advice Feeling Insulted

Bonsu · Dec 13, 2017

I have never felt this stupid and insulted in my life.
I hand registered a domain 10 November 2017 parked it with bodis.com and decided to watch traffic. The domain is a city.tld (name removed) and after noticing the traffic from America I decided to do outbound 2 weeks ago, contacted end users I feel would benefit from this domain.
In less than an hour one of them replied asking for the price and so I made some enquiries with some np members: @Jurgen Wolf, @jide ofor asking for the best price so I don't call a silly price as I usually do and miss the sale. After consultation I replied the young man with a HIGH $××× bit left room for negotiation. He replied back in less than 10 min that he was thinking of $500 which would have been fine by me. However I didn't want to accept immediately so I told him we'do come down by $200 since it wasn't in his budget and I contacted him but he didn't reply.

Gave him 3 days break and contacted him again that I've not heard from him that if he was still interested we will consider his offer and he should decide which payment plan is fine by him: PayPal, escrow or payoneer escrow... no reply.

I had a feeling he stopped replying possibly because he realised I was contacting him from Nigeria. I even sent a mail telling him I'd transfer the domain to him first if he wants then he pays after he receives it but he'd have to open a name.com account..... no reply... So I stopped felt maybe week days wasn't his thing..

At the weekend again I contacted him asking what his concern was that if he changes his mind I'd list the domain on afternic.com & Godaddy explaining that it is a domain market place.... voila!!! He replied that godaddy is good however his budget is $100 I countered and he agreed to pay $300 asking for how to proceed with godaddy (this is the saddest part: I tried listing it on godaddy and realised the tld .pro wasn't accepted there so I contacted buyer telling him that he should use afternic as it is a godaddy marketplace even given him how to search for the relationship between afternic and godaddy and so he stopped replying...

I was working extra hours at work and decided to give it one last try and if he didn't reply I would strike him off my list and so I contacted him and he replied saying he scared he would get scammed that he'd prefer I call him if I am legit... immediately I picked up my office line and called him introduced myself that it's been me mailing him all this while and he didn't allow me to finish before he asked that what country code was this and I told him Nigeria and he said "no no no f*** off" and ended the call. I called back and he has barred my number. So I sent him a mail that if he felt scammed already he shouldn't have told me to call and I would respect his decision and so I greeted him farewell......

I was so embarrassed... why did he not say from the on set. Why did he say I should call him? So it's a crime course we are Nigeria? I receive many mails from Americans claiming they are forex agents and crypto *** I choose not to reply... I don't insult or treat them badly. I feel highly disappointed at the way an educated guy would act in such an unruly manner......

maya-zir · Dec 15, 2017

because there are too much crime in nigeria.
I know a lot of nigerian in Spain, I work repairing computers so I know a lot of Nigerian.
almost 99% dont even try to speak spanish.
a lot of them have dirty business related with internet.
I remember to find a looong lists of credit cadrs number and pins in there laptops.
I saw too much time nigerian making false ID in internet cafe in public without have any fear.
99% never pay asking price I say from the beggining before to repair their laptops.
I knew nigerian buying from internet and shipping to nigeria with false credit cards.
Remember I check thier laptops, I see too much things there..
I saw nigerians coming in cyber cafe with bag full of false money offering to buy them a half price, they offered it to the owner of cyber cafe.. Too much nigerians sell stolen spartphones, stolen laptops, I know nigerian with 2 and 3 passports with different names but the same photo...
If tomorrow some nigerian will offer me buy something from him I will deny..
I dont need toruble...
The problem is your country... First fix your image, I mean Nigeria must clean its image... ok, this is not depend on you, but this is the sad truth..
99.9% will not have business with nigerian.
sorry

PoliticalVII · Dec 15, 2017

Fake it till you make it, limit any human interaction with sites like afternic and use a name like 'Henry'. Learn from pass failures and keep moving, the world owes you nothing.

I had to learn it the hard way during interviews, three weeks into the job management wondered why i didnt have a british accent like i did during the interview but my performance and value outweighed any further doubts they had.

richface · Dec 15, 2017

Bro, Threats and frequent insults are part of my features of being a domainer . I Never take it to heart the mildest insult I sometimes get is the F off word plus spammer ..I don't have time to get offended I stay focus and relentless in selling my names, cold calls, emails, follow ups, I am ruthless and extremely determined, could care less about insults every man needs to eat and if you let emotions get in the way you are better of getting a teddy bear For cuddles everyday but the Soup bowl ain't gonna fill itself up depends on how hungry you are. I am really Hungry

...think like the Hulk don't get distracted by idiots just bulldoze your way through that BS and head for that Green. all these stories on here about sold a hang reg for xx,xxx just sold a domain for xxx, xxx are like 1 in a million stories for the average domainer everyday is a hassle.

