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I have a few 5L domains in mind that I'm thinking of purchasing. Some are in the category VCVCV, others CVCVC and one is CVVCV (pronounceable and brandable in my opinion). Should I go for it? Do you think the market for this category will be better or worse in 2018? Do you have reported sales or get offers for your domains?

Thanks in advance,
Merakilous
 
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We bought recently Wkii.com ( obviously a play on Wiki.com with over 1 billion results ) and we paid no more than we would for a quality 5L.com We'd rather have Wkii.com We think it could be a great name for a future cryptocurrency or whatever in other words more chance to sell it for a large sum of money. One 5L.com we recently missed was Bingzo.com which we thought was a great 5L.

Bingzo is a 6L. :)
 
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No doubt, pronounciable 5L.com would be the next big thing in a couple of years. Shortnames.com report proper sales of these items. A meaningful keyword in the 5L serves as the icing on the cake.
My few 5L.com purchases that I would like to hold for now: botxy, enrzy, enrzi, enrjy

6L names are selling just as well, better average price than 5L.
 
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Just done a quick availability check on 5Ls to see which letters are most popular

1st: all 26 letters so it's not exactly CVCVC
2nd: all 5 vowels
3rd: all 21 consonants
4th: only a and i
5th: only s

This gets to 5460 combinations. Then I checked availability for the first 3000 on GoDaddy, in batches of 500, out of 3k about 240 were available for hand reg.

2nd vowel. Doesn't seem like it's that important. Pretty normally distributed, i slightly more popular than u.
u 67
o 46
a 44
e 42
i 41

3rd letter. This is more interesting. See results below.
q 72
y 34
j 25
z 23
h 20
x 18
w 12
f 10
k 8
c 5
b 4
p 3
l 2
v 2
m 1
r 1
d 0
g 0
n 0
s 0
t 0

You should read in reverse order, if many letters are available for hand reg, then it means the letter is not that popular. Q is clearly the least popular. 3rd letter Also - no domains for hand reg are available with d, g, n, s, or t in the middle.

Of course this is assuming 5th letter s, and 4th letters a or i. Otherwise there would be too many results to test. But it's still an indication.
 
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Just done a quick availability check on 5Ls to see which letters are most popular

1st: all 26 letters so it's not exactly CVCVC
2nd: all 5 vowels
3rd: all 21 consonants
4th: only a and i
5th: only s

This gets to 5460 combinations. Then I checked availability for the first 3000 on GoDaddy, in batches of 500, out of 3k about 240 were available for hand reg.

2nd vowel. Doesn't seem like it's that important. Pretty normally distributed, i slightly more popular than u.
u 67
o 46
a 44
e 42
i 41

3rd letter. This is more interesting. See results below.
q 72
y 34
j 25
z 23
h 20
x 18
w 12
f 10
k 8
c 5
b 4
p 3
l 2
v 2
m 1
r 1
d 0
g 0
n 0
s 0
t 0

You should read in reverse order, if many letters are available for hand reg, then it means the letter is not that popular. Q is clearly the least popular. 3rd letter Also - no domains for hand reg are available with d, g, n, s, or t in the middle.

Of course this is assuming 5th letter s, and 4th letters a or i. Otherwise there would be too many results to test. But it's still an indication.

I don't know, which sales platform you grabbed out the figures from, but while researching using shortnames.com, the past sales does not show any consistency with your results for the 4th and 5th letters.
I would agree with you about Q.
 
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I didn't look at sales figures. Only looked at .com availability for hand-reg. Only 5L domains ending with "as", or "is". So just that. With different endings, eg. "er", or "ly" other middle letters can be more popular. I am sure there is a lot geographic variability too.

I will post an update later with more complete results, once I have time to run the rest of the names through GoDaddy.
 
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We bought recently Wkii.com ( obviously a play on Wiki.com with over 1 billion results ) and we paid no more than we would for a quality 5L.com We'd rather have Wkii.com We think it could be a great name for a future cryptocurrency or whatever in other words more chance to sell it for a large sum of money. One 5L.com we recently missed was Bingzo.com which we thought was a great 5L.

to me bingzo.com is a mediocre 6L.com
 
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I have PAGOG.com
Think it's a pretty good one!
 
