lll.eu
But the same goes for others, what's the average of a llll.org acronym? You can get them for free, but that guy who own's over 19k it's selling them for over 10 years and he's doing great.

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

boker said:
what's the average of a llll.org acronym?

LLL.ORG - up to mid $xxx for resellers...
Up to $10K for endusers.

boker · Feb 4, 2018

Jurgen Wolf said:
LLL.ORG - up to mid $xxx for resellers...
Up to $10K for endusers.

I have bought tons for reg fee and you can get them every day, I could not see $xxx for resellers.

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

I'm talking about 3L.org and 3L.EU
Not about 4L.

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

4L has real value only in .com

boker · Feb 4, 2018

Jurgen Wolf said:
I'm talking about 3L.org and 3L.EU
Not about 4L.

Yes, but they have more value as 3L than as acronyms. 80% of his portofolio is 4L ORG, the rest is divided between 3l.org and 5L.org. I'm saying that 3L.anything can't be a prove if an extension has value.

jmcc · Feb 4, 2018

boker said:
So still no link with the ie. hosted domains?

It is obvious that you are just making up things about the Irish market and .IE hosting. as you did about .EU usage. You claimed to know more about the Irish market than anyone here and you don't even own any .IE domain names.

In 2010, a survey of 137,122 responding .IE websites and where they were hosted (by IP address) showed that 68.6% of .IE websites were hosted in Ireland, 12.9% were in the US, 11.5% were in the UK, 1.8% in Germany, 1% in Netherlands, 0.9% in France, 0.5% in Luxembourg, 0.5% in Italy, 0.5% in Romania, 0.4% in Australia.

Regards...jmcc

boker · Feb 4, 2018

jmcc said:
It is obvious that you are just making up things about the Irish market and .IE hosting. as you did about .EU usage. You claimed to know more about the Irish market than anyone here and you don't even own any .IE domain names.

In 2010, a survey of 137,122 responding .IE websites and where they were hosted (by IP address) showed that 68.6% of .IE websites were hosted in Ireland, 12.9% were in the US, 11.5% were in the UK, 1.8% in Germany, 1% in Netherlands, 0.9% in France, 0.5% in Luxembourg, 0.5% in Italy, 0.5% in Romania, 0.4% in Australia.

Regards...jmcc

Yes, we are talking about 2018 and iedr, not one of your statistics again...I think that we know how good are your statistics already.

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

3L value is the best benchmark for any TLD... how it is doing... and all experienced domainers understand that...
Then if you don't know - I can inform you that for .EU it is ~ the same as for .info, plus-minus...

boker · Feb 4, 2018

Jurgen Wolf said:
3L value is the best benchmark for any TLD... how it is doing... and all experienced domainers understand that...
Then if you don't know - I can inform you that for .EU it is ~ the same as for .info, plus-minus...

I don't know that, but let me know what the value of 3L.io? I think that you can get them for reg fee or from closeouts, but that doesn't mean that .io has no value.

jmcc · Feb 4, 2018

boker said:
Yes, we are talking about 2018 and iedr, not one of your statistics again...I think that we know how good are your statistics already.

Those are statistics from an old an IEDR report. Eurid never claimed 60% usage of their domain names. That was just you.

Regards...jmcc

Jurgen Wolf · Feb 4, 2018

Regfee for .IO and regfee for .EU are 2 different galaxies as well.

Regarding .IO overall...
No mass demand in this ccTLD... it is considered only by tech endusers... at least of 95% cases...

boker · Feb 4, 2018

jmcc said:
Those are statistics from an old an IEDR report. Eurid never claimed 60% usage of their domain names. That was just you.

Regards...jmcc

So you are quoting a report from 8 years ago and you want us to believe that nothing changed. You were saying yesterday that in 2017 was around 75%, but you can prove it. I can't find that EURID report because I didn't saved two days ago and I can't find the iedr report talking about 45%, but when I have more time I will look for them.

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