Good Luck buddy.

tldboss · Dec 15, 2017

mayazir said:
because there are too much crime in nigeria.
I know a lot of nigerian in Spain, I work repairing computers so I know a lot of Nigerian.
almost 99% dont even try to speak spanish.
a lot of them have dirty business related with internet.
I remember to find a looong lists of credit cadrs number and pins in there laptops.
I saw too much time nigerian making false ID in internet cafe in public without have any fear.
99% never pay asking price I say from the beggining before to repair their laptops.
I knew nigerian buying from internet and shipping to nigeria with false credit cards.
Remember I check thier laptops, I see too much things there..
I saw nigerians coming in cyber cafe with bag full of false money offering to buy them a half price, they offered it to the owner of cyber cafe.. Too much nigerians sell stolen spartphones, stolen laptops, I know nigerian with 2 and 3 passports with different names but the same photo...
If tomorrow some nigerian will offer me buy something from him I will deny..
I dont need toruble...
The problem is your country... First fix your image, I mean Nigeria must clean its image... ok, this is not depend on you, but this is the sad truth..
99.9% will not have business with nigerian.
sorry

OP Are you feeling much better now, reading inaccurate responses like this? Next time you experience issues like this, discuss with people who understand / can relate, back home or via private messages here (I am sure you know the people to contact).

richface said:
Bro, Threats and frequent insults are part of my features of being a domainer . I Never take it to heart the mildest insult I sometimes get is the F off word plus spammer ..I don't have time to get offended I stay focus and relentless in selling my names, cold calls, emails, follow ups, I am ruthless and extremely determined, could care less about insults every man needs to eat and if you let emotions get in the way you are better of getting a teddy bear For cuddles everyday but the Soup bowl ain't gonna fill itself up depends on how hungry you are. I am really Hungry ...think like the Hulk don't get distracted by idiots just bulldoze your way through that BS and head for that Green. all these stories on here about sold a hang reg for xx,xxx just sold a domain for xxx, xxx are like 1 in a million stories for the average domainer everyday is a hassle.

Good Luck buddy.

This is reality. Keep pushing. Good luck!!

maya-zir · Dec 15, 2017

@tldboss
So you preffer lie to him telling that was just weird buyer?
I just told exactly what all think but never say.
Personally I will not buy nothing from somebody from Nigeria, because I dont want to risk.
It is good to know the reason, so he can do something, I dont know what, but I dont like to lie.

maya-zir · Dec 16, 2017

I think the best solution is create a company name, create a website and use the corporative email for Paypal.
I mean not use own name, but company name.
Or use escrow.
There is no another solution.
"Nigeria" doesnt sound trustfully for business.

Amzymayor · Dec 16, 2017

Sorry about your story bro. You can't blame the buyer either. This is the bad situation we find ourselves. Paypal has refused us the opportunity to receive money, the rate of cyber crime is increasing every day, and the reputation of my dear country NIGERIA is deteriorating every day.

Just move on bro. And like what happened to you and Jide ofor, I think the best thing is to have an American friend here that can help us close deals.

I've sent countless of mails myself with no response from the target audience. I am suspecting it's because of this country issue.

Anyway, all the best to you bro

marfol · Dec 16, 2017

@pokainc @Jv1999
He didn't reduce the price to $200 but by $200. He said he sent the buyer High $xxx but he wanted to pay $500 so, he reduced the initial price by $200 which probably still makes his price higher than the buyer's $500.

Iam_leun · Dec 16, 2017

Sorry about your ordeal... Finger burnt but lesson learnt....
Just fake it till you make it.
Point should be you remain honest in your dealings.

#Naija needs thorough cleansing.

ValleyRock · Dec 16, 2017

If girl can't dance, she says the band can't play.

He had doubts long before you told him your country of residence.

You only confirmed his fears after you told him.

Work on your reputation on the internet. What do I find when I google your name or company.
People always forget this part.