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I think there are a few good rules of thumb for 5L that will allow you to buy the better ones:
  • Stick to 2 syllables or less when possible
  • Try to spend under $50/name (its a numbers game with 1-2% sell rate)
  • Think about whether you personally would start a company with that

I don't have many 5L, but I do have a few I think fit most of this criteria:

Kubsy//com
Zeery//com
Spraq//com
Zipno//com
Ovixa//com
Vuzos//com
Ejeqt//com
Kluda//com
 
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Registered few 5Ls today as well

Bumol<>com
Pumul<>com
Gujis<>com
Fulel<>com
Lysox<>com
 
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I think there are a few good rules of thumb for 5L that will allow you to buy the better ones:
  • Stick to 2 syllables or less when possible
  • Try to spend under $50/name (its a numbers game with 1-2% sell rate)
  • Think about whether you personally would start a company with that

I don't have many 5L, but I do have a few I think fit most of this criteria:

Kubsy//com
Zeery//com
Spraq//com
Zipno//com
Ovixa//com
Vuzos//com
Ejeqt//com
Kluda//com
Do you get offers for them?
 
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Hand reg'd Blaez.com just a few weeks ago, so they're out there still.
 
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I have 2 5L domains which are extremely easy to pronounce and brandable too but I didn't find any cool clients for it yet :(
 
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I have 2 5L domains which are extremely easy to pronounce and brandable too but I didn't find any cool clients for it yet :(

Not all pronounceable and brandable 5 letter domains have buyers unfortunately, it's a mix between knowing what you're doing and luck but you've got to stay positive :xf.smile: Can you share the names? If you can't it's ok
 
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Not all pronounceable and brandable 5 letter domains have buyers unfortunately, it's a mix between knowing what you're doing and luck but you've got to stay positive :xf.smile: Can you share the names? If you can't it's ok

Azaab.Com (Arabic/Urdu word with lots of global searches - sort of common every household term - could be easily sold to any Gulf living end user if found easily :P )

Laavy.Com (could be well-suited for a fashion brand or beauty products or baby products) (example - LAVIE being an international ladies handbag brand)
 
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One of the best luxury brands in the world is a cvccv with the last letter being an I

By rights most would not have bought its domain in. Com for reg fee back in the day but are more than happy to wear its luxury brand today

A brand is what it's owner makes of it
 
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I tend to look at any unregistered domain with suspicion. How come it's still available if it's any good ?
I tend to think available names are "lottery" domains, especially when you are talking brandables
 
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Kate make a good point, as always. Watching 5 / 6 letter selling for 2k+, reg-fee domains look like a good deal so a plan and caution are important.

I picked Uneqld for reg-fee.
Would not do well in the radio test, confusion is something to avoid imo, good luck
 
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Would not do well in the radio test, confusion is something to avoid imo, good luck

Thanks. That goes for about half 5-6 letter names that sold over 1k on Godaddy this month ;)
 
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Yes but we are not in 1996, we are in 2017 and 130 million domains are registered in .com alone. The .com zone has been mined to the death by thousands of speculators over the course of two decades. If you find a name that nobody claimed for $10, ask yourself how you are going to resell it for more. It could happen. Maybe it is just a question of timing, being at the right place at the right time.
Of course, there are exceptions like recent drops, but a good name shouldn't remain unregistered for years.
The yet unknown domain names we are talking about must have been scanned hundreds of times, yet discarded by domainers. Maybe there is a reason. Just saying.
Now the names may be pronounceable and fairly brandable, but that still doesn't mean there is a buyer. Millions of decent names are waiting for a buyer that will never come, such is the reality of our trade.

In general I agree entirely with the view expressed by @Kate. With so many domain investors searching, it is unlikely one will find an unregistered .com with high value.

However, as she says, there are exceptions. I think that among these exceptions are changes in what is popular and valued in society (new technology, but not only that). Also harder to define changes in what is considered 'in' in terms of business naming. Recently a lot of interest in names ending in 'io' and 'ly', either with the io extension or not, and a bit further back names ending in 'co' and 'al' were popular (and continue to be).

Thanks @Kate for sensible and eloquently expressed advice (as always!)
 
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