auctions SATI.COM last sold for $100,000 on 2017-03-29 and now $x,xxx in auction

jamaltq said:

I have sent an email to sati.com website informing them that their domain sold at Sedo.
And if they know about that.

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The site looks like a placeholder and I can't find anything convincing enough that Sati is an actual drink product.

Axel Inverted said:

The site looks like a placeholder and I can't find anything convincing enough that Sati is an actual drink product.

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how about this:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:ggnviy.2.27

.asia, .it, .me, .se, .su, .yoga, .pics,

Makis.TV said:

how about this:
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4803:ggnviy.2.27

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Error link?

Lianne van Hoorn is a regional manager / broker at Sedo in Germany.

xynames said:

Four letter domain sales are picking up actually. Even the crappy ones are selling around $1000.

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Off topic a bit, but is this a joke?

It’s happening look at namebio over past week. I’m getting offers on my better four letters all week too but I’m not selling so cheap.

forge said:

Off topic a bit, but is this a joke?

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Must be cuz they ain't selling for that around here

that's easy.... too easy.. Assuming it did actually sell at 100k then was resold at much less. 100k end user rate. 4-10k investor rate. Perhaps an end user purchased and then decided the name was no longer needed. Sold back and got an investor rate.

WHOIS shows the domain was owned by John Fanning of DotCom Capital LLC using a @netcapital.com email address on March 7th, 2017 (eNom). The earliest WHOIS I have for Sati.com is from November 2nd, 2015, and Mr. Fanning is the registrant.



NameBio.com reported the $100,000 sedo sale on March 29th, 2017.

It looks like there was a WHOIS update on April 18th, 2017. (I'm not sure if this was the earliest WHOIS change, or if there was one in between March 7th, 2017 and April 18th, 2017). WHOIS is private. (Paragon Internet Group)

promo said:

Is that domainshane?

When I google "sati.com sedo" .. I get the following link from google directly to sedo:

https://sedo.com/search/details/?ai..._cid=16&et_lid=246422&et_sub=domainshaneoffer

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Sati.com was mentioned on DSAD.com in the November 8th auction recap. HERE (that might explain why google indexed the sub=domainshaneoffer link.

Sati.com is also currently the "Domain of the Day" on DSAD.com. I don't read this blog very often, so I'm not familiar with the domain of the day process, or how they are selected. tagging @Domain Shane

LOLA.com also sold for $550,000 before 7 months.

jamaltq said:

LOLA.com also sold for $550,000 before 7 months.

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Is the for sale now?

Grilled said:

Is the for sale now?

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No

I'll let you regular namepros guys do all the investigating but sati as a workable (I accept 'Class' specific trademarked) dot com sounds a decent purchase at $10k - Let me know what I missed for a new (unrelated) user/business to be able to work with it as a non-infringing entity

Grilled said:

WHOIS shows the domain was owned by John Fanning of DotCom Capital LLC using a @netcapital.com email address on March 7th, 2017 (eNom). The earliest WHOIS I have for Sati.com is from November 2nd, 2015, and Mr. Fanning is the registrant.


Sati.com was mentioned on DSAD.com in the November 8th auction recap. HERE (that might explain why google indexed the sub=domainshaneoffer link.

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Sati.com is also currently the "Domain of the Day" on DSAD.com. I don't read this blog very often, so I'm not familiar with the domain of the day process, or how they are selected. tagging @Domain Shane

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Sorry, nothing to report here. We are paid by Sedo to showcase names that they have for auction. Sati.com was one of them.
Grilled, you should spend 3 minutes reading the list. You never know, there might be something on there you didn't see on a scan. We also post the results of the names we listed the next day so you can see exactly what they sold for. Like me or not it does give you a good idea of what is selling at auction and for how much

xynames said:

Four letter domain sales are picking up actually. Even the crappy ones are selling around $1000.

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Just some examples from past few days at namebio:

zxdj.com

$1,090

NameJet

fksg.com

$945

NameJet

jgrt.com

$933

NameJet

kxmr.com

$936

NameJet

rpmr.com

$935

NameJet

mzch.com

$946

NameJet

dbzt.com

$944

NameJet

tqfs.com

$932

NameJet

hookbox said:

Lianne van Hoorn is a regional manager / broker at Sedo in Germany.

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Someone needs to make an explanation!

this is sick and I am not convinced about the previous sales report of 100K!