SheikhOvais · Dec 17, 2017

jideofor said:
I have been trying to get myself a US phone number after my recent experience which almost failed EXCEPT @xynames had to save it for me. I see why I lost over $4000 worth of domain sales this year and I don't want that next year, though I may likely do little domaining next year as I am aggressively pushing for a new business initiative and model that will pay me more than domains.

Google voice only works for US residents... any alternatives will be appreciated anyone have a good suggestion on how to resolve this US phone number and Address? Please help.

Sad to hear about it but don't take it personally. Remember, better plans ahead.

For the US number, have you tried Twilio? It's paid but pretty cheap.

DomainGist · Dec 18, 2017

I wouldn't buy anything from a Nigerian over the phone either. Sorry but Nigeria is the most famous country in the world for its scammers, and their number 1 target is Americans and the British.

Best stick to established marketplaces, direct buyers to sedo, afternic or similar.

frank-germany · Dec 18, 2017

jideofor said:
I have been trying to get myself a US phone number after my recent experience which almost failed EXCEPT @xynames had to save it for me. I see why I lost over $4000 worth of domain sales this year and I don't want that next year, though I may likely do little domaining next year as I am aggressively pushing for a new business initiative and model that will pay me more than domains.

Google voice only works for US residents... any alternatives will be appreciated anyone have a good suggestion on how to resolve this US phone number and Address? Please help.

try kall8.com

frank-germany · Dec 18, 2017

Bonsu said:
I'd never use a us line or address as I feel it's dishonest...Imo.... I'd just list names and better still direct them to a market place

get a TOLL FREE number at kall8.com
and tell him to call you for free
whenever he has time to talk

frank-germany · Dec 18, 2017

GeorgeQuang said:
Another choice for you : Using Uniregistry Landing Page plus Sales services. All offers will be replied by Uniregistry's sales team. But you must pay them 5-10% fees. But honestly, i will do it myself.

no sorry Georg
thats bad advice

maya-zir · Dec 18, 2017

@frank-germany
the problem is not american phone number.
I am sure he has a specific accent.
the problem is the country and you cant change here nothing.
the only one solution is work with somebody or build a decent website to avoid potencial buyer think about scam.
people preffer mail and not phone call, if somebody asks to call it is the sign he doesnt trust you.
if the website will be trustful nobody will ask to call.

Bonsu · Dec 18, 2017

I'm sitting back to review my strategy nd then try a new method. In respect to having a website I just gave 30 names or more... do you think it's enough for a website? Opinion please

frank-germany · Dec 18, 2017

mayazir said:
@frank-germany
the problem is not american phone number.
I am sure he has a specific accent.
the problem is the country and you cant change here nothing.
the only one solution is work with somebody or build a decent website to avoid potencial buyer think about scam.
people preffer mail and not phone call, if somebody asks to call it is the sign he doesnt trust you.
if the website will be trustful nobody will ask to call.

I bet a lot of people within USA have the same accent

frank-germany · Dec 18, 2017

Bonsu said:
I'm sitting back to review my strategy nd then try a new method. In respect to having a website I just gave 30 names or more... do you think it's enough for a website? Opinion please

use epik
you won't have to deal with anybody
they sell
you collect the money

Bonsu · Dec 18, 2017

maya-zir · Dec 18, 2017

frank-germany said:
I bet a lot of people within USA have the same accent

It is impossible not to recognize african, indian, chinese and russian accents

maya-zir · Dec 18, 2017

Bonsu said:
I'm sitting back to review my strategy nd then try a new method. In respect to having a website I just gave 30 names or more... do you think it's enough for a website? Opinion please

It is enough

Bonsu · Dec 18, 2017

mayazir said:
It is enough

It'd be my project for my domain business model next year

maya-zir · Dec 18, 2017

Bonsu said:
It'd be my project for my domain business model next year

make something simple, but use CORPORATIVE look.
search any wp theme, beter premium one, but with CORPORATIVE look

frank-germany · Dec 19, 2017

2. The Always Suspicious
The suspicious person is controlled by fear on some level which makes the establishment of rapport difficult.

How To Win Them:
A Paraphrase and Calibrated Questions may be in order. By using these techniques in this fashion, you are identifying the trust issues and refocusing them on the underlying cause of their suspicion.

“You seem to be having a problem trusting me and my company. What can I do to allay some of your concerns?”

http://blog.blackswanltd.com/the-ed...over?utm_campaign=4 Types of Difficult People

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