Seriously who does that?

xynames said:

Just some examples from past few days at namebio:

zxdj.com

$1,090

NameJet

fksg.com

$945

NameJet

jgrt.com

$933

NameJet

kxmr.com

$936

NameJet

rpmr.com

$935

NameJet

mzch.com

$946

NameJet

dbzt.com

$944

NameJet

tqfs.com

$932

NameJet

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Uhm you do know all of your examples are CHIPs that have a floor 5x of non chip 4l.COMS?

promo, if you'd like to sell your names at namepros, be my guest.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/is...o-get-a-good-name.1045200/page-3#post-6399026

xynames said:

promo, if you'd like to sell your names at namepros, be my guest.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/is...o-get-a-good-name.1045200/page-3#post-6399026

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I have no idea what you are saying. But CHIP domains have sold for 5x bottom 4l.COMS for 2 years now. Nothing to do with Namepros.

So the examples you posted are in line with prices from last 12 months. 24 months ago they would all have sold around 2500 per..

It's okay, no one gets anywhere discussing anything with you, as you already have the answers.

So tell me; do you understand why your examples are not indicative of a rise in prices or you missed the CHIP phenomenon?

As we discussed privately, and I may be mistaken, I thought some of those letters weren’t premium. Like r p f ? Thanks.

on 2017-03-27:


Domain Name: SATI.COM
Registry Domain ID: 95625205_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.enom.com
Registrar URL: www.enom.com
Updated Date: 2017-03-22T16:09:29.00Z
Creation Date: 2003-03-09T19:17:00.00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-03-09T18:17:00.00Z
Registrar: ENOM, INC.
Registrar IANA ID: 48
Domain Status: ok https://www.icann.org/epp#ok
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: TRANSFER SERVICE
Registrant Organization: SEDO
Registrant Street: 161 FIRST ST 4 FLOOR
Registrant City: CAMBRIDGE
Registrant State/Province: MA
Registrant Postal Code: 02142
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.6174997200
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.6174997200
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: [email protected]
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: TRANSFER SERVICE
Admin Organization: SEDO
Admin Street: 161 FIRST ST 4 FLOOR
Admin City: CAMBRIDGE
Admin State/Province: MA
Admin Postal Code: 02142
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.6174997200
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax: +1.6174997200
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: [email protected]
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: TRANSFER SERVICE
Tech Organization: SEDO
Tech Street: 161 FIRST ST 4 FLOOR
Tech City: CAMBRIDGE
Tech State/Province: MA
Tech Postal Code: 02142
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.6174997200
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax: +1.6174997200
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: [email protected]
Name Server: DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server: DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM
DNSSEC: unSigned
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4252982646
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.internic.net/
>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2017-03-22T16:09:29.00Z <<<

xynames said:

As we discussed privately, and I may be mistaken, I thought some of those letters weren’t premium. Like r p f ? Thanks.

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quick recap of the last 15 years or so:

1) the short domain sector, like all human endeavors, is prone to segmentation and rationalization. some arguments are true but others are just people trying to get sense out of things and then an idea gets mainstream and becomes a fact.

2) there is actually a pattern of good and bad letters, and even for their position on a short domain name, confirmed thru analyses of what domains sold and/or got developed by end-users. this analyses shows that a subset of the 25 Latin letters is more prone to be used by an end-user simply because most businesses target the English language and more businesses belong to highly developed nations with strong purchasing power like USA, UK, Germany, France, etc, and so there are letters that start more common words in this(ese) language(s). this subset was named "premium (western) letters" and consists of letters abcdefgilmnoprst, where letters jku and maybe vw are usually considered semi-premium and qxyz are consider bad letters (because not many businesses have names started with these letters or usually the ones that pay more use names with premium letters)

3) fast forward to end of 2013 and then a pattern started to arise where what used to be called bad letters started to got picked by Chinese. the rationale behind this is, contrary in some way to what is the pattern in the "western" world and languages, with Chinese/Mandarin there are lots of words that start with the bad letters qxyz. given that China has a lot of people and growing purchase power and that many chinese domainers entered the market at this time, this idea got pervasive until it reached a mania status in 2015 where the letters bcdfghjklmnpqrstxyz were considered premium to Chinese and coined by one namepros member as CHIPS (chinese premiums). this turned the market upside down and what was until then considered inferior quality letters and domains started to attract more money than the proven track record of the western premium letters. this even spread to numeric domains.

4) after the peak in Nov/Dec 2015 the all short domain segment got crushed in the following 2 years, and has actually hit new lows in the last month.

so when you see domains being sold for $1k or close they are not that really high, considering where they were 2 years ago. actually the market has sank +50%. strangely, the numeric sub-sector, that has even less developed sites, has been hit less, go figure.